What is the worst professor you've ever had?

What is the worst professor you've ever had?

I want to hear some stories.

She was not incompetent, just very abrasive. I am a spanish speaker, and I talked to her in the informal "tu" instead of "usted" (disculpe instead of disculpa) after class one day. She pretty much hated me after that. She also once forced a cleaning lady to leave the bathroom while she was going to use it because she needed absolute privacy.

I never interacted with professors besides lectures and practicals.
So I didn't know them that well to make a Judgement.

>Tú
Rookie mistake

>be me, a chemistryfag in my first year of uni
>pick maths as an optional module because it looked like an easy pass
>soon realise my terrible mistake
>after one lecture I realise that the head of the module is an absolute dogshit teacher
>at least 300 pounds of autism made flesh
>wore the same jeans and fleece every day without fail, each riddled with holes and food stains
>finished off the look with a scraggly beard and an actual fucking combover
>spoke in a toneless baritone drawl like a vacuum cleaner with aspergers
>would bury simple material like first year stats in mountains of irrelevant proofs and checks without showing any useful examples
>never gave out notes or recorded his lectures, so unless you could decipher his awful handwriting on the fly you were fucked
>would assign material in his assignments that wasn't even touched on in the lectures and didn't give enough of a shit to explain the answers in the workshops
>literally everyone I spoke to on the module complained about his lectures but because his research is ridiculously specialised the uni can't afford to sack him

I have a few juicy stories about this guy if anyone's interested.

tell

>boo hoo they didn't go over it in the lectures
YOU HAVE A BRAIN AND YOU HAVE GOOGLE YOU GOD DAMNED STACIES

>tu

Fuck man I don't know why but tu always feels so harsh. Like saying tu to a stranger or a superior? Jesus fuck it feels like I am raping their wife in front of them.

>halfway through a mind-numbing lecture on multi-variable integration or some shit
>the module head (henceforth referred to as R) is mid-drone, his crusty jeans vacuum-sealed to his legs
>so fucking bored, can feel myself drifting in and out of consciousness to his voice
>just about to drop off when I hear a few titters from the front row
>R doesn't even notice, just keeps droning on
>my friend next to me is silently pissing himself with laughter
>no idea why, turn my head to face Santa
>then it hits me
>his jeans
>he's got a fucking boner
>everyone on my bench is reduced to silent hysterics
>R doesn't seem to give a shit, carries on with his lecture
>turns around to other blackboard and gives the entire class a side on view of his trouser snake
>desperately biting my tongue trying not to laugh
>mfw he gives the class a cheeky little smile and continues with the lecture

Every single teacher I had in college:

>Be a math student
>Teacher arrives
>Start his speech
>Is a repetition of his subject book
>No doubts
>No questions
>Nobody cares
>Any teacher does the same
Then I asked my self why should I attend classes. Going to university was a waste of time I could use for self study.

>Be freshman
>Studying by myself
>Find a hard problem
>Ask a teacher for advice
>"Read a book on this very wide topic" was his answer
>Ok.jpg
>Ask another teacher how to solve a different problem
>"I think you are doing too much (calculations)"
>No more explanation given
>Explaining another teacher how feasible could be another way of solving a problem
>"Oh, so you have an idea..." was his answer
This was up to fourth semester, then I never asked anyone for help.

>Thesis time
>Thesis advisor give me thesis topic
>Ffw a mont later
>"T-Teacher, what about if I do this and that?"
>"That's your problem. After all is your thesis"
He said that while raising his palms up to his shoulders. Didn't see him again in the next two years, when I asked him to sign the paper where he told my university I had finished my thesis as agreed. He read nothing.

This is so sad :( where did this happen? What are you doing now user?

We had to do presentations of our studies on the local preserve on the single study day we had off for finals. This means that any commuters who would have had off to study had to go drive to present their projects (a majority of the course grade) when we aren't supposed to have classes. This was after already submitting the actual papers but before the final for the course. It started snowing while we were there and the head of our department was there.

