If chronic fatigue syndrome isn't real, WTF is this fucking me up?

fuck yr broscience dude i have tried to lift since i got sick, before i got sick i was incredibly fit, this is a real illness
did u even look at what i posted bitch?
8 . lol. i sleep for like 12 hours and am still not alright

You are sleeping too much.
12 hours is also bad for your mental health and is pretty much a symptom of depression.

also got my t tested and it's high
cortisol low tho, and inflammatory cytokines high

I'm not your enemy here, guy, but just take a step back and look at how violently you tried to deny the fact that you were depressed and don't have a psychological illness. I get it, it's a real stigma, but there is a huge body of evidence that suggests depression is not 'just' psychological.

why do all of u assume this shit is depression when there's great evidence otherwise?

man fuck it it doesn't matter anyway i'm killing myself soon but it bugs me that even when u present people with evidence they spout bullshit about this shit

>this is a real illness
then stop shitposting and go to a real doctor maybe?

You probably have a thyroid problem breh

ok, i've had depression before, buddy, and I don't feel any stigma about mental illness. I'm just saying this is qualitatively different and can't be treated the way depression gets treated...

this is the first reasonable response on the thread, i fuck with ray peat and he always says this. but i got a full thyroid panel and nothing was that off
i'm going to a doctor as soon as i can, and have been to one. she prescribed me LDN
anyway i am, i'm just shitposting in the meantime

You should really get a second opinion on the thyroid shit. The "normal ranges" for thyroid hormones are not really informative. Being on the low side of "normal" could still be extremely problematic.

noone?

yeah.. if i remember, i got copies of my lab results cause doctors never take a second look at that shit if it's within "normal" values.
i even got parathyroid. and i think i ran it by someone that really knows

but honestly it seems like the problems in cfs come down to dysfunction in mitochondria caused by something in the blood serum that's as yet unidentified...

you got a chronic infection breh

Yeah, you have a dysfunction with your mitochondria. That's why you are feeling the way you do. It can't possibly be something less batshit insane and within the realm of modern medicine- it's a unique special snowflake disease.

Give me a break.

Coenzyme Q10 boooiiii

23 years old with autoimmune disease; it upped my energy levels after 2 or so months. Not FDA approved for certain things, mixed results in medical studies.

man fuck off, show me some evidence that chronic fatigue syndrome is cured by exercise and cbt /is psychological in origin or just fuck right off. maybe it's not mitochondria, but that's what the study i posted said, and what a number of studies, including ron davis' work at stanford, say. ur being a dick just to be a dick, cause u have no friccin idea
i did have lyme, and all the symptoms started after this..
rn i'm also sick with a cold but worse, like coughing up phlegm and headachey and basically bedridden

i been taking it, and lo and behold there's a study showing cfs ppl have low coq10.

poop transplant

gud idea
although i got some gut bacteria tested, i should probably do more tests

let me tell you this :

you will be on /b/ Veeky Forums and /pol/ forever until you find a different interest

there was a time i was on nutrition, Veeky Forums making broposts, keto, /tv/ etc because those were my interests on doing 'outside world stuff'

now im back. im back because I saw what those were, that anyone else can do them, and realized: fuck what I was doing before was way more interesting.

thats why im replying to ur thread

>i sleep for like 12 hours

This is not a good thing. Oversleeping sometimes has worse effects than undersleeping. Get 8 hours ever day, and (this is important) wake up at the exact same time every day. Never sleep in or your body rhythm will be messed up.

How much of this do you do?

You do know that depression can cause CFS right?

>i'm going to a doctor as soon as i can

You haven't been to one and you are self-diagnosing?

none. i see a nutritionist, i don't smoke weed, don't watch porn, exercise as much as i can, which is still barely anything but it's not normal deconditioning bitch i went from being a six minute/mile runner to barely being able to go on a walk, I quite drinking over a year ago, for real,
i have friends, even a gf

no, i have been to a few, including specialists, i clearly need a follow-up. not self-diagnosing at all, no
citation needed?

you have a mental health disorder and need to be seen by a psychiatrist

i see a psychiatrist in addition to a doctor, bitch and she doesn't think the chronic fatigue syndrome is the result of a psychiatric disorder. you are the one not providing any evidence for your claims

citation needed for CFS being a psychological disease...
the cdc recognizes it as a diseas

Fluconazole, 200mg daily for 50 days.

You'll thank me in 50 days.

you've tried this? intriguing

Check for sleep apnea. Even better do a complete sleep study.
I tought Veeky Forums was a ''''''''''''''smart''''''''''''''' board but having 40+ replies without a suggestion of doing a fucking sleep study proves it is not.

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