How many Nukes would it take to break the crust of Mars enough to cause volcanic activity thus forming a magnetic field...

>How many Nukes would it take to break the crust of Mars enough to cause volcanic activity thus forming a magnetic field?
That's not how any of these works

The magnetic field is only to stop the sun from farting shit onto the surface while plants grow. That is part of the reason we send Ceres into an arbitrary orbit to act as a moon to do moon stuff so shit can start to grow and emit Co2.

It would appear as though nukes are not the solution and we need to find another way to form the magnetic field or at least something that will block sun spit. Perhaps we use lithium powered drills to drill into the core and cause reactions forming/sending new molten iron to the core to get things jiggy in the belly of Mar's core.

If you have a better idea to make Mars a livable planet I'm all ears.

Maybe if you had a trillion nukes

If you're already moving Ceres, why wouldn't you also move an asteroid into Mars' path, allowing it to do the work you had been trying to use a nuke to accomplish?

You know, that's actually not a bad idea. We'd want to send a scavenging mission there first though to observe mars in it's pre-"nuke" state so we can study that information as well as compare it to the essentially post-fallout state that we will inhabit.

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Come out of the closet already so you can do some science! You can do gay shit on Mars after we destroy the crust enough to breath there.

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Volcanos don't give you a magnetic field - Venus has plenty, yet next to no magnetic field. What gives you a magnetic field is a core spinning at a different rate than the surface - this entails a liquid mantel that gives you volcanos, but it's not the volcanoes themselves that provide that.

Suffice to say, no amount of nukes is going to liquify the planet's innards enough to allow the core to spin freely, and even if you did manage to do that, somehow, there's nothing to cause the core to spin differently than the surface.

What ya'd need, is a large object in a close retrograde orbit - probably something about half the size of the moon. You wouldn't need to liquify anything at that point, the gravitational differential between the core and the surface would take care of that for you. Albeit, this would take a few million years to really kick in, nevermind getting the object into the proper orbit.

Suffice to say, NASA's idea of putting a magnetic field generator in a distant solar-stationary orbit would be simpler and more effective, as goofy as it is.

In the end, however, the radiation problems on Mars are highly overrated. Mere inches of metal, a foot of rock, or two feet of water takes care of the problem, and there is this thing called hydroponics. Gravity, though also probably overrated, maybe a bigger issue.

So pushing Ceres into the arbitrary orbit would do everything we need then.

Why would it be worth it?

To study the production of life on a colder and lower gravity planet. Creatures would evolve to be like polar bear monkeys who are designed for lighter weight movement while on a colder than tropical planet. Fish would be like thick flounders who swim at high speeds while maintaining large amounts of flesh for body heat. Tomatoes would grow large with low amounts of liquid high in sodium yeast. Think about the possibilities.

You could do all that here... Without the need to do something so ludicrous as to move Ceres. Similarly, you could do it there, with an artificial satellite, or just underground. Besides, by the time you've had a chance to observe that sort of evolution in real time, you'd have developed the capacity to simulate it in much faster than real time, making the effort fairly moot.

...and you've made this thread before, and you've already had it explained to you that's not how volcanoes work. Why you doing this again?

The conclusion I remember us coming to in order for planets to grow again had something to do with pushing Ceres into an arbitrary orbit made by making a ring of copper wire around Mars. Idk why I came back to the idea of nuking the crust to cause volcanic activity, I think my idea was just we could work with it once we broke it at some point.

Thinking about this is it even possible to create an Earth like atmosphere on mars?
Where would you get nitrogen and oxygen from?

Plenty of water in the form of ice to create oxygen from and power things in the process and there's also apparently a lot of nitrogen and nitrogen-oxide trapped in the soil, going by Curiosity's findings - just need to heat it all up.

Really, though, terraforming is a looooong term plan. You're better off setting up underground and domed research stations, that may one day branch into self sustaining habitats. Only downside to that approach is it means that any apocalyptic plans you have for terraforming in the future may no longer be an option.

Then dig a shaft in it.

All of them, then more.

Well who knows, maybe we'll make discoveries that lead us to speeding up the process. Another posibility that avoids everything in this thread is to send a lab shuttle to Mars to gather enough samples to create a 'mini-Mars'the size of New Hampshire that we terraform to observe the process at a faster rate from an orbiting satellite. Gravity levels will be lower and weather patterns will be a lot different as well, but we could do a lot with mini-Mars.