Childhood is believing in Hitchens

Childhood is believing in Hitchens
Adulthood is realizing Christ is Lord
Godhood is discovering the Demiurge

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Adulthood is not living your life based on storytime from an age when asking questions got you killed, and just accepting the uncertainty that we all have to live with.

Faith-based reasoning is slowing down our species. Shut your retard hole and let the adults talk.

All reasoning is faith based. Nothing is absolutely certain.

A triangle has three sides. I don't need faith to reason that.

I too went through a gnosticism phase in my teenage years

more demiurge memes?

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>Childhood is being an alt right teenage pol shitlord
>Adulthood is realising Marx was right and the Bourgeoisie are the real enemy
>Godhood is discovering the spiritual truth of Esoteric Hitlerism, feeling the Spirit flow through you and realising Adolf Hitler was the 10th and last avatar of Lord Vishnu

Hitler failed to usher in the new Golden Age of the regenerate Aryan race. Pretty sure the Esoteric Hitlerists (all 6 of them) believe Hitler prefigures Kalki.

What makes you think Hitler is dead and not just hiding or something? Perhaps, He is just hiding and will return when the celestial bodies enter into the appropriate alignment.

what makes you think he is in hiding?

Given he was born in 1889 and would be 128 years old, the safe assumption is that he is dead.

Gnostic Schmostic

>Krishna never appears to grow old or age at all in the historical depictions of the Puranas despite passing of several decades, but there are grounds for a debate whether this indicates that he has no material body, since battles and other descriptions of the Mahabhārata epic show clear indications that he seems to be subject to the limitations of nature.[93] While battles apparently seem to indicate limitations, Mahabharata also shows in many places where Krishna is not subject to any limitations through episodes Duryodhana trying to arrest Krishna where his body burst into fire showing all creation within him.[94] Krishna is also explicitly described as without deterioration elsewhere.[95]

You need faith to believe your sensory perceptions correspond to real objects and not just illusions.

>I don't need faith to reason that a triangle has three sides
Have you ever actually watched a triangle on your life? Like, a triangle. Not something that has the form of a triangle.

Of course you haven't. You accepted that things with three sides are triangles. You made a leap of faith in order to accept that.

gosh

Yes, but only the most basic and necessary kind of "faith," i.e. loyalty to and faith in yourself. "Faith" itself is nothing unless you use it.

Faith is faith. The only difference being, "how much" faith you have in 'x'.

Childhood is believing in god because your psycho family forced you to.
Adulthood is becoming a fedora tip atheist or someshit like that.
Godhood is not giving a fuck while you numb yourself with carbs, Veeky Forums shitpposting, degenerate porn and shakespeare plays while waiting for a better tomorrow aka areligious

t. still in high school

>Godhood is discovering the Demiurge
>implying there is an evil worldsmith
Your resolution to the problem of evil is fallacious. Godhood is realising that evil is simply the absence of goodness. Absolute evil cannot exist because absolute evil is the negation of existence, ergo nothing. Satan is at least good at something.

Did you even read Plotinus? Fucking pseud.

>ITT: Is-Ought teenie weenies
>ITT: "Reason shall prevail!!" brainlets. In the words of Luther "Reason is a whore."
>tfw people don't realize that evil stems from the desire to have something, which would not apply to a God that is everything.

>triangle
>3
>sides

Your perception of it, maybe. What if a triangle has four sides in another dimension though?

That's called a tetraeder

Pls, draw something with three angles that isn't a triangle.

No matter what he draws, it will consist of square pixels when zoomed in far enough, and is therefore not an actual triangle but merely a conglomerate of small squares.

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>Hart’s primary interlocutor is Ivan from Dostoyevsky’s The Brothers Karamazov. Ivan gives voice to the most challenging rejection of theodicy that there is, much more cutting, profound, and troubling than that uttered by any God-hating New Atheist. Ivan believes in theodicy, he believes that in the end God will show us why all this evil was necessary, that God will show us His work when it comes to the moral calculus of allowing so much evil and suffering, and it will all make perfect sense. All that being true, Ivan will still respectfully return his ticket to heaven, because he wants no place in a heaven that was purchased with the blood of innocent children. He wants nothing to do with a God who in any way needs such evil. Ivan damns the god of theodicy to his heaven, the cost of admission is too high for him to accept it in good conscience. And we Christians must do the same.