The course would meet once a week and it would be one week in the lecture hall and the next in the preserve. He had a switch in the syllabus but didn't update the syllabus that's on the course webpage, but rather, he updated the word doc file that was buried within some folders on the course resources tab. This was a big deal because he didn't inform us and then the class was unsure about which campus to go to (since both locations are on two different campuses) and attendance is mandatory so you don't wanna have the wrong location. It was such a circus.

>Thick Eastern European accent with poor enunciation
>Comes 5 minutes late, spends 5 more minutes fiddling with his computer and the projector
>Uses touchscreen to project his JUST handwriting on board
>Does no form of preparation for his lectures.
>He just kind of rambles incoherently as he tries to figure out how to prove whatever theorem he decided to do for class that day off the top of his head, fails >20% of the time
>When he does discover a proof its needlessly complex and involves a ton of handwaving
>Lecture never follows textbook so you have to use his notes, which look like pic related.
Worst thing is he's one of the most relevant mathematicians in a big field so he'll never go away.

>It's the student's job to teach themselves what the professor is supposed to.

>spend hours preparing lectures for students who won't read the chapter, won't do any homework, and play with their phones in lecture, then declare that you "Can't teach" because you weren't able to somehow give them a deep understanding of quantum mechanics in a single 50 minute lecture
fuck all you faggots

>physical chemistry one
>Guy is actually a great researcher, Asian and very eloquent but just goes bananas when teaching
>Get in front of class
>Starts to shutter
>Begins to perspire
>Goes full thick FOB incomprehensible engrish
>Writes in chalk
>Sweats profusely
>Stammering
>Gets units mixed up and even merges them
>Never faces the class and talks to the board
>Writes so close to board that his front is covered in chalk powder but back of shirt is translucent from all his sweating
>His sweaty arms actually smear the chalk as he's writing
>Erases way too early essentially the right hand writes and the left hand erases and he goes across the board

In the end he knew he was a totally shit teacher. He was only there because he was a big name in Pchem and biochem research. Gave us all Bs randomly it seemed. I could have never taken the class and been better off.

>Then I asked my self why should I attend classes. Going to university was a waste of time I could use for self study.
The reason is that the universities hold a near monopoly on professional certification. That is the reason, user. I'm sorry.

yo bald fucker, teaches "Introduction to Chemical Engineering"
>from another country, with a really annoying paraguay accent (classes were in portuguese)
>every single class would waste 10min or more saying that chem engineers are better than other engineers because "muh work opportunities"
>mentioned the same concepts every class as if they were important, then when we actually "learn" it we never use it again
>whole course is literally useless, 1 semester later we had introduction to industrial processes, it was the same thing except we actually learned something
>made us visit some factories that have literally nothing to do with chemistry or chem engineering. One of them didn't do shit but store and package fertilizer
>would waste 15min of a class complaining about a random student studying for something else more important and hard
>an ONLINE SURVEY made up 10% of our grades

Everyone hated him, including other teachers. At least he made me realize I didn't actually like chemistry

ITT: salty poor students

It'd be fine if they didn't require my attendance.
I'm taking Discrete Structures, a CS/Math course. The lectures are always rambling wastes of time but I have to attend because he poses problems daily that we need to turn in at the end of the semester. It is 10% of our grade. Maybe I can sympathize with the prof. He has to waste time teaching the course, why should he suffer alone?

It literally is, though, asshole. The professor can't force you to learn shit. Their only job is to point you in the right direction. It is your responsibility to learn the material yourself.

Damn that sucks. Should've gone to a university in a first world country like the United States of America.

Can we make this a "worst students" thread?

How about the asshole who comes into class, texts on their phone half the time not paying attention, then chimes in and asks some batshit retarded questions? I sure love that character.

>3rd year organic chemistry - structures and mechanisms course
>Old as fuck prof who does not do reaserch but uni keeps him around to teach
>Terrible lectures written in chicken scratch on black board
>Wastes too much time every lecture over trivial points and rushes important points into a 5x5 cm square in the bottom corner of the board in last 5 mins BC he runs out of room
>Every lecture extended by 10-15 mins as he rushes to finish the lecture
>Have to take notes as students from next class come in bc this moron has decided to go over time
>Test questions all have mechanisms that have the first couple of steps from a vague reaction that was mentioned off handedly that no one knows

One of the worst teachers I have ever had. Idk why the uni still keeps him around, his classes consistently have mid 50s average.

