Greates philosophers of all time?

Aristolte because he was right about everything.

Mills and Utilitarism won the war of ideas on the other hand.

>Plato
>Descartes
>Kant
>Nietzsche
I don't like half my list, but in terms of influence and innovation, definitely.

snot is brain matter?

Marx as fifth,.no?

In your case yes.

The average IQ is actually rising.

You don't like Descartes and Kant?

These thinkers are some of the greatest at least to me. Too lazy to make a new picture. It is from a 3x3 thread in case you are wondering.

But anons, the actual IQ is per definition always 100.

normalized value for the test at a certain time

test change -> base score change -> normalized iq over time change

>actual
Average, user.

how did I even manage to fuck up that hard

If that's the company Peterson is in, I hate that guy now.

Hah. Yea.

Utilitarianism

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

Waddup

Not at all. It is a mean. Means vary based on where the majority of a population is clumping. We can't assume it was always 100 and will always be 100. It may have been 80 or 130, and it may yet be 200.

Kant and Nietzsche.

wat did Kant do wrong

/thread

I only recognize Peterson, who are the others?

Behold, a man!

I fucking love Bataille.

How does this guy have an audience?

Why does this guy Peterson go unrecognized all the time, until he resisted the whole pronoun thing? Do people only like him for that reason?

Nobody knew who that guy was before, then he made a youtube channel and started talking about shit.

Hey Cliff

>i pretend to like philosophy but have only read 1 or 2 books

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kyoto school user, how do i into these guys? i want to be a weeb of the highest caliber

Kurzweil may live to be 200 years old, too bad his hair gave up so soon.
I would kill myself if i went bald.

Step up, senpai.

The greatest philosopher in human history.

What the hell is this?

I can't take someone with a hat like that seriously. What is the appeal of Quine over someone like Davidson, Putnam, Lewis, etc.?

>according to me
Douglass 4 politics
Heidegger 4 philo
Perls 4 psychiatry
Lao 4 poetry

/thread

Not a single even good philosopher in this thread. Incredible work.

Disgusting dude. I don't even want to know why you had this.

Name 1 faggot

What happened is I read that book, and then I say that he is the greatest mind to ever exist, and the closest thing to God anything or anyone has ever come to in our known existence.

Plato was a brainlet and the republic is autistic

oh so now we need a nominal AND real IQ scores?

he does kinda look like a plucked chicken

not that user but "an introduction to the kyoto school" (r. carter) is ok if you're an amateur in philosophy
"philosophers of nothingness" (heisig) is good if you're more knowledgeable

Heidegger and Lao Tzu along with freddy douglas and fritzy p...

As much as I HATE Foucault influence in academia, he's undeniably a top tier historian and philosopher. Also, he's fun to read.

Obvious choices in terms of influence:
Aristotle
Descartes
Hume
Aquinas
Kant
Mill (or Bentham?)
Wittgenstein
Nietzsche
Marx
Derrida

For best of all time, my money is on Aristotle or Kant. Brilliant minds, even if they were wrong about a good deal.

Spinoza, Kierkegaard and Peirce

Plato > every other philosopher

Aristotle or Kant. Literally any other answer is wrong. Wittgenstein is a personal favourite though and ranks very highly.

Why Aristotle over Plato?

Also the most underrated.

>Standings.
Kant 5
Aristotle 4
Kierkegaard 2
Mills 2
Plato 2
Descartes 2
Nietzsche 2
Marx 2
Bataille 1
Peterson 1
Keiji 1
Kurzwell 1
W.V. Quine 1
Sean Goonan 1
Douglass 1
Heidegger 1
Perls 1
Lao 1
Foucault
Hume 1
Aquinas 1
Wittgenstein 1
Derrida 1
Spinoza 1
Peirce 1
Hegel 1

*deletes Aristotle
*adds Kierkegaard

Please be joking.

>Dershowitz

Let alone Yudkowsky, Peterson and Kurzweil

I mean fuck... I know this is bait but I don't know, good bait deserves its praise one way or the other.

