Love reading about math and physics on wikipedia

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How can you talk about math without doing it? It's not like doing science where you have to actually perform an experiment. If you have a conversation about math that isn't just "dude math what's up with that shit" then you are doing math.

>I'm genuinely interested in mathematics
so start doing it
is that so fucking hard?

it means you're a philosophy major. No hate though, they do some interesting stuff.

Well, see, "real" math is all about rigorous proof writing, rather than doing trivial computations. Could be you have no problem with that and just hate the boring, mechanical aspects of computation.

So you like math but you don't like problem solving? I don't know what you think being a mathematician is but it involves quite a bit of problem solving. Maybe it's a certain type of problem solving you don't like in which case fine, there's probably a branch of math for you, but you need to be specific then. It sounds like you want to be a hobbyist though, not really contributing just learning.

Don't listen to most comments here, they're just people that look for excuses to feel better than anyone else. Not anyone has to like math/physics in the same way as they do, and it's also a process (what you think about these subjects today is by no mean what you might think of them tomorrow).
While it's true that if you don't like proofs and problem solving there isn't much to do in these fields, but I think that over time you'll start getting more and more into it (if you keep reading and exploring your interests). If you really like it, over time you'll want to experience the process of "doing" math and physics yourself, rather than just reading about it. If that doesn't happen, you shouldn't feel bad - not anyone has to be a head-on math and physics expert to be an enthusiast - you can still enjoy these things the way you do now. I seriously hate how everyone here is completely - "hur dur you have to be a real scientist to like science, you're only a meme pop-sci fan". People can have hobbies, science isn't different.

You should try setting a concrete goal for your mathematical study. Something like "I want to understand the proof of the hairy ball theorem" or "I want to be able to prove that you can't trisect an angle with compass and straight edge" would be good mid- to long-term goals depending on what you know now. That way what you're doing will feel more meaningful.

If you still find math to be boring, then either you just really don't like math or med school is interfering with your ability to enjoy any academic pursuit.

good reply, thanks friendo

best post ITT

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>I want to want to be a mathematician but I really don't enjoy solving problems
Then you don't want to be a mathematician, nor will you ever be one as solving problems is what improves your mathematical ability.
What you want to be is a science fiction writer.

>i want to be a mathematician but i don't like doing math

fucking retard

that's like saying you want to be a chef because you love cooking shows, but you hate making food

UNA

sneed

what a rude board.

some guy comes to talk about something and just gets shit all over. you guys are asses.

then self-discipline is your only friend to succeed in the academia

Fucking newfag, this is 4chins.
It's just bantz, buddy.
Go back to your Plebbit safespace.

No it is not bantz. There's just a lot of negative assholes here. Maybe I'm just getting too old for this place.

welcome to Veeky Forums

>implying you can ever leave

It's literally always been like that, even before Veeky Forums, board culture has always been like this.
Fucking newfags, I tell ya!

lmao fuck you

You like watching pretty pictures, not doing to work to go out and photograph them.

you're not a photographer, just some dofus

Those are both my posts and I've been here over a decade. It must be my age.

I can leave, fuck that shit.

And you're a nigger

Classic newfag.

>Those are both my posts
no shit

>I've been here over a decade
same

>I can leave, fuck that shit.
that's what i thought. i left for 3 years and now i'm back every day

>love reading about sports in newspapers
>love watching sports and reading books about sports
>have tremendous respect for athletes
>fucking hate doing exercise
>hate putting in effort and training (practising skills work, tedious cardio and strength training)
explain this

This is what watching too much pornography does to your brain. You get stuck in the spectator's mindset, seeking passive gratification rather than active gratification.

This place was always hostile but now it seems dysfunctional. I see nothing but memes and tryhards. Am I mistaken?

It apparent the average age on this site isn't increasing.

>Cluelessness the post

Oh, another meme. Nice one.

/b/ is how you describe, truly a fucking disgrace of its former self. This place seems to retain an element of wit. I like it here.

In other words,

you're a cuck

It's called "work ethic," kiddo

>Filename

Physicists are notoriously bad at transferring their enthusiasm to students.

>I want to be a mathematician, I just don't want to do what mathematicians do

Yeah, you don't want to be a mathematician, you want to see yourself as a mathematician. You're really just a shallow cunt. Fuck off.