>go to freshmen bio lab
>filled with public health majors
>people major to give vaccines and shit outside of walmart
>they complain the entire time about nothing making any sense
>say labs are too stressful
>one wants to transfer to education to work with special needs kids
>lab partner constantly tries competes with me about predicting the right results
>he constantly brings up his high school chem class
>he also makes bad edgy jokes like a wannabe Daniel Tosh
>instructor is literally blind in one eye and has no depth perception
>seemingly nobody actually wants to be there
I'm in some shitty co-enrollment at the local community college and seem to care more than these fucks. Why did they go to this school if they just want to fuck around and not take this expensive shit seriously?

1) You're at a community college, so the overall quality of students will be worse.
2) They're freshmen, so naturally they will act like retarded children.

Though, I can't say it's too much better at a proper college. Especially if it's a state school, you'll still run into a lot of people who just don't give a shit. You can't let that bring you down, though. I know it's demotivating but you just gotta work and leave these people in the dust.

>community college
I'm not though. My bio class is the only class I have at the four year college. I thought all the people who didn't care wouldn't major in a subject that requires studying and not shitting up the labs.

Why do people who obviously don't care about biology take bio classes?

>It'd be fine if they didn't require my attendance.
Most don't

That's because you don't pronounce tú as if you were a bitch with a half-lisp like you're supposed to.

blinndergarten?

I think you severely overestimate the rationality of the typical 18 year old. Freshmen tend to get filtered out pretty quickly but some of the assholes who don't give a shit will stick around. Also keep in mind that university prerequisites are retarded, forcing kids to take classes that are irrelevant to them.

>where did this happen?
In the country where you are beheaded for the lulz.

>What are you doing now user?
Highschool teacher. I was previously working as a programmer, but my boss didn't paid me a single cent. I am considering studying another career (graphic design).

In the third world there is another reason, at least for a foreign: a free trip to these wild lands where you can get a certification for doing nothing. You can come here and study a Ms or Phd, get paid, shamelessly copy a paper and tell the board examining your thesis it is your research with no consequences but getting your ms or phd degree... for free.

I haven't had any "bad" professors so much, just bad subjects.

The worst stuff is, being aussie, the government basically blackmails every uni with funding to include "aboriginal culture" stuff in every degree, which basically means students are forced to provide free work for aboriginal organisations to get their grades, and you can't protest or you get labelled a racist.

Horseshit.

Which backwater shitty uni do you go to?
What was your degree in?

I never had to study aboriginal history outside of school.

>In the country where you are beheaded for the lulz.
Saudi Arabia?

>Highschool teacher. I was previously working as a programmer, but my boss didn't paid me a single cent. I am considering studying another career (graphic design).

Fuck man. Do you still like math? Why don't you try coming to the west?

The worst ones are the smug fucks in math classes who speak up 15 times a class to try and impress people with their Wikipedia knowledge and overly complicated answers to obvious questions.
Also fuck the professors who enable these dickheads by asking crappy questions every 5 minutes.

Fuck you I do that. You are just salty because you know that then it is people like me who get personally invited by the professors to attend their talks. Oh wait, I bet you didn't know that because no professor has ever asked you to come. Kek.

What you people stuck in the edgy teen mentality need to learn is that mathematics is a competition. When a professor first enters a classroom there are very few ways he can directly distinguish the trash from the good students. If you want him to recognize you, you need to act. You need to impress him. And if he is asking a question he is doing that precisely to take note of who is the one who answers so that later he can focus just on that student or group of students, the ones that actually matter.

new pasta

We had a legitimately autistic kid in our math classes and not even "autistic but really smart", but /r9k/ levels of autism.
He always asked really, really dumb questions about things the professor explained seconds ago.
And then he always started discussions with the teacher and asked just as stupid follow up questions which further showed that he didn't listen to the answer the professor just gave him.

All of that while spending the lectures browsing the binding of isaac and undertale subreddit.
He also ALWAYS put his hand up when a question was asked and he was ALWAYS wrong.

