SS

Not bad. It's a good intro but I feel it is way too light on volume. I switched to Stronglifts pretty quick. Pretty similar but stronglifts is free and you can get a free app which is actually pretty good. Makes graphs and shit of your progress like a workout diary but in an app which makes it easy. Get strong pretty quick

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Not sure if bait.

fuck off Veeky Forums none of you probably read it.
The book is genius,its explanation of correct body mechanics while pushing or pulling a weight correctly is of extreme importance for athletes and those wanting to.. dare I say it.. start gaining strength.

>More volume.
ie. 1st lift is 5x5
everything else on that day 3-4 x 8-12
>Hamstring curl, bicep curl, tricep extension/dips.
for joint health, injury prevention and BIG fucking GUNS.

The basic logic and principles introduced in the book are pretty good, especially for a generic specimen that is training without aims.

A recommended reading for anyone that wants to get into barbell training.

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> low-bar back squat

for what purpose?

For the purpose if you can't fit to ATG for reasons.

>tfw to intelligent too ape around lifting metal with brainlets

>too stumpid to find beauty in simplicity.
congratz, nature laughs at you fucking retard.

Is there a book about smolov?

>to smart too not be able to deconstruct everything I see

Most documents about Smolov's system are articles/interviews/scrapped from the Internet's discussion forum PDF files.

a compendium of misc shitposting
just follow a smolov like plan

This is what you will look like if you do SS.

Roastable to a degree but I'd hire him to lift boxes or some shit.

That's if you do the meme SS, not if you do SS properly.
But no one reads the fucking book, they just take a random SS variation from the web and do gomad for some stupid reason.

>plebeian
going to a loud, smelly gym, putting heavy things up and down for hours on end like a sperg, consuming nutrition supplements

>patrician
becoming an Olympian-level gymnast, learning aesthetic feats of control and elasticity, living off prana

holy shit

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This is bullshit, because SS has more arm work than lower body work.

>SS has more arm work than lower body work
You gotta be baiting.

>That's if you do the meme SS, not if you do SS properly.
That guy (Zach Evetts) LITERALLY trained with Rippletoe in person. What do you mean he did the meme version of SS?

>lower/week: 9 sets of squats + 1.5 sets of deadlifts
>upper/week: 9 sets of pushing + 4.5 sets of P. rows (if substituted for p.cleans)
>recommended accessories/week: 4.5 sets of dips + 4.5 sets of chins
>total: 10.5 sets lower, 22.5 sets of upper per week
The squat volume is in fact comparatively low. And if you claim chins, dips, and compound don't train arms adequately, you're simply ignorant and/or have fallen for a splitfag meme.

Here's Rippletoe's official program:
startingstrength.com/get-started/programs

Please point out where he recommends chins or dips as accessories. You don't add in chins until Phase 3 which can take months to get to. If you substitute power cleans for rows, "You're not doing the program".

If you're trying to claim that OHP and flat bench alone will evenly develop your front, side, and rear delts and not leave you with dangerous muscular imbalances, you're a fool. If you think your triceps and biceps will develop without any isolation and by doing chinups once or twice a week, then you're a fool.

Don't get me wrong, SS is great if you want to get really strong (and really fat) in a short amount of time. But the majority of people who start working out want to get healthier and look better, neither of which SS will do (no, gaining 2-3 pounds a week and wrecking your joints/back with heavy compounds will not make you healthier).

>But no one reads the fucking book, they just take a random SS variation from the web and do gomad for some stupid reason
yeah and we all know what they fucking look like right

I have big legs and skinny arms now

REKT

what are some weight lifting programs to start out with that actually make you healthier and look better then? Or is it still better to start out with starting strength?

Something like a push/pull with cardio alternating between HIIT and low intensity.

Pick up a martial art as well (something like Boxing, BJJ, or Muay Thai) to actually learn how to use your body to do things.

Diet and sleep are way more important than exercise for general health, though.

once you get bored of stronglifts get the app Strong and u can make whatever routines you want. it's p much exactly the same otherwise

>You don't add in chins until Phase 3 which can take months to get to
>If you substitute power cleans for rows, "You're not doing the program"
This is irrelevant, provided you don't blame poor progress on the original program. There's no magic program for beginner strength needs, and thus the fact remains people make good progress on modified SS routines, many times under the impression they're running textbook SS. Power cleans, for example, cannot be done in many commercial gyms, nor are easy to perform for the uncoordinated and untrained, so you see many recommend simply replacing them with Pendlay or barbell rows. Will progress and fatigue be difference than with cleans? Yes - but not drastically so.
>front, side, and rear delts
Speaking out of your ass, I see. First, no one develops substantial nor even noticeable "imbalances" over a couples weeks/months training. If anything, novice lifters have imbalances from everyday life, like posture problems. Secondly, any and all pushing movements are anterior-deltoid dominant - front delt development is a non-issue. Posterior deltoid are balanced out from the pulling movements, including deadlifts. Once again, a non-issue, unless you're going in with a preexisting imbalance.
>If you think your triceps and biceps will develop without any isolation and by doing chinups once or twice a week
There's nothing to think. With the way biomechanics work, one cannot undergo elbow flexion without significant biceps muscle recruitment; during certain parts of the chinup movement, biceps are recruited more heavily than lats. Even triceps are involved in the chinup/pulling, since the long head of the triceps attaches to the scapula. And the same applies for triceps. This isn't to say isolations don't target such muscle groups more directly, but the question is if it's necessary to bother with. For a novice, the answer is "no", unless they want to waste their time and energy (just like with the chins and dips, doing some curls won't somehow ruin the program, but it might not help either).
>wrecking your joints/back with heavy compounds
You're the only fool here, an ignorant and stupid one. Don't speak for "the majority" when you can't even speak for yourself.

opposed to high-bar if you got shoulder mobility issues.. geezusfuckingchristmas did you even read it? Because sure as bear shitting in the woods, you don't lift.

then you never deadlifted or OHP in your life... confirmed faggot.

There is no magic program but there sure as hell are better programs than SS.

There is 0 reason to skip direct arm work and more direct backwork.

Bar Starzz is another.

Wow, one that's literally impossible for an 8 a day full time worker, and one that looks like a bunch of monkey bar ghetto nigger shit.

This post is a work of art. Not even joking. Thanks for making my 4:30am that much more enjoyable

Really fishing for nibbles, huh?

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