I just wanted to share this reading list. Peterson think it is highly relevant and recommend Millennials read this. And i am also wondering what you guys might think of it.
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>In 1999 Routledge published my book, Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief. It was the results of more than fifteen years of work — thousands of hours of obsessive thinking and writing. It was my attempt to deal with the aftermath of Nietzsche’s pronouncement of the Death Of God in his revelatory book, Thus Spake Zarathustra:
>Here are the Russian books I would profoundly recommend, as accompanying readings, as well as a list of books I regard as of the first order of importance:
>Dostoevsky
Crime and Punishment The Brothers Karamazov Notes from Underground The Devils The Idiot
>Tolstoy
Confessions The Kingdom of God is Within You
>Bulgakov
The Master and Margarita
>Solzhenitsyn
One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovitch The Gulag Archipelago The First Circle Cancer Ward Other books of critical importance:
>Carl Jung
The Archetypes of the Collective Unconscious Aion symbols of Transformation Answer to Job Erich Neumann The Origins and History of Consciousness The Great Mother
>George Orwell
1984 The Road to Wigan Pier Animal Farm Down and Out in Paris and London Homage to Catalonia
>Aldous Huxley
Brave New World The Doors of Perception
>Other Works
The Discovery of the Unconscious (Henri Ellenberger) The Neuropsychology of Anxiety (Jeffrey Gray) Affective Neuroscience (Jaak Panksepp) The Emotional Brain (Joseph LeDoux)
I think it's a great attempt to get the white race on the right track. No women. No nonwhites.
Fucking proud to call myself redpilled by Peterson.
Christopher Watson
how can this guy be a fan of nietzsche everything he says would be fucking laughed at by nietzsche
Charles Ward
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Easton Murphy
Seems to align closely to what i see people recommending here, through i havent heard of Solzhenitsyn
Caleb Walker
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Anthony Edwards
woah where'd he come from
Isaac Nelson
cats prefer postmodernism
Jack Sanchez
and marxism
Luke Carter
Can you point to anything in specific?
Caleb Wright
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Michael Ward
He has doors of perception on the list.
You think JS gets fucked up once in a while?
I can see him snort a fat line of coke and fucking some hookers
Luis Jones
Basic, in every ways. The spoonfeeders spoonfeeder.
Christopher Stewart
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Thomas Foster
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Aiden Carter
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Jacob Clark
This. It's just a typical list of classics.
Camden Davis
I don't like the guy. First of all.
Second of all. Why does he have so few psychology books? I actually found a respectable psychology paper by him. Which I didn't expect because he is such a Jung fan which isn't respected anymore in the field of psychology and considered pseudoscientific.
Charles Gutierrez
>Orwell Oh man, that guy HATED leftists!
Grayson Rogers
>trying to "claim" Orwell You're going to lose, you can't get more bourgeois and socially conservative than Orwell.
Jordan Kelly
>bourgeois and socially conservative mutually exclusive
Thomas Ramirez
>Orwell AND Huxley
Holyshit, what a pleb
Nathaniel Howard
>And i am also wondering what you guys might think of it.
Lincoln Hernandez
>Jung fan isn't respected anymore in the field of psychology and considered pseudoscientific.
I'm sure you post this exact same response any time pic related is mentioned.
Isaac Baker
Yes it is due to my castration anxiety
Jayden Bell
Many of Freud's ideas and concepts are actually still relevant in psychology and tremendously so in the humanities
None of Jung's are however, he contributed nothing of value.
James Smith
>Many of Freud's ideas and concepts are actually still relevant in psychology and tremendously so in the humanities Sssuuurreeeeee
Zachary Kelly
In the humanities he's still a titan, thats indisputable. In Psychology he's facing a renaissance in interest as he is being vindicated over the flawed frameworks of the cognitive-behaviourists in the wake of Neuroscience
Jung is some whacky dude that liked to talk about shadows and dragons and make personality tests
Jacob Anderson
I suspect more along the line of impotence, are you worried that Psychology isn't nearly as scientific as you first thought?
Let me get this right, your saying: Art therapy, Persona theory, Complex's and archetypes aren't of value? even though all are widely practised in multiple disciplines?
