Ivy League Schools

Ireland here.
We had someone from the Harvard admissions team speak at our school and he's shilling all the Ivy Leagues.
I'm considering applying but I get the impression these Ivy League schools are overrated (except for Cornell). I'd rather go to MIT, Stanford or Caltech (if I could get in) than these places.
Ivy League Schools:
>affirmative action brainlets
>endless useless majors in arts
>full of dudebro chads who bought their way in
Are The Ivies even good schools for STEM? The more I look into them the more overrated these places seem. Any current/former students feel free to comment.

Do your undergrad at a decent, affordable uni with good student research opportunities. Personal experience doing research is much more important than having an Ivy name attached to you BS.

For grad school though, only do top 20.

If you're American could you give me your opinion of Trinity College Dublin? Do you even know of it?

>Personal experience doing research is much more important
This. Education is 90 percent student and 10 percent institution.

>For grad school though, only do top 20.
Wouldn't go that far, but I would say that the institution matters far more for grad school. And the way you ensure this is by referring to the advice above and knocking it out of the park in undergrad.

Thanks anons.

Harvard and Princeton are the only ivies worth going to for education. The rest are fine for networking if that's your prerogative.

agreeing. You'll waste a ton of money and hate every human life within a mile of you if go to any of these places and only be marginally better off for it. Grad school is a totally different story, but if you go to a decent enough place for undergrad and do some good research, you'll be in a very good place.

>Are The Ivies even good schools for STEM
Cornell is. The others not so much.

Hi Ireland
I have a basis that I'm using to make my college decision, OP
I. The courses with the least variation from one institution to another are the most "pure" (see pic)
II. Jobs in STEM are earned primarily on the merit of the applicant(or at least I try to believe this)
III. Tuition is supremely relevant when finding the opportunity cost from one uni to another.
For me, what I get from these three ideas, it makes the most sense to find the most value-oriented schools. Ivy leagues are definitely NOT one of them. I assume you're planning on living in the US after getting your degree (like my Irish brother-in-law, funnily enough).
I take if you're concerned with the name of your school, then a good mix of reputation/cost would be a UC or CSU, or you could attend a community college and transfer whereever you please, potentially saving your up to 100k usd

Russell Group is objectively better, certainly Oxbridge.