Why is fascist literature so widely discarded?

>"We are men of action not reading."
>Joseph Goebbels
There really isn't any.

this is the correct answer

Didn't the Nazi's co-opt some of Hamsun's work for their own ends?

Schmitt and Heidegger are top tier philosophers, even most lefties acknowledge their debt to them, though most likely their support of the regime was more driven by ambition than by genuine belief in national socialism.

Schmitt was not a fascist. His work in the 20s was focused on preserving the Wiemar constitution, and the Nazi's kicked him out because they thought his anti-semitism was insincere.

We've got the Divine Comedy, for one, Dante was basically a fascist wasn't he?

Because the only "fascist" literature worth anything isn't fascist at all, it was co-opted by the Reich as they had no intellectual literature of their own.

He's pro-republic and pro-Church, which is a bit of an odd combination, but there you go.

Sometimes you just have to soften the edges a little and work for MI-6.

telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/jamesbond/7948363/James-Bond-was-a-neo-fascist-gangster-says-John-Le-Carre.html

therightstuff.biz/2016/04/28/james-bond-literary-hitler/

This is stupid, all Bond is is a superhero without a gaudy costume. Actually, that's pretty accurate. He's the quintessentially English version of Superman.

I like how Germany went from having loads of great intellectual figures to having tree or four.

They did that with plenty of authors. They used some of Weininger's work even though they would have persecuted him. I can think of a handful of talented authors that were sympathetic to fascism, but I can't think of any good explicitly fascist literature.

>I can think of a handful of talented authors that were sympathetic to fascism
such as?

Not him, but Hamsun, Pound, Heidegger are major canonical figures who were vocal proponents of various forms of fascism

Pound, Yeats, Hamsun. Maybe handful was a little too generous. I think Stein and Lawrence might have also leaned towards that direction, bu I could be totally wrong on that.

Brasillach, celine, henry de montherlant, drieu la rochelle, a number of authors in the modernist movement, etc, there were plenty.

Symbolist Poet Gabriele D'Annunzio was the originator of much of the aesthetic elements of fascism, like the title 'Duce', Roman Salutes, Black Shirted militias, etc. His regency in Fiume was arguably the first fascist dictatorship. He was quite a character. One of those early 20th century guys who read Nietzsche and decided they were supermen. Only 5'6, megalomaniac, WWI ace pilot, liked to crossdress in private. I haven't read any of his work, but apparently he's still highly regarded in italy.

>that pic
Maybe postmodernity isn't as bad as I thought.

hey you got that number i was looking for?

I'm pretty sure huysmans and junger and pla had fascist sympathies too.

Because it challenges the progressive status quo.
What literature are you talking about, specifically?

Fascist and marxist literature should be equally discarded and ridiculed, yet because academia is full of marxists this is not the case.

Anything that argues against full private property rights is cancerous.

While there's definitely some great fascist writers, there has never been an even moderately good right 'libertarian' writer. Seriously it's like a brain disease that prevents you from writing anything except wish fulfilment pulp with dubious political undertones.

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>co-opt some of Hamsun's work
>co-opt
He was just a straight up nazi sympathizer. Though he was of course a Norwegian nationalist and romanticist, he supported the German occupation government and nazi Germany as it provided a counterweight to the anglo-saxon world and international capitalism (which he considered to be extremely degenerate, a view he formed well before the war, see "Fra Det Moderne Amerikas Aandsliv" (1889)).

In a lot of ways, I believe he was right in this.

>create an ideology that glorifies war
>cause your nation to declare war in everyone else
>lose
>get killed
This is the power of fascist "intellectuals"

Hoppe is one of our time's greatest intellectuals.

>neofeudalism
>intellectual

When I hear the word "culture," that's when I release the safety catch on my Browning!

I regret every second I wasted on that screed

Because there is no greater topic than freedom.

Mercia Eliade

Heidegger was fucked and hardly a Nazi. He fucked Hannah Arendt multiple times (a Jewish woman fyi) and maintained his love for her through letters. He further maintained a friendship with a Viktor Frankl another Jewish man.

>He has Jew friends so he's not a Nazi
Kek

a lot of nazis had jewish wives. hell, there were jewish exceptions all through the regime.

>a lot of jewish exceptions
I'm not doubting you, I know about Hitler's commander, for example, just laughing at the phrasing

that's not true.
the history man by malcom bradbury is a satiric novel lampooning marxists when marxism was actually accepted within academia. the liberal positivists won that culture war. ask any academic who taught in the late 60s/70s.
are you one of these people who think left liberals are secret marxists? that's some red scare shit.

It's shit like any other ideology.

Jünger was just an old guard German. It's said he was associated with a couple of the Officers who tried to whack Hitler during Valkyrie.

you can be a fascist and hate hitler though.

And his work under the Nazis was all about undermining Weimar

>implying Heidegger didn't oppose Judaism on a metaphysical level

Jünger was more of a Prussian individualist who became disillusioned with the lack of functional elitism in German society.

He would have been happy under the Kaiser.

probably because it's facist you fucking dunce

I recommend reading On Overgrown Paths if you haven't. Hamsun wrote it after the war when everybody had turned on him and either treated him like shit or like a senile old man.

Don't you usually discard trash?

George Orwell has written a good essay on the topic. But intelligently wrote down some ideas instead of spouting drivel bashing fascism. None of you leftist indoctrinated cucks even know what fascism is, you simply use it as an insult. Look up the 25 principles of The German nazi party. You will agree with at least 20 of them.

Also Ezra pound. Great b8

fascist "literature"? never heard of him.

