How do I into Nietzsche?
Seems like there's a lot of misconceptions surrounding this guy even within the communities of people who really enjoy his works.
Is there any particular piece of his I should begin reading first? Just curious what you guys think.
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On the Genealogy of Morality
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Get the Basic Writings of Nietzsche translated by Walter Kaufmann. It's in there and you also get a few of his other major books. Another good book to get is The Portable Nietzsche translated by the same guy.
start with Beyond Good and Evil
it was written specifically as an introductory to his philosophy
Beyond Good and Evil is also in the Basic Writings book. If you get the Portable Nietzsche and the Basic Writings you will have the great bulk of his work.
Beyond Good and Evil would be a good place to start too. Maybe it would be cool to start with Beyond Good and Evil and make your way in order to Ecce Homo/Nietzsche contra Wagner. Then after you finish his later philosophy, start from The Birth of Tragedy and work your way to Zarathustra.
Interesting strategy. What's your thinking behind this? I read his stuff chronologically so I'm curious. You seem to outline the normal trajectory of people interested in Nietzsche (get into his middle and late stuff and only after that explore the early stuff).
Just think the later stuff is more interesting, especially if he's new to you. And I like the idea of saving Zarathustra to the very end. Also, some of the middle works are more expensive to buy and it's easier to get the two volumes I mentioned, which cover all of the late stuff.
are you a certain british lad?
Solid reasoning. You're right about the middle works. Kaufmann has really sparse selections from them. Hollingdale has really good translations of them with the Cambridge UP but they're pretty expensive.
Have you read The Will to Power? I'm conflicted in recommending it and I always have to give "the talk" about its origin, but there's some great stuff in there. Maybe like the early/middle work that can be recommended if someone wants more after reading the late stuff.
Yeah, I've read almost everything but it's been a couple of years, some books several times, except the very end of Human, All Too Human because I forgot to bring my book inside and it got rained on. Thinking about rereading all of his works in order from the beginning. Might even learn German.
>it got rained on
you are!
Another cool place to start might be Philosophy in the Tragic Age of the Greeks.
This is supplemented really well by the volume Philosophy and Truth (admittedly a collection of unpublished notes), but I don't know if I would recommend either of them to someone without exposure to Nietzsche's later stuff OR the Greeks
>Attention seeking faggot.
Even with those slave genes, you're not fooling anyone with that fedora and indoor sunglasses.
Another thing Nietzsche recommends to understand his philosophy is to read all of the prefaces in order. Most of them were written really late and added on later.
like, just the prefaces?
After reading the main texts, obviously. The prefaces frame and clarify the project.
Start with Untimely Meditations
read Ecce Homo after reading the main texts
it's a fucking riot
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Start with Twilight of the Idols, then BG&E. Nietzsche really is one of those philosophers where you should have read some of the philosophers he is referencing prior to starting him though (e.g. Plato). I know everyone wants to hop right into him b/c *le edgy nihilist* misconception, but you're not really doing yourself any favors by taking this approach.
Agree
Weird, but after all I only read the second one. Is the first one interesting ? It's the one about David Strauss, right - who's this guy ? And what about the 3rd and 4th meditations ?
Also agree, however the Twilight of Idols is more something where OP could read 5-6 pages whenever he wants, without necessarily read the whole as a complete essay (contrary to Beyond good and evil).
He constantly references his earlier work and expects you to fucking know it so just read them in the order of publication
>How do I into Nietzsche?
Understand that his own opinions changed and evolved as he wrote. That's the source of half the confusion. That and his opportunist whore sister.
Seriously, not a single person said start with Aristotle? are you all fucking retarded?
you can find pdfs of both online, just Google them
This, but also Spinoza, which is, apart from Schopenhauer, Nietzsche's biggest inspiration.
Buy any book you choose. Proceed to shit inside of it. Close said book.
Don't use, so many, commas
Go to maddox.xmission.com
You're finished Nietzsche. Flush Nietzsche.
Uh I mean "pirate" with "Ubermensch".
Could a kind user share that Nietzsche mspaint comic about:
I AM THE WARRIOR OF MY DAYDREAMS!
THAT HURTS MY FEELINGS!
etc.?
faggot ass cowboy.
The Will to Power
It's my favorite.
>inb4 'it is incomplete and just notes'
Which of Aristotle's works are most essential as prep for Nietzsche?
Just like Nietzsche himself recommended: read a philosopher from his earlier works to his latest ones. Watch the philosopher change.
You know, it's not that there are "misconceptions" about this work, I don't think that's a good way of thinking about this. It's more to the fact that people interpret him through various ways. Even those who know a fuck ton about Nietzsche disagree about Nietzsche. Who's to say who is right and who is misconceiving him?
You should have read at least 4 of Aristotles major works before embarking on philosophy.
Definitely bullshit, you don't need Aristotle in order to Nietzsche. Nietzsche himself doesn't care much about Aristotle.