Jordan Peterson Suggested Reading List for Millennials

jordanbpeterson.com/2016/11/maps-of-meaning-intro

I just wanted to share this reading list. Peterson think it is highly relevant and recommend Millennials read this. And i am also wondering what you guys might think of it.

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>In 1999 Routledge published my book, Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief. It was the results of more than fifteen years of work — thousands of hours of obsessive thinking and writing. It was my attempt to deal with the aftermath of Nietzsche’s pronouncement of the Death Of God in his revelatory book, Thus Spake Zarathustra:

>Here are the Russian books I would profoundly recommend, as accompanying readings, as well as a list of books I regard as of the first order of importance:

>Dostoevsky

Crime and Punishment
The Brothers Karamazov
Notes from Underground
The Devils
The Idiot

>Tolstoy

Confessions
The Kingdom of God is Within You

>Bulgakov

The Master and Margarita

>Solzhenitsyn

One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovitch
The Gulag Archipelago
The First Circle
Cancer Ward
Other books of critical importance:

>Carl Jung

The Archetypes of the Collective Unconscious
Aion
symbols of Transformation
Answer to Job
Erich Neumann
The Origins and History of Consciousness
The Great Mother

>George Orwell

1984
The Road to Wigan Pier
Animal Farm
Down and Out in Paris and London
Homage to Catalonia

>Aldous Huxley

Brave New World
The Doors of Perception

>Other Works

The Discovery of the Unconscious (Henri Ellenberger)
The Neuropsychology of Anxiety (Jeffrey Gray)
Affective Neuroscience (Jaak Panksepp)
The Emotional Brain (Joseph LeDoux)

Other urls found in this thread:

nytimes.com/2015/06/28/magazine/tell-it-about-your-mother.html
discovermagazine.com/2014/april/14-the-second-coming-of-sigmund-freud
patreon.com/jordanbpeterson
palgrave-journals.com/articles/palcomms201514
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

dumping rare Derridas

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I think it's a great attempt to get the white race on the right track. No women. No nonwhites.

Fucking proud to call myself redpilled by Peterson.

how can this guy be a fan of nietzsche everything he says would be fucking laughed at by nietzsche

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Seems to align closely to what i see people recommending here, through i havent heard of
Solzhenitsyn

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woah where'd he come from

cats prefer postmodernism

and marxism

Can you point to anything in specific?

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He has doors of perception on the list.

You think JS gets fucked up once in a while?

I can see him snort a fat line of coke and fucking some hookers

Basic, in every ways.
The spoonfeeders spoonfeeder.

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This. It's just a typical list of classics.

I don't like the guy. First of all.

Second of all. Why does he have so few psychology books? I actually found a respectable psychology paper by him. Which I didn't expect because he is such a Jung fan which isn't respected anymore in the field of psychology and considered pseudoscientific.

>Orwell
Oh man, that guy HATED leftists!

>trying to "claim" Orwell
You're going to lose, you can't get more bourgeois and socially conservative than Orwell.

>bourgeois and socially conservative
mutually exclusive

>Orwell AND Huxley

Holyshit, what a pleb

>And i am also wondering what you guys might think of it.

>Jung fan isn't respected anymore in the field of psychology and considered pseudoscientific.

I'm sure you post this exact same response any time pic related is mentioned.

Yes it is due to my castration anxiety

Many of Freud's ideas and concepts are actually still relevant in psychology and tremendously so in the humanities

None of Jung's are however, he contributed nothing of value.

>Many of Freud's ideas and concepts are actually still relevant in psychology and tremendously so in the humanities
Sssuuurreeeeee

In the humanities he's still a titan, thats indisputable.
In Psychology he's facing a renaissance in interest as he is being vindicated over the flawed frameworks of the cognitive-behaviourists in the wake of Neuroscience

nytimes.com/2015/06/28/magazine/tell-it-about-your-mother.html
discovermagazine.com/2014/april/14-the-second-coming-of-sigmund-freud

Jung is some whacky dude that liked to talk about shadows and dragons and make personality tests

I suspect more along the line of impotence, are you worried that Psychology isn't nearly as scientific as you first thought?

Let me get this right, your saying: Art therapy, Persona theory, Complex's and archetypes aren't of value? even though all are widely practised in multiple disciplines?