I went to UniSA, this was back in ~2013.

We had a course "Information Systems Professional Practice" (basically just bullshit timefilling stuff about e-commerce etc.) and had to make websites for some aboriginal legal outreach service, and they said the best assignment would then be given to third year students (in the web design stream) as an assignment to flesh out with a proper backend and stuff, and the finished product would then be used as their live website.

I have a mate who went to Adelaide Uni around the same time, and they had a similar thing (in the sense of doing free work for grades) in one of their first year courses.

I don't know if the government is still pushing this stuff but it was a real thing at the time.

forgot to respond to the other part, I did bachelor of I.T. in software development, but we had a common first year across all streams (networking, web design, etc.) so everyone had to do it.

I had one of those too senpai. It was some bs "general engineering" course that freshmen were required to take, and this fucker would raise his hand for every single rhetorical question the professor asked. It was always some super 3edgy5me response that never contributed anything to discussion. The whole class hated him, including the professor

>Mathematics is a competition
>Getting THIS fucking serious about manipulating arbitrary abstract mind structures
Kek

>First year of uni
>organic chemistry
>enter class and start talking with friends cause the professor isn't there
>ten minutes later he arrives looking like shit
>bedraggled hair, red as fuck eyes, dirty clothing
>he tells all the class to shut up
>he's nervous, probably high as fuck
>his lesson is very interesting, though
>end of the lesson
>he leaves the class
>next day he comes a bit more clean, doesn't look high
>lesson is boring as fuck

He kept coming high as fuck some days, which I loved. I don't know why but those days his speeches were amazing

The one and only

Where was this, USP?

It was during the first year of university, math degree, calculus professor. The man used to teach with nothing to read from, he just wrote things from his head, a lot of times he wrote things wrong. But the real deal was one beautiful day, before the date of the tests was decided. A friend of mine raises his hand to ask the professor a question and says: "Mr. XXX, which day will the tests be?" And he replies after three long seconds of thought: "Oh... Decide a date amongst yourselves and give it to me at the end of the class". Everyone in the class laughed really hard. He was terrible at teaching and because of it I got my worst score ever in a test (1,5), failed calculus and am thinking of quitting this uni and start the same degree at a new university.

>prof is 75yo senile dude from middle of nowhere in Oklahoma
>no idea how he received a formal education in math
>writes semi-neat definitions straight from the book before class on the board
>proceeds to write more notes in between what he had already written instead of erasing anything
>could only ever come up with examples that were ungodly easy or ones that didn't work
>not sure if he knew the difference between a permutation and a combination
>rambled about induction as if he were the one who invented it
>skipped the algorithms chapter because "you'll learn it in your cs classes" even though half the class wasn't cs
>spent 2 weeks (6 lectures) on the konnesburg (spelling?) bridge problem
>slightly racist to the whole class

I never should have taken (((discrete))) math

My university has a pchem PhD teaching biochem. You can probably understand how that's going for me right now. She did some research on some chaperone proteins, so she's knowledgeable in the basics and chaperones, but that's it. Everything else is straight from the book. It's a big pair of shoes to fill, so I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt, but fuck it's painful so far.

> Learning Algorithms
> Not learning George Bush rhythms

>be me
>first year Neuroscience
>have to do psychology modules because the departments crossover
>whatever, easy credits
>first lecture
>lecturer walks in, face and neck of a turkey, body shape of a South Park character
>accent never heard before on this planet
>"Heeeeelooo efferrryyywahnnn"
>oh boy here we go
>frantically trying to make sense of her lecture, trying to match her slides to my notes and vice versa
>suddenly "F-eye-errrr eeeeengeeeeeiiiinessss are reeeddddd"
>give up trying to make notes, realize this is impossible

I had her for a full year, learned nothing in her lectures, only showed up so they didn't kick me out for not attending.

The thing is that "manipulating arbitrary abstract mind structures" is an actual job with very few decent open positions where you can spend a decade of your life getting all the necessary qualifications and then end up being an assistant's assistant's associate assistant professor teaching college algebra to art school fuckups.