>newfag tryhard: the post

It's okay user ignore the meanies

I understand what you mean. I personally don't enjoy solving long multi page computational problems or doing proofs that much because it's a lot of effort and I'm a busy guy who works a lot, but I love math and science

I always took the hardest classes in school but now that I'm out of school the sort of "force" pushing me to do math to get a good grade is gone so I can't be asked to do problems anymore, but I still study math and am currently setting up to try and do a math bachelor's for fun, without the proofs or problem sets but only with the conceptual understandings of the mathematical concepts

I personally prefer knowing the concepts and understanding the proofs rather than doing the calculations and creating my own proofs.

I suggest reading math textbooks until you understand the concepts fully and enough to know when this would be useful rather than doing full problem sets. You're a busy guy with your medical school apparently from comments so don't worry, we all have our time priorities elsewhere in life sometimes

Enjoy user don't let anyone bring you down for having a casual appreciation of math. It seems like Veeky Forums hates "casual" math lovers even more than "math haters" and it's annoying

>Literally not an argument: the post

>It seems like Veeky Forums hates "casual" math lovers even more than "math haters" and it's annoying
so true just look at this thread

>I personally prefer knowing the concepts and understanding the proofs rather than doing the calculations and creating my own proofs.
If you don't do the proofs, you won't understand the concepts. There's no way around this.

Because those sorts of people don't love maths, they love themselves. They want to feel smart without actually doing the work.

You can read the existing proofs and understand the concepts. You can also read a problem, understand whether you would be able to do it if you wanted to, then move on without wasting time actually writing it down on paper. It's not hard.

Another meme. The internet is raising a generation of kids that speak only in memes.

Proofs are when math becomes interesting. Just analyze the "why" and then even the most elementary mathematics becomes fascinating.

>kids
>is an adult
Whoa, such a deep par!
Try harder, newfag.

Trust me, you won't learn anything doing that. Many, many undergrads have made that mistake before you.

It sounds like you dislike computation rather than problem solving. Maybe look into a real analysis or abstract algebra book and try doing some proofs.

OP is confirmed fedora pop-scientists
Only seeks out science stuff to feel like he is a part of the group, without ever having to do any of the work or giving a shit about the actual nature of the stuff. OP is a fag.

OP is just like those closet homos who are sports fans but never put in the time and effort to improve themselves physically.

and you are like a pro athlete who shits all over his fans not realizing that he needs them to get paid

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>I want to be straight but I don't want fugg chicks

It's true.

>enthusiast: Hey guys, I'm very interested in science and mathematics

>Veeky Forums: FUCK YOU

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>without the proofs or problem sets but only with the conceptual understandings of the mathematical concepts
When you get stuck on a problem and have to spend time thinking about it and turning things around in your head is when the real understanding happens. For normal people anyways. If you're really smart then just reading it might be enough

If Veeky Forums's reaction deters you, you dont care enough to begin with. Therefore, to reiterate:

FUCK YOU AND FUCK OFF

Fair enough and probably very accurate

But OP is a medical student and only wants to study this for enjoyment as far as I can tell, so there's nothing wrong with doing it that way

yes this

good analogy

be a trainer than, understands the theory but doesn't do the practice. That's why this analogy won't work

There's a difference between solving problems and making calculations. There's a really big difference.

One requires insight and the other is a mechanical task.

yes, but the guy is also a lazy faggot, anybody can read the latest popsci facts etc etc

>I love chemistry, but i only like explosions and colors xD

it is a bit insulting desu

why though?
It seems like when people are emancipated from social norms and conventions they turn into assholes.

Gotta learn to crawl before you learn to walk, run or jump

Gotta learn how to use the quadratic formula before you learn the fun shit

u've been here at tops a year and a half faggot
back to your shitty facebook page

This

Trust me this isn't Veeky Forums as I know it to be. This is Neo-Veeky Forums which is /pol/'s infiltration populous dominating this once great slow board. Veeky Forums was never political, EVER. Now every thread is shitted on something political. Everybody is suppose to lurk on here, not post. Old Veeky Forums with all the other boards on Veeky Forums left to different forums, or left entirely. Veeky Forums is dead--ran by Facebook, twitter and tumblr. I come here to cry every once in a while. The quality of content nosedived into oblivion. There used to be geniuses here posting and lurking, but shitposters scared them away.

euler's imaginary numbers
formerly de Moivre's

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Almost like social norms and conventions serve some kind of purpose

summer was over months ago

Yeah but people should voluntarily be decent human beings instead of being shamed into becoming one.