Jacob Ward
All Oprah tier self help tier rubbish yeah, not even memeing
Leo Jackson
Art therapy is okay, sure. Archetypes, etc is actively harmful to a person's concept of free will and is thus rubbish
Austin Smith
“One repays a teacher badly if one always remains nothing but a pupil.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra
Brody Wilson
Its more than that, its harmful to a person's concept of reality
Ryder Robinson
At least you provide some sources but couldn't it be some actual papers instead of these walls of text - I don't mean that to attack you
Carter Gonzalez
This is what I don't get about this fucking hack (and american academia) as a whole: You people are willing to claim Freud, a fucking intellectual MONSTER, has been "disproved" and that he's a hack and whatnot.
Meanwhile, some canadian fuck who actually writes self-help shit hails Jung and suddenly you're all on his dick.
Are you people, as a country, retarded?
Evan Ramirez
I'm not that qualified dude
William Morales
Jung's theory on personality types is still widely studied and used today, Jungian archetypes popularity is easily observed, you see it utilized everywhere including in Media Studies, Synchronicity? that's now called and referred to as non-causal events, Individuation? widely bastardised poorly in Clinical psychology, 0/10 would not recommend. Complexes are used colloquially everywhere and are starting to see use in Academia (again).
Pretty sure literature studies love the guy too, his shadow shit which I personally know nothing about is incredibly popular in fiction.
Not who you're replying to, but I doubt you'll accept any of the writers currently influenced by Freud in say, aesthetics, dismissing them all as "unfalsifiable nonsense" or whatever.
Brody Bailey
Ok. Fastly skimming through them it just says they are using neuroscience to test some ideas of psychoanalysis. I think you make more out of it than there is, but thanks anyway.
Ayden Kelly
Nice try but people have been on Jung's dick since 2009 when the Red book got published.
Ian Nguyen
Holyshit what a whore, by the description its obvious he's trying to worm into the Televangelist market
Ian Butler
I know Jungian archetypes are also widely utilized in comparative mythology and religion.
Brandon Clark
Jung didn't invent the idea of archtypes, his description of them is a far more specific mechanism and shouldn't be held synonymously
Leo Howard
You realize he has been doing the whole online stuff long before he got popularity for calling trigger warnings retarded right?
Gavin Ross
I bet this pleb reads Russian literature in translation
Carter Wilson
Yeah its obvious the fact he's specifically getting funded to do weekly talks on the Bible he's just a disguised preacher
Isaac Foster
Nah, Peterson was the type of weak pussy Nietzsche would have despised
Jonathan Foster
[nods head mechanically] Right, it's used in media theory, because most people think their personality is finite so categorizing an audience is quite easy, however I n trying to reach your own full potential it's advisable not to categorize yourself and instead to exercise your free will to the fullest extent.
Jackson Moore
He literally invented the concept of the subconscious.
Parker Perez
More important than that, its important to recognize nothing is truly categoirizable fundamentally. It undermines your very ability to recognize the phenomenological particularity of every experience that is intrinsic to great writing
Logan Reyes
But Peterson is a Atheist and negatively called Christianity a cult of Archetypical evolution.
He believes they however read like a good fantasy book, useful as literature to study the development of ideology.
Oliver Kelly
The fact he doesn't drinks the oil he peddles doesnt make him better
Carter Allen
>Dr Jordan B Peterson is creating lectures about profound psychological ideas
Joshua Cruz
Pleb list, Peterson confirmed for not being well-read
Anthony Myers
Peterson is the Carl Jung of our day.
Bentley Myers
Now that we can all get behind
Lucas Morris
You didn't refute what he said.
Evan Garcia
but how did he get popular? precisely by peddling his politically charged bs in a politically uncertain climate and making 25k a month while doing it.
Austin Torres
He actually got popular because he said banning the criticism of Feminism would stifle academic freedom and freedom of speech.
Fuck off back to r/samharris with you.
Gabriel Bennett
>got popular because he said banning the criticism of Feminism would stifle academic freedom and freedom of speech >peddling his politically charged bs in a politically uncertain climate
>It should be illegal to criticise feminism This is your mind on liberalism.
Aaron Gutierrez
>hurr let's just include every Russian writer on an introductory reading list Kill yourself, Slavshit
Eli Torres
>Yeah! Sam Harris is a pleb! I'm into REAL thinkers like Peterson! Idiot.
Oliver Jones
*tips*
Grayson Lewis
Or maybe lets include at least one book that isn't included in every 'best of' list ever. But that would require Petersen to have read more than the status quo, which, other than his boner for the Solo-Neet, he clearly hasn't
Joseph Ramirez
He confirmed in an interview that he's used psychedelics in the past. I don't know about the other stuff, though.
Parker Cox
>being mad at other people's success Can you tell me how being an opportunist is bad? I want to understand.
