How do i become creative?

How do i become creative?
Im only god at shitposting but it doesnt translate well into art.

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It helps if you eat well and get plenty of sleep.

>Im only god at shitposting but it doesnt translate well into art.

kek

>sex

This is what has worked with me (I mostly compose contemporary art music, also I do lots of ghostwriting for minor bands and a major one):
>step 1: master one craft
Any craft will do. To master a craft does not mean that you have to be academic, it just means that you have to be able to think about the medium you're working in in a structured way, istinctively, without the aid of mentors and books. It has to become your second nature.
>step 2: get used to reading poetry, walk in the woods and try to be receptive for eventual impressions
Almost self-explanatory. Poetry is the most effective source of ispiration and intense feelings you've got out there. A 50 pages poetry book by Leopardi can last you a entire lifetime, without ever going stale. It will also get you closer to the general art discourse (even if you will most likely get stuck in the 19th century or maybe the first half of the 20th century).
I can't explain to you the power of walking in the woods. Just do it, preferably with a dog (just for safety): you will most likely experience the true power of nature (which is anything but obvious in this day and age), its inherent, almost impossible age and a overwhelming impression for death.
Try to retain as many impressions as you can.
>step 3: use the impressions you've got to conjure some sort of platonic idea, which will be the subject of your art
Since you live in the 21st century the choice of the subject is fair game. Your only duty is to conjure a feeling or an idea strong enough to be mantained for hours, days or even weeks. It has to become an obsession.
>step 4: produce something, anything
If you write write something, anything. If you compose music, draw, paint, just do anything using the craft that you've mastered.
The first draft will (most likely) be borderline worthless. It is irrelevant, just finish it.

>step 5: polish it
This is the last step. It's the most important one and in a sense it will be the easier one too, even if it may be the most time consuming.
Now you have the barebone of your work of art, and you've still got in your mind the platonic idea that you want materialize through this work of art. This idea may be vague, but it should be enough for you to say ''this change is wrong'' and ''this change is right''.
The changes that are wrong should be discarded. The ones that feel right (considering both your intuition and the reasoning that lays behind them) should be retained (although some of them may be later on discarded: see the ''right'' change as some sort of spectrum, some changes are more right than others).
At this point your job becomes almost automatic, you just have to keep making the right choice. The ultimate value of your work of art will depend on a) the nature of your first idea, b) your craft and c) how much time you put into it.

Hopefully it'll help you.

nice mosaic

shitposting is a art, lad

Thanks, it is a bit helpful.
>This idea may be vague
Whenever i create something i keep thinking 'what am i trying to say with this' and it drives me insane, because i have the feeling its never interesting enough.

I know this sounds super gay, but you already are creative. You've probably been conditioned to a point to believe that creativity only comes with talent or hard work, past the reach of everyday people.

The most successful creative people I know simply enjoy the process of the thing they do, instead of focusing on impressing people or being successful. "Quality" arises naturally from the amount of time they spend doing what they enjoy. And on top of that, most of them don't match, or give a shit about, the "artist lifestyle" that many people idealize and fantasize about. Someone who "wants to become a writer" or something similar tend to be interested in the superficial associations over the actual process, and nearly always fail.

Find a medium you enjoy working with, disregard all the other shit associated with "being creative," and just enjoy the process for its own sake. If you're lucky, you'll enjoy it your whole life and never really feel like you're "good" at it.

One of the most posted books here is a big ass shitpost (gravity's rainbow)

> know this sounds super gay, but you already are creative.

thanks mom

Actually good advice.

damn, that's a lot of shit to sort out

I know how hokey it sounds, but I really believe it.

I taught music lessons for years to kids and adults of all ages. When we would talk about anything slightly "creative" like improvising or coming up with a part, the youngest kids were usually the quickest to "get" it, and the older a student was, they got more reserved and timid about being "creative." But also, nearly every student I've taught had some light-bulb moment where those reservations went away, at least for a while.

As we get older, the encouragement to be creative wanes, and without that, a lot of people lose touch with their creativity.

Writing isn't like coloring with crayons. All the greatest writers took it very seriously and wrote a lot every day. If you don't write a lot every day, you probably won't ever be much a writer.

You need to have originally loved what you do and also to have an ambitious and obsessive personality, capable of enduring several years of training and information-absorption with the goal of great achievements in mind.

