I'm going to do a thought experiment Veeky Forums,
I'm trying to write about the dangers of orthodox Marxism, but I feel like I'm talking in circles because my own knowledge seems to have been stunted. This is where I came up with a new idea, I'm going to spend 1 week up to a month reading nothing but Marxist literature, even pretending to be one, looking at life through the eyes of a Marxist.
What books should I read to get in the proper mindset, I have Communist Manifesto, Conquest of Bread, and Das Kapital so far.
>starting with a preconceived notion and working to reaffirm it
Good start user
Jacob Richardson
No that's my point, I'm going to approach it by becoming a Marxist, that's why I'm doing it.
Gavin Wood
>No that's my point
huh
Easton Turner
I am going to pretend to be a Marxist for about a month, I'm going to try not to aproach it from a preconceived notion like you said.
Any tips?
Levi Stewart
>I'm trying to write about the dangers of orthodox Marxism. So, no preconceptions right?
Tyler Parker
>Conquest of Bread
That's an anarchist book. Anarchism and Marxism are profoundly different, especially when it comes to their "mindset" and underlying philosophy.
Also "orthodox Marxism" is a really vague term. What is usually referred to as orthodox Marxism (Kautsky and co) is actually a vulgarised, determinist interpretation of Marxism as Lenin and many others pointed out.
Is there anything sadder than basing your whole pursuit of knowledge around wanting to disprove some theory which tickled you wrongly. >as Lenin it's shit
Tyler White
Most current Marxists don't even read much Marx. They read current literature. If you want to be a Marxist in the contemporary sense, then read Laclau, Eagleton etc.
But the problem is, you won't be able to work through them in a week. You still won't have a clue. You'd have at least some familiarity with the theories they base their work on and refer to.
And if you really wanted to act like a Marxist, you'll just be reading, working at a university, and that's about it.
You can't have enough experience and knowledge to adequately critique most schools of thought that have as deep of a well and as long of a history as Marxism within a week.
Daniel Hall
Sorry, just realised you said orthodox Marxists.
Anyway, orthodox Marxism doesn't really exist anymore. What's the point of critiquing it. It was a school of thought that critiqued the economic structures of its time period. But those dynamic don't exist anymore and just about everyone knows it. Marxism has move on.
Benjamin Flores
The three component parts of Marxism are Scientific-Socialism, (a political ideology, that started as an offshoot, of what Engles &co. called "Utopian Socialism", [basically Anarchism]), Marxian-Economics, (a school of Economics, that shot off from "Classical Economics"), and Dialectical-Materialism, (A school of Philosophy that started as an offshoot of Dialectical-Idealism, which in turn spun-off from Transcendental-Idealism), so I will be sorting my stuff into those categories.
For Economics: Grundrisse Kapital Vol. 1 Kapital Vol. 2 Kapital Vol. 3 Theories of Surplus Value
For Philosophy: Contribution to the Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right The German Ideology Anti-Duhring The Dialectics of Nature
For Politics: The Communist Manifesto Critique of the Gotha Programme. Socialism: Utopian, and Scientific The Conflict between Marx, and Bakunin.
You should also at some point read, "Origins of the Family, Private Property, and the State", it's an anthropological work that doesn't really fit cleanly into any of these categories, but that is essentially required reading nonetheless.
If you want to get versed in the three sources of Marxist theory, before reading Marx himself, then I would reccommend:
For Classical Economics: The Wealth of Nations - Adam Smith Principles of Economics - Ricardo Principles of Economics - Althusser
For "Utopian" Socialism Conquest of Bread - Proudhon (as pointed out) What is Property - Proudhon On Anarchism - Bakunin God and the State - Bakunin
For Transcendental, and Dialectical Idealism Prolegomena to any Future Metaphysics - Kant Lecture Notes on Logic - Kant Critique of Pure Reason - Kant Metaphysics of Morals - Kant Critique of Practical Reason - Kant Encyclopedia of Philosophy - Hegel Phenomenology of Spirity - Hegel The Science of Logic - Hegel Philosophy of Right - Hegel Philosophy of History - Hegel
Leo Butler
Thanks user, I'll start with the philosophy
Caleb Thomas
can communism work without everyone switching to it?
Jaxson Long
you mean countries or people?
Zachary Powell
people
Isaiah Taylor
Actually read Das Capital and realize Marx was right about a lot of things and didn't claim half the things that uneducated detractors peg him with.
Justin Collins
give us some examples
Liam Campbell
Grab a copy of the marx-engels reader Great selection in there
Ethan Morgan
ignore all the other blue pilled cucks
the only book on marxism you need is by Thomas Sowell
Daniel Kelly
His thinking wouldn't have supported 20th century communist regimes but it has accurately predicted the irreversible development of welfare states.
Jace Gomez
The only writer who does justice to Marx is Marx
Caleb Cooper
>Engles.
Noah Cooper
Ah, the B&S girlbot. Not Engels too? Althusser: For Marx.
Brody Turner
was a faggot
Samuel Parker
Who is this semen demon?
Charles Long
your grandmother
Easton Green
Lady Godiva. It applies to post, obviously.
Thomas Allen
>by becoming a Marxist You can't "become a marxist for a week". It's not a lifestyle or something.
If you're interested in Marxism just read Marx. This will take longer than a week.
Austin Torres
>..and Das Kapital so far Rich!
Daniel Ross
>doesn't know anything about Marxism >has already decided Marxism is dangerous