This

1. Plato
2. Nietzsche
3. Aristotle
4. Heraclitus
5. Descartes, Heidegger, Kant, Schopenhauer, Hegel, Rousseau, Desmond, Dostojewski, ...
6. Many lesser known philosophers.

>they don't understand IQ is an arbitrary invention of our time
>they take it as something serious and reliable
mfw when people never grow up

My man

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He was making the point that IQ by definition is normalised to have 100 as the mean of the population.

The flynn affect, that scores are increasing, is merely an effect of that fact that teaching has become more compartmentalised and abstract (in a sense) that makes people more capable at solving IQ test questions. People are not getting more intelligent, however.

If you say anyone but Kant it just shows you don't understand Kant. The right answer is Kant.

prove me wrong

What seems like bait to you? The fact that two well known philosophers are at the top that are also known (by name and memes) to a wider audience?

I agree

>2. Nietzsche
means you didn't read enough philosophy
>4. Heraclitus
incredible surge of shit on the whole thread

Looks like Kant is taking a clear lead so far. 7 votes that with Aristotle at 5, then Kierkegaard (?) at 3.

>means you didn't read enough philosophy

Rather you didn't read enough Nietzsche.

What secret do you know? Most philosophers I've read post-Nietzsche have deep respect to him.

Roasted him.

Herbert Spencer (who isn't the social darwinism boogeyman people think he is), Adam Smith, Hayek, Jeremy Bentham, John Stuart Mill, Eliezer Yudkowsky (from LessWrong), Ray Kurzweil and Aubrey de Gray.

I believe in utilitarianism and am more or less a techno-commercialist.

>I believe in utilitarianism

opinion discarded.

Nihilist decadence as an excuse for ethical theory. Literally "thinking about ethics is too hard, let's just do some math".

Good, Nietzsche's good. Much respect to him. But if you place it 2nd (before Aristotle lmao), most likely you have never read or studied Kant, Hegel, Aquinas, Epicurus (through Lucretius' work, of course).

I believe there's a genuine link between advocating for utilitarianism and autism. If all you do aggregate human suffering/joy and then do some arithmetic, then like you say, one avoids the deeper issues and pitfalls that are typically involved with ethics. For this reason, it's a very appealing theory for people with autism, because they already see the world as 1's and 0's.

see
Plato was wrong about everything

Generally Plato, Aristotle, and Kant are considered to be the most significant philosophers. Honestly, among professional philosophers only deliberate contrarians will give a different answer.

After them you have people like Hume, Descartes, Aquinas, Spinoza, Leibniz, Locke, Berkeley, Hobbes, Hegel, and Nietzsche. Unlike the top trio, their order will vary widely depending on your views, but usually Hume and Descartes will be near the top, Berkeley and Spinoza nearer the bottom. But different people will have totally different orderings depending on their own views. Some traditions will put Hegel or Aquinas at the top of this group, for example.

Then after them you have people like Marx, Mill, Kierkegaard, Augustine, Schopenhauer, some scholastics like Scotus or Ockham, and others.

Somewhere you'll want to slot in some contemporary philosophers like Wittgenstein or Heidegger, but that gets a bit stickier as it takes a while to figure out how great somebody really was. Plus philosophy has that dumbass divide going on right now, where neither side can stand each other.

Basically this.

/thread

>threading own post
Kill yourself newfag.

Based Aubrey

Congratulations user, this all I'd wanted to say (but I didn't because English is not my first language and I'm lazy when it comes to formulate a long speech). You forgot Epicurus/Lucretius among the second group, but 10/10 post anyway.

Invention of our time, yes. Arbitrary, no. Techniques for determining intelligence via testing are continuously being refined. In fact, there are a variety of tests generally considered reliable for these purposes.

Someone hasn't done their homework.

I strongly disagree. Even science is a belief. If you put your trust in those theories, good for you. As for me, I don't.

Kek

And what exactly is your philosophy?
Gay rights?

Why did you say kek, is it a meme? Can I get a quick rundown?

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>Greates philosophers of all time?
That would probably be either Plato, Aristotle or Kant, with Aquinas as a runner-up.

#tyranosaurusrekt

aristotle
spinoza
kant
deleuze

I am triggered

Good post user.