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when is the democrat party going to learn that 1984 was a warning, not an instruction manual???

So... Donald Trump...

The only ones who unironically think it's an instruction manual are the nazbols.

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This book has done a lot of good, giving was warning signs. But I can't read it again. Too bleak, if there is such a thing.

>>*Insert your political views here*

Lol you are a retard. Book is really showing and authoritarian exsample of the Socialist state, that promotes equality, while some are more equal. It shows that political elite of 1% scumbags who never change in history, have found a way to manipulate tehnology to get total control of the individual person. Monopoly of the politics and monopoly of the economy that is possesed by the state, and all those free shops are either honeypots or some lowlifes that distance themself from system.

The book explicitly holds of from calling out Nazis or Communists, because those in control are neither. They don't care if they have to genocide, redistribute wealth, purge, or give some "sense" of individual freedom, as long as two things are not contested. Elites power and their preservation. The way that system works is to burn the bridge of succes that individuals can take, instead making them dependent on a welfeare. So if you displease the state by even thinking, good bye food,water and better to say life.

In the end it is open to interpretacion but it's meaning is to give us warning of what tehnological advancment can bring, small confiscacion of the personal freedom, inchs by inchs. But best parallel you can make with those people shoutin B.B to screen and praising their sheeple life can be seen it todays liberal(socialists) who purposely want bigger wellfare there fore creating a fixation on the goverment.


But that book was writen without consideration(probably because that was still unknown then) of genetical modification as well as mechanical augmentacion. I mean i am not a luddite, i want go have genetically modified wings and shit, but temtation to use it to reprogram human beings to "fit in" is nevertheless irresistable.

That collective future if waiting for us, a hivemind that nobody will escape.
You can only thank God or whatever you believe in that we are generations early for that.

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>that promotes equality
If I remember correctly the party didn't even pretend to promote equality.

>the Socialist state
Absolute state of you

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>that means I can't be wrong!
No one even said that my man

Janusz Korwin-Mikke.

>INGSOC short for English Socialism
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The part that wans MORE government is the party that becomes more AUTHORITARIAN, who would have guessed?

so should I read this

if you want to understand where american politics are headed sure.

>reactionary
>traditionalist
>perennialist
>larping about trad catholicism but never actually do anything
>a fetish for pagan culture
people just say im an immature jerk who needs to grow up and get real opinions generally

I bet someone is going to argue that it is merely a name and does not represent actual socialism (or it's obvious inherent dangers of turning into full on autotharian statism).

Well, anyone (e.g. leftists) who thinks this: read the actual book.

The book constantly and explicitly mentions how the party in power hates capitalists and describes them as the masters with "high hats" keeping everyone down. The socialists "saved" the proles from these "evil men".

Anyone who still hasn't noticed the present day similarities: socialists accusing the 1℅, socialists trying to "save" the people through concentrating power in big government, etc. which always goes at the expense of actual personal freedom (e.g. higher taxes, "equality" regulations, etc.) (not understanding that the wealth attained by one person does not necessarily make everyone else "poor").

>Islam if taken off from arab shiteating muslims and given to human western societies.cutting the control of goat fuckers on westerners. it will do wonders.sandnigger would be chased legitimatly and approved by whole population. the cucked would became who cucks and hard. whites will dominate the world in matter of years using thier high end rich jihad. we will go to space by force. athiest 's will become imams, jesus will be happy. and world peace would be achieved.you will be able to say smugly we are the muzlims nao.get fucked haha.after we kick the sandniggers and destroy thier seed, we will by force turn the dessert into what it was 5000bc a green land screaming Huwhite man Value Life and Beauty. A stab to the eye for those mafkrs, they will feel lost and dead haha the goat fuckers they are.

I hope you realize that Orwell literally was a socialist.

* democratic socialist

1984 is a warning against what happens when is in power! When will learn that it was meant to be a warning, not an instruction manual?

potentially unpopular opinion but for most people a properly run socialist state is a clear upgrade over the current system. + the idea that it is somehow impossible / implausible to properly run a government is to a large extent created by the memers who get elected and then spend their entire term preventing the government from doing anything

Reject ideology. Think for yourself!

They're not different ideologies. One is just a subset of the other.

Looking at the Wikipedia page for Ingsoc tells me that 1984 was quite clearly anti-socialist.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingsoc
This doesn't contradict the idea that left and right authoritarianism are both bad (which I do agree with), but to say that it isn't focused on criticising socialism is in itself a projecting of political views onto the book. It's an anti-socialist book.

>Book written by George Orwell, who went to Spain to fight for socialism, is anti-socialist.

Why is this book such a retard-magnet?

stalinism is not the same as socialism. Orwell was a trostkist

Is Homage to Catalonia worth a buy, what about his essays?

It's alright. If you're interested in the topic I'd give it a go.