If you want that to be your future then good luck, but I will destroy everything in my path just to avoid that fate.

>tfw your first semester maths professor introduces himself with the words "don't get your hopes up, 90% will fail the exam the first time anyway"
Needless to say 85% was actually the failure rate for his exams.

You are acting like people who complain about shit profs are inferior to you, when the reality is that you're a cuck enslaved by his own ego, who would rather waste his time looking shit that should have been covered in the lecture in the first place up, in his free time, than complain about a professor doing a terrible job teaching him something at a university he literally pays to attend, just for the sake of feeling superior to his peers for being able to do something absolutely mediocre, like looking things up on his own.

>be me
>first semester Engineering
>have chemistry II, cause fuck me thats's why
>mostly boring topic, somewhat entertaining little chinese woman as teacher
>penultimate week lecture
>doing exercises, so everyone is looking at their notebooks
>suddenly teacher starts tripping while pacing
>front row student gets close to her and walks her out of the room
>everyone vaguely notices and wanders what is going on
>teacher doesn't comeback, everyone leaves
>learn later that teacher literally had heart attack and couldn't do the last classes
>worthless replacement professor passes the rest of the material in a rush, fail exam

Ahh, my Chemistry 101 labs, love shitposting about them

>be a naiive 18yo, enroll in a local college in bumfuck nowhere
>slavland, but even for our standards these labs are super ghetto
>filled with half broken CCCP shit from the 60s
>most essential stuff is broken
>no distilled water so it's either haul barrels of it from another building a mile away or use tap
>every single propippete is broken
>literally vacuum up 10M HCl with your mouth
>fume hoods are of course broken, so volatile shit is done by an open window
>do some basic chloroform shit, be dizzy for the next two hours
>need that 10M HCl in a vial? Some faggot broke all funnels years ago, but you can just pour it straight from the bottle if no pipettes available
>good thing our protective equipment consists of a labcoat
>staffed by dead eyed assistant who can eyeball aforementioned 10M HCl to vial procedure within 0.1ml aka the only person with extensive Chem training
>administered by bimbo TA who can't do fractions
>btw waste disposal consists of pouring water into the acid solution and then just pouring in down the drain
>the most precise scale is on a shaky table on a creaky wooden floor
>CCl4 is, unsurprisingly, the non polar solvent of choice
>leaky NO2 tank in the corner

Man that place was ghetto

Nigga...

>be 10th grade
>have hearing issues
>nothing too bad, but i need to lip read if someone is talking with a heavy accent
>enter "wan"
>he has a vietnamese accent that is so thick it made rice come out of my ears
>also barely emotes, and never moves his lips so i cant even lip read
>go from B+ student to C- because i cant understand the guy
apparently this was the case for a few students. the guy wasnt a bad person, or even incompetent as far as i could tell, but if i cant understand the words someone is saying, then it would have been better to have a bad teacher. its a shame too, his son and i got along really well but it was always awkward visiting him and his dad.

>tú
Yup. Fatal mistake.

>1 week left
>somehow enough material crammed in for you to fail
explain exactly how that's possible

>be 2nd year
>professor doesn't upload any lecture material
>textbook is irrelevant to course
>no homework, grade entirely determined by exams
>professor refuses to give back or ever talk about midterms
>midterms are 7 multiple choice questions, no partial credit. some questions are based off of like a sentence of trivia he's said in lecture once.
>averages on exams float around 1/7, 2/7.
>lab partner scored triple the class average by blindly guessing
>prof probably reuses the test every year, everyone who scores above a B is probably part of some chinese cheating scandal.

I once had a physics professor who would tell us to read the book/use online sources to learn a physics concept, then quiz us in class to gauge how well we knew it, then would lecture on what we didn't seem to get. The best part was that the quizzes were graded.

this thread is about bad professors, user

the fucking vectornazi in vector calculus (undergrad)

tests were like 5 problems wrong with multiple parts. If you made any mistake that caused you to get a wrong answer the whole thing was marked wrong. If you forgot to mark your vectors by putting a dot or a hat over it it was -10 points each time. The tests were hell especially since I was a brainlet at the time, there were people who literally got negative scores. We only had 45 minutes, most people didn't finish.