All Oprah tier self help tier rubbish yeah, not even memeing

Art therapy is okay, sure. Archetypes, etc is actively harmful to a person's concept of free will and is thus rubbish

“One repays a teacher badly if one always remains nothing but a pupil.”

― Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra

Its more than that, its harmful to a person's concept of reality

At least you provide some sources but couldn't it be some actual papers instead of these walls of text - I don't mean that to attack you

This is what I don't get about this fucking hack (and american academia) as a whole:
You people are willing to claim Freud, a fucking intellectual MONSTER, has been "disproved" and that he's a hack and whatnot.

Meanwhile, some canadian fuck who actually writes self-help shit hails Jung and suddenly you're all on his dick.

Are you people, as a country, retarded?

I'm not that qualified dude

Jung's theory on personality types is still widely studied and used today, Jungian archetypes popularity is easily observed, you see it utilized everywhere including in Media Studies, Synchronicity? that's now called and referred to as non-causal events, Individuation? widely bastardised poorly in Clinical psychology, 0/10 would not recommend. Complexes are used colloquially everywhere and are starting to see use in Academia (again).

Pretty sure literature studies love the guy too, his shadow shit which I personally know nothing about is incredibly popular in fiction.

dude, this nigga has a patreon

patreon.com/jordanbpeterson

what an opportunistic scumbag

>walls of text
these are called articles

Not who you're replying to, but I doubt you'll accept any of the writers currently influenced by Freud in say, aesthetics, dismissing them all as "unfalsifiable nonsense" or whatever.

Ok. Fastly skimming through them it just says they are using neuroscience to test some ideas of psychoanalysis.
I think you make more out of it than there is, but thanks anyway.

Nice try but people have been on Jung's dick since 2009 when the Red book got published.

Holyshit what a whore, by the description its obvious he's trying to worm into the Televangelist market

I know Jungian archetypes are also widely utilized in comparative mythology and religion.

Jung didn't invent the idea of archtypes, his description of them is a far more specific mechanism and shouldn't be held synonymously

You realize he has been doing the whole online stuff long before he got popularity for calling trigger warnings retarded right?

I bet this pleb reads Russian literature in translation

Yeah its obvious the fact he's specifically getting funded to do weekly talks on the Bible he's just a disguised preacher

Nah, Peterson was the type of weak pussy Nietzsche would have despised

[nods head mechanically]
Right, it's used in media theory, because most people think their personality is finite so categorizing an audience is quite easy, however I n trying to reach your own full potential it's advisable not to categorize yourself and instead to exercise your free will to the fullest extent.

He literally invented the concept of the subconscious.

More important than that, its important to recognize nothing is truly categoirizable fundamentally. It undermines your very ability to recognize the phenomenological particularity of every experience that is intrinsic to great writing

But Peterson is a Atheist and negatively called Christianity a cult of Archetypical evolution.

He believes they however read like a good fantasy book, useful as literature to study the development of ideology.

The fact he doesn't drinks the oil he peddles doesnt make him better

>Dr Jordan B Peterson is creating lectures about profound psychological ideas

Pleb list, Peterson confirmed for not being well-read

Peterson is the Carl Jung of our day.

Now that we can all get behind

You didn't refute what he said.

but how did he get popular? precisely by peddling his politically charged bs in a politically uncertain climate and making 25k a month while doing it.

He actually got popular because he said banning the criticism of Feminism would stifle academic freedom and freedom of speech.

Fuck off back to r/samharris with you.

>got popular because he said banning the criticism of Feminism would stifle academic freedom and freedom of speech
>peddling his politically charged bs in a politically uncertain climate

So you agree, got it

>Russian Veeky Forums
>No Gogol
>No Pushkin
>No Lermontov

Kermit confirmed for pleb.

>It should be illegal to criticise feminism
This is your mind on liberalism.

>hurr let's just include every Russian writer on an introductory reading list
Kill yourself, Slavshit

>Yeah! Sam Harris is a pleb! I'm into REAL thinkers like Peterson!
Idiot.

*tips*

Or maybe lets include at least one book that isn't included in every 'best of' list ever. But that would require Petersen to have read more than the status quo, which, other than his boner for the Solo-Neet, he clearly hasn't

He confirmed in an interview that he's used psychedelics in the past. I don't know about the other stuff, though.