>Any theodicy, however brilliantly constructed, that justifies the necessity of evil for God has made a deal with the Devil.

>Now we are able to rejoice that we are saved not through the immanent mechanisms of history and nature, but by grace; that God will not unite all of history’s many strands in one great synthesis, but will judge much of history false and damnable; that he will not simply reveal the sublime logic of fallen nature, but will stroke off the fetters in which creation languishes; and that, rather than showing us how the tears of a small girl suffering in the dark were necessary for the building of the Kingdom, he will instead raise her up and wipe away all tears from her eyes – and there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying, nor any pain, for the former things will have passed away, and he that sits upon the throne says, ‘Behold, I make all things new.

Reminder that all facets of Epistemology trigger hysteric fits in the external world unless they are in line with mainstream Epistemology which immediately boils down to power. There is no meaningful difference between Reason and Empiricism, the only decisive factor in which mode of thinking is right and which one is wrong is its yielding, or lack thereof, to this power. Follow the threads of power in the external world and you will quickly see that they all converge in a point far past Darwinian phantasmagoria, money, Daoist tempests, or even absurdity itself.

Realize that Mind is a zero-sum game. If you're not doing the thinking then something else is.

So is the demierge real or not

Is there some form of higher power that isn't god or whatever or are we seriously just a cosmic coincidence and if so what the hell started the cosmos because my brain cannot fathom something that has no beginning so i seriously don't know what is going on and these questions and lack of answers keep me awake

>Realize that Mind is a zero-sum game. If you're not doing the thinking then something else is.

What did he mean by this?

What do you mean by this?

u srsly deriving is from ought right now?
plebs when will they learn

Thinking and speaking in word clusters you did not arrange, for example, as most Materialists do. Exclusively thinking in words and word arrangements sanctioned by the external world. Some bodily slaves can be Mentally free, whereas all Mental slaves are bound through and through.

>Innocent
>wants to kill people for thoughts
???

that actually makes a lot of sense, even lines up with some of robert anton wilsons work

Also be weary of images. Note how many modes of expression, like superposition, are all but forbidden. Ask yourself why this is.

>superposition, are all but forbidden.

by who? art police?

at least get the meme right

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Go to bed Euclid

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I want Reddit pseudointellectuals to leave.

axioms are based in faith, the properties of all geometric shapes are derived from axioms, notably those of Euclides.

>he thinks questioning the authenticity of scientific empiricism is Reddit; the edgy "bill nye SCIENCE RULES!!" room-temperature IQ hivemind.

Back to le reddit you blind sheep

>He arbitrarily believes that "progress" and "efficiency" are important
>muh capitalism/democratism/"""rationalism"""/empiricism
>muh "isms" (modern idols)

Once you peek behind the veils of the "isms" you will find they are all just filled with Nothingness, and that you are left to confront nihilism in a lifelong struggle. When this happens you will beg for all encompassing faith you poor modernized worker bee.

>He thinks convoluted, abstract pseudointellectual drivel qualifies as the valid critique of empiricism

Why not just hang yourself senpai? You can't get any more pathetic than this.

Adulthood is realizing humanity is a narcisstic lonely race living on a mad blue rock completely obsessed with the ideas in it's echo chamber that spiral into complexity merely so we all don't get so bored.

sounds like something an edgy teenage nihilist would say desu senpai

>He thinks empiricism has the answers

It doesn't get any more Aspie than this. Hide your resentment for those that can comfortably discuss the abstract. Explode into moral reproach little guy.

You only accept Empiricism if its results are in line with the Givens that bind your Mind, as you do with all other modes of knowing. You would much rather forsake yourself than forsake these Givens should Empiricism tell you something incongruent with them.

>Earth is an echo chamber

sounds more like your adulthood and my teenage years.

Check out Glenn Gould's interviews and lectures, they're very Gnostic. He talks about rejecting all the prescribed information surrounding a piece of Music, including its History, and playing it in his own (new) way, often times relating to a Noumenal framework. Through his obsession with Bach and harmonic formalism means the application of his arguments are of little to no relevance for most people, and rightfully so, you only have to compare his interpretations to pre-Gould Bach to realize the how big of a leap this is.