The worst part was actually how fucking obsessed she was with cheating. One guy got brought a TI83 instead of a scientific calculator and she instantly failed him and told him to go home. If you get a 0 on one test you pretty much have to drop out. Another guy wrote his test in pen (lmao) and as she handed it to him she took one look at the first page and threw it in the trash told him to gtfo.

first math class I ever failed. I knew the material, I just had to speed up to finish the damn test and in doing so made so many errors I couldn't get anything right. I know people are gonna call me a brainlet but this was the worst class I ever took.

>negative scores

What the fuck, I've never heard of that before. Like did they mispell their name or something?

>0 points (no partial credit) for getting answer wrong
>minus points for "small errors" like forgetting to mark vectors regardless of whether the answer is right/wrong

granted most people at least got one or two questions right and scored in the 20's-30's, but there were a few who got negative or single digit scores. Keep in mind this was an undergrad class with mostly engineers so lots of average IQ normies who haven't realized they're brainlets yet

I'm doing a minor in Computer Science and holy shit coding subjects are the absolute worst

People sit in front of you. open their laptop, and go straight to a video game within 5 minutes if the lecture starting. Why even fucking show up if you're just going to be a distraction to everyone and not even attempt to listen?

>Extra lecturer on another Professor's Module because it's a required module for the whole engineering department
>insists on adding extra stuff that he's interested in despite it being PhD level research and the module is a first year introduction
>shouts and screams about all the stuff he wants to see in the assignment and how he'll fail us if we don't include it
>what he wants us to include has no bearing on the assignment brief, or the module
>write assignment, ignore his ranting abd write what was asked for in the brief
>everyone who wrote what he asked for was failed because it had nothing to do with the brief

Electrical engineering lecturer:
>Indian, but lazy as fuck
>Took 6 weeks to mark the midesem
>When he released the midsem results it was a scan of handwritten student ID numbers and a score next to it, in no order
>Had to scroll through 10 pages to find your mark because no ctrl+f
Same guy:
>Final exam, 5 questions, worth 50% of total grade
>Gave no part marks for questions
>Rounding error results in loss of 10% of final grade
he wasn't the lecturer the next year so that probably got him fired

Algorithms and complexity:
>Lecturer would sneeze INTO microphone every 5 minutes
>kept me awake at least

Fundamentals of Thermodynamics:
>Professor demanded undivided attention
>Would stop talking if people started whispering
>Would stop if someone was looking at their phone
>This in a two hour long lecture

you've earned it

Back in my intro programming lectures there were a group of 6 lads who EVERY LECTURE would just sit there playing one of those MOBA games and hog all the power outlets for their shitty alienware laptops

>mfw 5 of them failed and they had to drop out for half a year because pretty much all the following courses depended on that one as a prerequisite

nice trips at least

>Same guy, but now the sole lecturer on 2nd Engineering Maths Module
>Baby tier maths, hardest thing was non-homogenous 2nd order differentials
>except all the questions relate to mass spring systems so it's easy to see if you're right or not
>was always 10 minutes late
>never saved corrections to his slides
>consequently spends the next 15 minutes adding in corrections that he could of just saved from the last lecture
>every slide is covered in tiny equations
>no clear order, skips steps when covering new topics
>refuses to repeat or clarify what he just said
>'I've already explained it I shouldn't have to again'
I thought that was bad, then we did the experiment section
>supposed to measure temperature of water as it cools to plot an exponential curve
>gives us water out the hot tap (45 ish degrees), a heavily Insulated beaker and 10 minutes
>it cools so slowly that in 10 minutes it drops 5 degrees
>graph is literally straight because shite experiment
>we point this out to him and ask if we can do the experiment again but with a better setup because our results form the majority of the assignment that is 70% of the module grade
>instead he just shows us how to force excel to plot the data as an exponential so we can manipulate it as required by the assignment
>People were so fucked that they asked the old, retired lecturer to come back and do a 5 hour revision session so people would have a chance of passing
Thank fuck they don't let him near 3rd years and up

>>People were so fucked that they asked the old, retired lecturer to come back and do a 5 hour revision session so people would have a chance of passing

I know exactly how you feel. A few semesters ago some assholes in lecture were on their laptops and giggling about something and the professor sperged out. This semester they were talking about the event before class, wondering why their professor yelled at them. "He's such a meanie haha," "I guess he didn't like that we were looking on Reddit while he was lecturing hahaha." Fucking children.