The first thing is to work on what you love. I guess that you can only sustain several years of willpower and effort when you really have a deeply rooted love for what you do. Of course, the more ludic aspects of the beginnings, when you draw, model clay, or write just for the pleasure of it are going to fade away to some level. Artists and scientists, when they get older and start to deal more professionally with their line of work, will face several working days of laziness, fear, disillusionment, self-loathing, and other dark thoughts. The playful early-days of the activity (be it mathematics or writing) start to get more heavy on ones shoulders, as you realize that, in order to refine your aptitude and natural-taste for the activity, you need to work hard and study for several hours, and that even in days you only want to do pleasurable activities. The toys of the infancy gradually became dictators, and professional ambitions make you live in some sort of perpetual torture for getting better and producing more.

So, the first advice is to learn what you really love: you will not invest all of your brain and time in something you don’t like. However, you need to accept that, even if you love something, when you get professional it will be normal for you to face several days and hours of work that are painful and frightening. It is not perpetually pleasurable to create great art or to work with scientific theories and research. There are a lot of days when you are tired, uncreative, nervous, preoccupied, etc., but the only way of achieving something is to have a creative routine. You must try to work daily on your field, even if most days you are not in the correct mood. The thing is: in the long time the activity will prove rewarding. Just like the gym-time, when you feel pain and discomfort in the concentrated hours of the training, but became healthier, more confident and more physically apt in the long time. So, you might prefer to be having sex, watching a movie, travelling, playing games, or whatever in the time designated for writing or sculpting or calculating, but it is important to know that the sweets of immediate pleasures are fading ones, but the more disperse pleasure of doing something valuable is much stronger when viewed in the larger time period of a career or a lifetime.

A third thing I suggest is to search for eminent names in your filed and study their works to the very roots. It is normal for beginners to imitate the style of the great ones of the past almost in a servile manner, and that is all right. You don’t need to be original from the very beginning; you can wait for your own voice and style (I know, that is more of an advice for artists than for scientists) to slowly mature out of the first years of imitation. You can solve your initial doubts and anxieties by asking yourself what were the solutions that your heroes figured out to solve their difficulties, and then imitate their procedures.

thanks

everyone will tell me to fuck off but try with psychedelics, but be careful because they can do serious damage to the mind
if that doesn't work, just do something non-creative and see if the daily rutine of a regular joe makes you go crazy and maybe you can do something creative with that
and you have to really know what creative medium you are good at, you may like literature but be a better musician than a novelist, or maybe a painter, who knows
good look, i hope you can sort yourself out
other tips are stop watching porn, fap with your imagination, sleep deprivation and having a disfunctional family

Utter bullshit, disregard this

>tfw you are a mess on every level
how can i get peterson to be my therapist

>good look
good luck*
ftfm
also, you should really master whatever you are "good at" before trying psychedelics, the structure of my post is retarded

hypnosis:

You are on a foreign island. You’re the first one who sets his foot now on this island for centuries. It’s overgrown with jungle butterflies, strange birds singing. You’re walking through the jungle and come across a gigantic cliff. Upon closer inspection this giant cliff is made of pure emerald. And a holy monk hundreds of years ago spent all his life with a chisel and hammer to scratch a poem into the wall. It’s hard like diamond so it took his entire life to write three lines of a poem. Please open your eyes, you’ll be the first to see it, and I’d like you to read it to me

fuck your brain until you develop bipolar disorder
thank me later, kiddo

Try making shitpost art

>creativity
>art
>in post-industrial society

I think you're missing my point if you think that's some kind of counterargument. I agree completely with you, but you seem to be overlooking the fact that writers do what they do fundamentally because they enjoy writing and they get better because they enjoy the reward getting better.

The topic is about getting someone initiated into the creative process, not about honing their existing skill towards "greatness" with discipline. That shit is entirely irrelevant until the student gets to that point, as important as it might be later on.

im afraid drugs will just turn me into a drooling retard.

>The most successful creative people I know simply enjoy the process of the thing they do, instead of focusing on impressing people or being successful. "Quality" arises naturally from the amount of time they spend doing what they enjoy.

dis

only how to find what I enjoy, sage user?

>Im only god at shitposting
Is it just me or are these type of phone auto-correct errors becoming more and more frequent on Veeky Forums as a whole. I feel like I'm losing my mind

for myself the polishing part is long and painful, many times it coincides with the total destruction of the project

>breathing

im fucked

what album is this?

Gonna sound gay, but find your purpose. Even shitposting has a purpose. No one acts without some meaning behind it, just become aware of it. It takes time, just try and think why you are doing something/acting a certain way. Read books, like another user has said: master a craft. Gud luk, bud.