Alexander Peterson
The biggest millennial dilettantes have read nothing more than 1984 and Brave New World and STILL think Donald Trump is the biggest threat to this nation
Gabriel Brooks
fucking commie
Nathaniel Brown
They think he's receiving $20k/mo solely for uploading lectures he would've done anyway, but its actually going towards multiple projects including sponsoring research on reducing stress for business workers, fighting depression using literary techniques, multiple podcasts and blogs etc.
Asher Long
>including sponsoring research on reducing stress for business workers, fighting depression using literary techniques
lel I can't believe you buy this shit
Luis Nguyen
Jordan Peterson is a hero of free speech, I don't see how anyone who isn't a SJW could hate him.
Cameron White
You realize like most of his published papers aren't anything like his videos right?
Maybe it's not inherently bad, but based on the content he's pushing it seems he's using the politically charged issues such as identity politics, etc. to push a false narrative about postmodernism, Marxism, etc. He's selling an identity that his followers use merely to fight the illusory strawmen his fallacious arguments are based on.
Camden James
That doesn't explain why being an opportunist is bad.
Julian King
I don't claim that being an opportunist is bad, i'm claiming Peterson's form of opportunism is bad.
Nicholas Rivera
Wrong retard. Proletariat in many countries are often off the rails while middle class and up are stiff biscuits.
Camden Gonzalez
Why is he suggesting Orwell? I thought he detested socialists.
Ian Ward
What did people think of Harris' second podcast with Peterson?
Josiah Moore
Orwell was only a socialist when convenient in Spain. He is closer to an anarchist like Noam Chomsky. He was a progressive liberal not a socialist. Part of this was his bigotry towards Irish people and culture, like Bill Maher and Middle Eastern people that are practicing Muslims.
Nathan Anderson
Its almost as if you can be a socialist and also have profound critiques of socialism at the same time
Camden Phillips
BTFO
Oliver Flores
He wasn't progressive in many other aspects either, he actually held many social darwinism tendencies.
Blake Hall
Was also a confirmed collaborator with the imperialist crown, specifically in targeting actual (and imagined) leftists.
Austin Clark
I've got a batshit retarded theory nobody should subscribe to that Orwell was actually deeply connected to the Occult community, who employed the exact same tactics of pretending to be leftists of various strains, embedding themselves into various anti-imperialist communities and reporting everything back to the crown.
Seriously its actually hilarious to read about how basically every Occultist was reporting on each other to the British government.
Jason James
That's a nice bite sized narrative you have there. Have you ever considered that the only people who would donate to his Patron would be the ones who agree with his ideas the most?
Is there a problem with people paying for content they desire?
Adrian Thompson
I mean, he did write up a list of suspected communists for MI5...
Julian Gonzalez
I don't know who this guy is.
I've read most of those books, minus Jung. Was there some realization I'm supposed to come to?
William Mitchell
Meme author. And yet, this is a meme thread.
Cooper Cook
>Maybe it's not inherently bad, but based on the content he's pushing it seems he's using the politically charged issues such as identity politics, etc. to push a false narrative about postmodernism, Marxism, etc.
Because other professors don't push false narratives about what Foucault, Lacan, Derrida, Adorno mean? Particularly in terms of political programs? I agree that Peterson doesn't grapple with what these philosophers have written, but that isn't necessarily what he's concerned about and reacting to: instead, he's fashioning an alternative narrative of poststructuralism and critical theory in place of the vulgarization that has been done to it by mediocre postcolonial and queer theory thinkers and the like.
I do wish he would more seriously engage Foucault and Lacan, though, it would make him more convincing. You'd think he would at least be able to develop an actual critique of Lacan, given his background in psychology.
Kayden Price
Of course people who already agree with him will be the ones paying for his content, that's my whole point.
>Is there a problem with people paying for content they desire?
No, there isn't. The problem is he is creating and promoting a false narrative on topics such as Marxism and postmodernism and selling it as fact.
Austin Cook
How is the gulag archipelago?
Angel Perry
Dude, his whole objective is to discredit any of the thinkers he broadly labels 'postmodern' or 'Marxist' with his narrative so that no one will take them seriously in the first place.
James Barnes
Authoritarianism is bad.
Bentley Thomas
There are whole Jungian grad institutes. He's hardly discredited. And if you read Peterson you'd know why he never will be. Fucking STEM fag.
Jason Young
Could you source any of his instance directed to this thinkers and how he discredit them?