>I've already explained it I shouldn't have to again
To be fair, it is really annoying when some dickwad literally asks the professor to repeat what they said because they weren't listening.

In an autocad class where the professor gave us out big sheets of paper to draw a bllueprint on. Tells us we can’t fold it so we ask how does he expect us to carry it around? “Oh you have to buy those arhictect tubes, forgot to tell you guys to buy one”. Literally had to walk home holding a huge sheet of paper while avoiding the rain.

Yeah I agree, but he would literally not explain something properly half the class would ask him to clarify what he meant and he'd point blank refuse

>What country? Romania?

kek

Holy fuck... don't even eat me started.

The professors in the physics department are fucking shit. They glorify "self teaching" over genuinely teaching. And while I understand what they're trying to do and I've heard the argument you have teach yourself as it's the only way to learn I personally think it's a shit method.

My freshman classes all consisted of the teachers talking for like 15 minutes and then forcing us to get in groups and work together on some vague shitty tutorials while they stand there. Then while you do that "Class Assisntants" roam around to help you understand the material by fucking asking questions and responding with questions. As if physics wasn't confusing enough for some people.
"Hey why is A the way it is? "
"Hur durr, Is it? Ask your group"

Then the teachers assign homeworks that force you to read the book and actually use math that to some people would be hard. And it's like that every fucking day of the class. And sure the teachers might derive something every now and then and sure they might demonstrate things but for fucks sake. If the majority of what a teacher does is stand there and tell you to read while you sit there confused and bombarded with questions and not answers them why even pay? A teacher is supposed to show you the book material and explain it and guide you, while you do your part to understand.

I've had a teacher at the beggining of the year plainly state

"I'm not to here to teach you, I'm here you teach yourself"

Fucking pissed me off. I mean I'm glad at least I could follow and do the physics but I knew half the class was fucking struggling. I mean put yourself in my scenario. You're 18+, not in high school, pay thousands of dollars for a class where you are forced to buy the special edition Tutorial Book for $90, and then forced by the teacher to sit in groups of no more than 4 (god forbid you sit in a group of 5, else they make a fuss), and are forced to do these vague problems.

Never thought about it that way

That's not college anons, that's ducking high school. I can definitely see this approach working in high school, but when this fucking process reaches fucking senior level courses you know there's a problem.

Any retaliation against the method will always result in you being told

"statistically this has been proven to be the best method of teaching"

And personally I don't buy it. One of the professors who's head of the department has a fucking poster of his study where they teach people physics by using hand motions.

To answer your question OP
All in all it stresses me out and all of these teachers have been the worst expirence

that's so sad :(
satisfying story, thx

The point of giving grades to students is to measure how well they understand the subject. Graded homework is therefore retarded, because students can cheat by copying from each other, or even by pirating wolfram mathematica and using the step-by-step solution feature in some cases.

>Graded homework is therefore retarded
No, grading homework and making it part of your final grade is retarded.
For a student who genuinely wants to know how well he understands a subject graded homework is very valuable.
Grading can also be used to qualify people for exams, eg. you need to get 50% of the points of all homework to be able to take the exam.

>No, grading homework and making it part of your final grade is retarded.
That's what I meant, I guess my post was unclear.
>Grading can also be used to qualify people for exams
I'm not sure how useful that is, on the one hand, it weeds out retards, but on the other hand, it compels everyone to do the homework, even people who already have a good understanding of the subject for whatever reason.

>I'm not sure how useful that is, on the one hand, it weeds out retards, but on the other hand, it compels everyone to do the homework, even people who already have a good understanding of the subject for whatever reason.
It is how our university handled it, at least with some courses.
I like the Idea, since (as you already mentioned) it stops people from slacking of. Also people repeating the course didn't need to fulfill the homework requirement to be able to take the exam for a second time.