>being mad at other people's success
Can you tell me how being an opportunist is bad? I want to understand.

The biggest millennial dilettantes have read nothing more than 1984 and Brave New World and STILL think Donald Trump is the biggest threat to this nation

fucking commie

They think he's receiving $20k/mo solely for uploading lectures he would've done anyway, but its actually going towards multiple projects including sponsoring research on reducing stress for business workers, fighting depression using literary techniques, multiple podcasts and blogs etc.

>including sponsoring research on reducing stress for business workers, fighting depression using literary techniques

lel I can't believe you buy this shit

Jordan Peterson is a hero of free speech, I don't see how anyone who isn't a SJW could hate him.

You realize like most of his published papers aren't anything like his videos right?

palgrave-journals.com/articles/palcomms201514

Wowzer look at this Alt-Right neo nazi!

Maybe it's not inherently bad, but based on the content he's pushing it seems he's using the politically charged issues such as identity politics, etc. to push a false narrative about postmodernism, Marxism, etc. He's selling an identity that his followers use merely to fight the illusory strawmen his fallacious arguments are based on.

That doesn't explain why being an opportunist is bad.

I don't claim that being an opportunist is bad, i'm claiming Peterson's form of opportunism is bad.

Wrong retard. Proletariat in many countries are often off the rails while middle class and up are stiff biscuits.

Why is he suggesting Orwell? I thought he detested socialists.

What did people think of Harris' second podcast with Peterson?

Orwell was only a socialist when convenient in Spain. He is closer to an anarchist like Noam Chomsky. He was a progressive liberal not a socialist. Part of this was his bigotry towards Irish people and culture, like Bill Maher and Middle Eastern people that are practicing Muslims.

Its almost as if you can be a socialist and also have profound critiques of socialism at the same time

BTFO

He wasn't progressive in many other aspects either, he actually held many social darwinism tendencies.

Was also a confirmed collaborator with the imperialist crown, specifically in targeting actual (and imagined) leftists.

I've got a batshit retarded theory nobody should subscribe to that Orwell was actually deeply connected to the Occult community, who employed the exact same tactics of pretending to be leftists of various strains, embedding themselves into various anti-imperialist communities and reporting everything back to the crown.

Seriously its actually hilarious to read about how basically every Occultist was reporting on each other to the British government.

That's a nice bite sized narrative you have there.
Have you ever considered that the only people who would donate to his Patron would be the ones who agree with his ideas the most?

Is there a problem with people paying for content they desire?

I mean, he did write up a list of suspected communists for MI5...

I don't know who this guy is.

I've read most of those books, minus Jung. Was there some realization I'm supposed to come to?

Meme author. And yet, this is a meme thread.

>Maybe it's not inherently bad, but based on the content he's pushing it seems he's using the politically charged issues such as identity politics, etc. to push a false narrative about postmodernism, Marxism, etc.

Because other professors don't push false narratives about what Foucault, Lacan, Derrida, Adorno mean? Particularly in terms of political programs? I agree that Peterson doesn't grapple with what these philosophers have written, but that isn't necessarily what he's concerned about and reacting to: instead, he's fashioning an alternative narrative of poststructuralism and critical theory in place of the vulgarization that has been done to it by mediocre postcolonial and queer theory thinkers and the like.

I do wish he would more seriously engage Foucault and Lacan, though, it would make him more convincing. You'd think he would at least be able to develop an actual critique of Lacan, given his background in psychology.

Of course people who already agree with him will be the ones paying for his content, that's my whole point.

>Is there a problem with people paying for content they desire?

No, there isn't. The problem is he is creating and promoting a false narrative on topics such as Marxism and postmodernism and selling it as fact.

How is the gulag archipelago?

Dude, his whole objective is to discredit any of the thinkers he broadly labels 'postmodern' or 'Marxist' with his narrative so that no one will take them seriously in the first place.

Authoritarianism is bad.

There are whole Jungian grad institutes. He's hardly discredited. And if you read Peterson you'd know why he never will be. Fucking STEM fag.

Could you source any of his instance directed to this thinkers and how he discredit them?