Can one of you help me w/ the following equation?
p^3 - 3p = 4
I'm trying to get back into maths and am stumped.
Can one of you help me w/ the following equation?
p^3 - 3p = 4
I'm trying to get back into maths and am stumped.
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by the rational root test (en.wikipedia.org
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p=2.1958...
p=-1.097...+0.785..i
p=-1.097...-0.785..i
so p^3-3p=4 can be written
(p-2.1958...)(p-1.097...+0.785..i)(p-1.097...-0.785..i)=0
So, you want a step-by-step for [math]p^3 - 3 p = 4[/math]
Answer: [math]p = 1/(2 + sqrt(3))^(1/3) + (2 + sqrt(3))^(1/3) or p = ((-1)^(2/3) - (-1)^(1/3) (2 + sqrt(3))^(2/3))/(2 + sqrt(3))^(1/3) or p = (-1)^(2/3) (2 + sqrt(3))^(1/3) - (sqrt(3) - 2)^(1/3)[/math]
!WORKING IT OUT FO YOSELF!
First Hint: Move everything to the left hand side by subtracting 4 from both sides.
p^3 - 3 p - 4 = 0
Hint: Perform the substitution p = x + λ/x.
Change coordinates by substituting p = x + λ/x, where λ is a constant value that will be determined later: -4 - 3 (x + λ/x) + (x + λ/x)^3 = 0
Hint: Transform the rational equation into a polynomial equation.
Multiply both sides by x^3 and collect in terms of x: x^6 + x^4 (3 λ - 3) - 4 x^3 + x^2 (3 λ^2 - 3 λ) + λ^3 = 0
Hint: Find an appropriate value for λ in order to make the coefficients of x^2 and x^4 both zero.
Substitute λ = 1 and then y = x^3, yielding a quadratic equation in the variable y: y^2 - 4 y + 1 = 0
Hint: Solve for y by finding the positive solution to the quadratic equation: y = 2 + sqrt(3)
Hint: Perform back substitution on y = 2 + sqrt(3), so you gotta substitute back for y = x^3:
x^3 = 2 + sqrt(3)
Hint: Take the cube root of both sides. Taking cube roots gives (2 + sqrt(3))^(1/3) times the third roots of unity:
x = (2 + sqrt(3))^(1/3) or x = -(-2 - sqrt(3))^(1/3) or x = (-1)^(2/3) (2 + sqrt(3))^(1/3)
Hint: Perform back substitution with p = x + 1/x, which means substitute each value of x into p = x + 1/x:
p = 1/(2 + sqrt(3))^(1/3) + (2 + sqrt(3))^(1/3) or p = (-1)^(2/3)/(2 + sqrt(3))^(1/3) - (-2 - sqrt(3))^(1/3) or p = (-1)^(2/3) (2 + sqrt(3))^(1/3) - (-1/(2 + sqrt(3)))^(1/3)
Final Hint: Bring each solution to a common denominator and simplify.
Bleh, how ugly. Forgive me.
Answer: [math]p=\frac{1}{3} \sqrt[3]{54-27 \sqrt{3}}+\sqrt[3]{2+\sqrt{3}}[/math]
Are you sure it's not p^2 - 3p = 4?
If it is, notice that you can re-arrange it to become, p^2 - 3p - 4 = 0, and by inspection of the quadratic we have that -4 are numbers so that -4 + 1 = -3, and -4 * -1 = -4, meaning we can write our quadratic as (p-4)(p+1) = 0, and so the solutions are p = 4, and p = -1.
If its actually a cubic, then note that it has no rational solution, and even by transforming it by putting p = 2*cos(x) into it, we obtain cos(3x) = 2, which has no real solutions.
>If its actually a cubic, then note that it has no rational solution, and even by transforming it by putting p = 2*cos(x) into it, we obtain cos(3x) = 2, which has no real solutions.
>cubic
>no real solutions
im sure you understood the slight error in the context of what i was saying, that cos(3x) = 2 has no real solutions
>that cos(3x) = 2 has no real solutions
Why is that relevant?
>If its actually a cubic
Evaluate your prime statement before depth traversal.
>Evaluate your prime statement before depth traversal.
What's the relevance of cos(3x)=2 having no real solution?
>If
If what?
What's the relevance of cos(3x)=2 having no real solution?
>real
>solution
>if
>relevance?
What's the relevance of cos(3x)=2 having no real solution?
You need a dictionary and a far more autistic outlook on language (protip: maths is a language)
>You need a dictionary and a far more autistic outlook on language (protip: maths is a language)
What's the relevance of cos(3x)=2 having no real solution?
¿Cuál es la relevancia de que cos (3x) = 2 no tenga una solución real?
>¿Cuál es la relevancia de que cos (3x) = 2 no tenga una solución real?
What's the relevance of cos(3x)=2 having no real solution?
(貳,贰,二)沒有真正的解決方案!
=終
>(貳,贰,二)沒有真正的解決方案!
What's the relevance of cos(3x)=2 having no real solution?
Well, thanks a lot for all the help guys! Really appreciate it! :)