>aerospace analysis
>professor doesnt put examples on slides because he doesnt think people will come to class if he does
>examples he does in class are often wrong
>slides are often wrong
>TAs just get swamped with questions
>homework directions are ambiguous, redundant and sometimes contradictory
>will change homework problems the day before they are due
>gives us matlab coding problems even though no one in the aerospace major here has taken matlab (the school has us take C++ for some fucking reason)
>when you send him emails he wont answer your question
>painfully obvious he doesn't even check if the work makes sense for his examples or homework

UFRGS? Had Electromagnetism this way last semester.

>geology prof
>refused to discuss readings in class, probably because she wasn't comfortable lecturing on the topic
>taught masters students even though she didn't have a PhD.
>forced us to plan our own tri-state field trip
>got fuming pissed when we went to the other geology professors for advice
>got fuming pissed when you challenged her interpretations in the field. no matter how polite or justified your argument, she viewed it as an attack.
>each homework assignment was an essay where we explained how *name of the chapter* can be used to analyze paleoenvironment.
>when she realized we weren't covering material fast enough, she started assigning 3 to 4 chapters each week.
>they started looking for her replacement after that semester
>she now teaches rocks for jocks and science for elementary school teachers while a based PhD teaches all of her major courses.

>Pay for uni
>Just google shit duh

>introduction to modern physics (terrible class that's essentially a survey course of later classes) my sophomore year
>taught by incompetent dick who gave the worst explanations for physics I've ever heard
>diagrams would be wrong, math would be full of errors, he would contradict himself every couple of minutes
>when somebody asked a question, he would cut them off halfway through, assuming he knew what they were asking, poorly answer what he incorrectly thought they were talking about, and move on, saying we had no time for anything else
>showed up ten minutes late for one of our midterms, then remembered he didn't copy a page of our tests and wandered off to go do that while we sat there in stunned silence
By halfway through I would read the textbook for a couple hours a week and learn more than his lectures could ever teach. But the worst part was the end of the semester.
>final is coming up
>despite his bullshitting I have a very high B in the class, I'll take the final and get either an A or B, I'd have to get about a 15 to make a C
>take his retarded multiple choice final that he accidentally filled with half a dozen typos he corrected over the course of the testing period
>check transcript a few days later
>C
>what the fuck?
>ask around with friends, everyone got a letter grade lower than they were expecting but he hasn't released actual grades
>multiple students email him to demand to see them, he angrily relents
>according to the grading system on the syllabus he gave us, we got the grades we thought, but he SCALED THEM ALL DOWN without informing us
>he gets spammed with questions and sends out a mass email telling us to shut up because he can do whatever he wants
>other students get the department head involved by telling him the syllabus was changed after the semester without informing us
>no word from professor, but the grades magically change a couple days later

How the fuck don't you know what Köningberg is? Also that problem pretty much spawned a whole field of mathematics. (not saying he was a good teacher)

The course does not only contain the things that are covered in lectures. It's fine (even good) to have students study the easier things themselves rather than waste time in class going through them. However your teacher might still have been shit.

Mine ventilation professor was either drunk or Alzheimer's. Would put a word document on a projector and read it to us, occasionally going on tangents about how Rhodesia was totally awesome. Entire class got a d on the midterm because it had a question on it over materials that literally weren't in the lectures or notes.

so what did you end with?

A B. According to the original scale I would've gotten an A with a few more points on any of the tests, but we have no idea what the scale he ended up using actually was.

>>literally vacuum up 10M HCl with your mouth
I'd pay a second tuition for someone to do that for me. No way I'm risking my lips like that fuck

>vert bio lecture
>actually really interesting
>good professor and lecturer
>people playing with phones entire time
>chicks shopping entire time
>people whispering and laughing about videos the entire time

Ridiculous. He was kind enough to host an hour-long review session before the first exam of the semester, and a good amount of people actually showed up to it. But then you had...

>people playing with phones entire time
>chicks shopping entire time
>people whispering and laughing about videos the entire time

It's like they think that as long as they are physically present that the review session will help them.

What the fuuuuuuck lmao