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>evil is simply the absence of goodness
"God is omnibenevolent and omnipresent! Except for where he's omnipresent and yet he's absent and there's evil!"

>Did you even read Plotinus?
He couldn't explain how an overabundance of good came to create evil and struggled throughout his writing.

>evil stems from the desire to have something
Like what, saving faith? The mercy and love of God?

Some discussion over here.

>Like what, saving faith? The mercy and love of God?

Faith is never saved, only moved elsewhere. Even the nihilist has faith that he could be wrong, else he wouldn't feed into the ego's illusion that one ought to be somewhere else at every given moment; he would starve to death in a vegetative state. Religion was stripped into two halves; a connection with God and a connection with other men. The ethos, or connection with other men is all we see, and so one might assume that religion "caused" evil in the form of violence, that is, assuming that humanity is something that ought to be preserved which requires an act of faith in and of itself. A connection to god is the fundamental of religion, but we've stripped it away and filled it with a plethora of other axioms that often contradict each other with in time.

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Post-Godhood is realising you are the Demiurge.

Honestly, I despised religion as a child. Especially Christianity. The only religions I ever appreciated and studied were mostly Eastern, along with the Greeks. And those weren't even real "religion", but schools of thought. It took me up til about a year ago to realize so is Christianity and Muslim, these "organized religions" were the same thing, just schools of thought. I realized my problem didn't lie in the religion, but in the people ignorantly followed the texts as literal law, literal being the key word. Because when you pay attention to Christianity, and stop believing it to be interpreted as literal history and understand it as the literary work it is, you can finally see the all the metaphors, the allusions, the implications. You see that what it comes down to is a very humbling and honest message of peace and prosperity intended to be indulged on a grand scale to bring about peace on earth. On a the spiritual, metaphorical side of the religion. But people still decide to take as much of it as literary as they can, closing their eyes to the very appealing and comforting idea behind it. And it honestly takes an adult, or esoterically, developed sense of being to realize what it's all saying and what it all means and that believing in it does nothing but bring you comfort, sincerity, and a level of childlike innocence.

Some gruesome implications of "immortality":

This is just wordplay though. You defined an object as having three sides and then claim that you have "discovered" something when you turn around and find that indeed it still has three sides.

>cosmic paranoia
>godhood

The concept of paranoia is an integral part of Archonic dialectics.

LOL take a look at this infidel here! Peeked beyond the veils of 'isms' have we? Spied Nothingness and saw through it did we? Existence is hard so better to sit back and be told what to do by someone who gained moral superiority over you by putting on a dress.

please return to reddit

Even more discussion:

>"I know God exists despite there being no evidence, because I have faith"
>How do you know your faith isn't misplaced?
>"I have faith that it isn't"

Faith is not an absence of evidence, it is an infinity of evidence.

what the fuck is the demiurge is it fucking real is any of this fucking real

wait a fucking second i already posted in this thread what the fuck is going on

woke

on a very basic level that's just dogmatic acceptance of some circumstance that everyone who has their life together to some degree has and needs

what i mean is like ... what chomsky said about moral relativism being dishonest because everyone constantly needs to make value judgements about others and the world to function as a human being, all based in some sort of (at that moment) rigid moral framework

you cant live without a metanarrative. you can push it away but it'll always come back, and there's always an element to it that is not understood, because once understood it'll lose its power and be replaced by some other shit

it's funny when athiests disagree on that because it's really coming from that same rigid faith in the validity of your personal worldview

Hey careful partnet
it's real motherfucker
also confusion/frustraion is what is shitposting

>Adulthood is not living your life based on storytime from an age when asking questions got you killed
Where do brainlet Youtube atheists get the idea that there was ever a time in history where everyone just believed in some kind of monolithic, omnipotent orthodoxy and rich, diverse speculation and discourse on the existence and nature of God wasn't happening?

Maybe adulthood is not living your life by ridiculous dichotomies. Or just being willing to examine your ideas and opinions with an adult level of scrutiny and refusing to frame your life with the adventures of sky papa.