First year math major. Quick question; Why is Calculus considered to be math?
Literally a monkey could learn to integrate and derivate. I can't believe I'm wasting time on this shit.
>pic semi-related. This is what i do instead of calculus.
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Ethan Kelly
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Isaac Edwards
>he thinks being good at eu4 is impressive
holy shit cuck
Jayden Cruz
Prove existance and uniqueness of integrals and derivatives then. See if your monkey brain can do it without help or external resources.
Calc1 is for engineers that don't need math in their life but need to know what an integral is, not for mathematicians. They just get forced in there because it would be too expensive to have a separate calc for mathematicians class.
Colton Cruz
>first year math major
lel
Ayden Lewis
wait, americans shit tons of money for uni and don't even get separate classes? TURBO LOL
Chase Jones
Yea, was also surprised to see that when I got here.
>tfw my calc 1 in .de was still shit in retrospect
Lincoln Wood
>Prove existance and uniqueness of integrals and derivatives then
it's hard to prove an incorrect statement
Easton Sanchez
Uniqueness up to an additive constant for you autistic math fucks then
Nathan Evans
no one proves this in calculus, although uniqueness is obvious. existence and fundamental properties are usually proved in a first course in analysis
stop wasting time. learn analysis while learning calculus, so when you take analysis you can learn even higher stuff. honestly, work hard.
James Wood
>derivate
also
>taking calculus in college
>math major
lol good luck
James Torres
and the existence part ? existence of what exactly
Caleb Hernandez
probably something retarded like
>derivatives exist for differentiable functions
and something not so retarded like
>integrals exist for continuous functions
Jason Evans
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Charles Torres
>no one proves this in calculus,
maybe not at your shitty "college", pajeet
Ryan Brooks
>no one proves this in calculus
Which college for brainlets do you go to?
Adam Mitchell
That's like literally my calc2 class tho, minus some ODEs
Alexander Cox
Yes, something 'retarded' like this. Still needs to be proven. When you're done with that, look at lebesgue integrals and measure theory.
Zachary Johnson
OP here.
The name of the course is actually "Analysis in one variable", so i guess that it's closer to analysis than actual engineering calculus. I'm not sure of the difference though. Swecuck here.
Don't know the difference tho, what surprised me most is that i did all this shit in high school, went through the definitions of both derivatives and integrals, and the fundamental theorem of calculus, Riemann sums etc.
Isn't that calculus, or am i completly unaware of how the american educationsystem works?
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Landon Morris
>derivate
Ah yes, such enlightened intelligence has rarely graced this board
Isaiah Scott
#capitalism
It just werks lol
Nathaniel Baker
And to add on my post; I'm mostly fond of proving and i really developed a love for more abstract math. In some way, it isn't as mechanical as analysis/calculus.
Maybe its me doing babby-tier analysis right now, it'll hopefully grow into something more interesting.
Jacob Davis
>Don't know the difference tho, what surprised me most is that i did all this shit in high school, went through the definitions of both derivatives and integrals, and the fundamental theorem of calculus, Riemann sums etc.
.de poster again, calc/analysis 1 is nothing new compared to what you learned in school. However, you will do things way more rigurously. It used to be customary to start by the set theory axioms, construct the natural numbers from those, then get to Q and finally construct R. By that time at least half the semester is over and you spend the rest of the time talking about derivatives, then integrals.
My calc 1 was kinda different since we started with derivatives and never really talked about what real numbers are until calc 3 for some reason.
Landon Clark
Take linear algebra, that has a lot of proofs from day 1. Most of them are easy too.
And the older I get the more I feel like algebra is where the really interesting shit happens.
Grayson Diaz
It was something among those lines i imagined it to be, but it turned out to be wayy less rigorous then our algebra class we had before.
I mean, 80% of the algebra course was actual proving, which is the part of math i appreciate. But as i said before, its probably a babby-tier class. The fun will probably come later.
But i see where the rigourusness comes from. I honestly feel that it could be more rigorous as my algebra teacher was basically a facist when it came to formulating proofs, while our analysis teacher handwaves through them
i totally agree. I started with linear algebra not so long ago. I appreciate it much more, but im lagging a bit behind in analysis so i have to catch up. Went a bit too much ahead and started looking into some deeper group theory and stuff that was a bit over the introduction to algebra class we took.
I guess you have to build slowly.
Leo Garcia
>I guess you have to build slowly.
It took me approximately one year after writing the final until I actually understood a class.
Analysis 3 (measure theory in .de) was great, highly recommend that one.
Chase Green
there's engineering calculus and there's math's calculus. you probably go to a brainlet school
Owen Turner
I wish i was as smart as you OP.
Liam Sullivan
>playing EU4 instead of far superior EU3
sliders and minting >>>> RPG monarch points and SJW progressives
Michael Powell
If you can prove it, then you understand compacity, uniform convergence and so on. Thats not calculus
Caleb Sanchez
>convergence
>not calculus
Feels great not to be a brainlet
Ian Gray
Asher Barnes
OP here. Oh shit this is gold thank you very much. Printed it out and working through it.