>look up principles of almost any party anywhere. you will find yourself agreeing with almost all of them, because they are universally platitudes by design

fascists are dunderheads and they dont see it

So from a Marxist viewpoint, fascists are worse than anarcho-capitalists, yes? Because a fascist state enforces capitalism and helps corporations?

Fascism has a better track record than Communism. Not only did it work miracles on the places that did it, their kill count against other nations was amazing.

Meanwhile communist countries killcount is mostly against themselves from being stupid.

Evidently not. With all the loathing on Marxism i have

This is such a frivolous topic. Literature is an intrinsic thing. People would produce much better literature from a prosperous and homogenous fascist society than from a "utopic" breadline or in a field at gun point

>None of you leftist indoctrinated cucks even know what fascism is, you simply use it as an insult.

funny that, you'll do the same with marxism

It's hard for people not to know what Marxism is since retarded cucks never shut up about it. Your argument would work if people didn't have to tell you why abolition of property is a stupid idea like once a day.

>my ideology is better than yours because it killed more people

> Not only did it work miracles on the places that did it

are we doing the whole "hitler made germany really rich guys it wasn't just short term prep for war economy" thing again

I don't think either of those societies would produce much good literature.

>retarded c*cks
go a whole day without using that insult, just give it a shot

>abolition of property is a stupid idea
yeah exactly how will i be able to jerk it to anime fashy traps in wheatfields if not for my own personal computer

10 times better then under the jewish banks and conglomerate of jewish factory and business owners.

I'm very educated on left wing politics. Shame you can't do the same for right wing. How cant someone be educated on it. You cunts never shut the fuck up about it

While I know you will not be able to define fascism, nor national socialism

I'm also very intrested in facist writers. Probably the allies burned most of it.

Should i read this writers books?

Because the modern dominant morality is a specific kind of secular humanism intertwined with liberal progressivism, which is vehemently opposed to fascist and fascist-like views.
Which means that:
A) People who are brought up in this system are going for the most part to follow that kind of morality which makes them feel disgust or a general sense of opposition towards the values and the currents of thought that fascist writers espouse, if they ever read them at all, which happens very rarely since they're conditioned since the cradle to avoid them.

B) Praising a fascist writer is going to be costly in terms of social capital. In fact, in order to do so, people often try to paint those writers, philosophers and so on as liberal as they can. See for example Kaufman and Nietzsche.

Was that supposed to be irony?

He is a poet. Not a entry level poet either. He lived in Paris and was quite notorious at the time. He helped t.s. Eliot. James Joyce and Ernest Hemingway get themselves to where they ended up

He did a lot of stuff for modern poetry. He had a bit of an imagery movement going on. Worth reading. Not entry level however

worked miracles by tearing their beloved nations apart through war?
I don't think kill count should be the measurement of a good government. this is the kind of opaque thinking which makes fascists silly, damaged, dress-up human beings.

So, basically, what happens is this:
- people are encouraged not to read fascist writers
- if they read them, they're predisposed to not liking them
- if they like them, it's tacitly suggested to them to not praise them or if they do that, to try to paint them as not really fascists
- all of this results in "experts" and academics avoiding putting fascist works into curricula of any kind, which makes fewer people read them

And then the self-reinforcing loop starts back from the beginning

fascism is certainly not the same as national socialism, that much i can assure you.

fascism was a third positionary movement arising from the futurist art movement. it was entirely focused on the rising both capitalist and communist perspectives, advocating class collaboration, a strong authoritarian leader (IL DVCE), and ultimately an attempt to revive the roman empire. fascism is entirely italian.

natsoc, whilst similar in this aim to fascism, ultimately served as nothing more than a corporatist and reactionary authoritarian government after the dissolution of the SA. it was nothing more than a vehicle for hitler to project his estranged and misplaced desire for racial purity and the destiny of the german people.

does that about sum it up

interestingly enough, a good deal of hitler's best corporatist buddies and lobbyists were jewish, and they STILL maintained a good deal of wealth and control well into the nazi regime. there was a great greentext explaining it all that i'm trying to find, bear with me.

1. Every political ideology ever to have national power has seen war. Getting into a war is not indicative of the quality of an ideology.
2. Every political ideology of worth has produced effective results. Those that aren't, like communism, haven't. Going from the worst position in the great depression to being technologically and militarily superior to all your rivals is an indicative result of political ideology at work.

Just go on /pol/ and ask. I'm not 100% but facism comes from national syndicalism. It's basically the bolsehvik revolution without killing your own people. Insted they put the nations people and family structures first. Many socialist joined the nationalist facists in Italy. They want corporatism where all work together, the state and people without a elite. First ideology to break from an elite controlled country. That's why jews and rotschild hated the ideology so mutch.

okey thanks

I didn't say war was the measurement of quality. I said, they tore their nations apart through war-mongering. that's not producing a miracle.
they were so militarily superior that a bunch of rowdy, haphazard lads from largely agrarian economies dismantled them. hm, methinks the lady dost protest too much.

>I'm very well read in fantasies about a utopian government which has never once worked in the history of ever without collapsing in on its own stupidity

KEKE

Congratulations, you're like a pastor at a meeting for quantum physicists. That's the equivalent for a leftard talking politics.

The power of Nazism caused a nation to go to war with the world and almost win.

Communism decimated its own population and ruined its nations until they had to capitulate and become capitalist. Marx was wrong, face it, capitalism is the end-game of communism because COMMUNISTS ARE FAILURES HAHAHHAHAHAH

I would realy want to se a real facist state today, hopefully left alone by the jews. Would be fun to compare it to old red nations.

>I'm very educated on left wing politics.

Ohhh wooww, you read the Communist Manifesto? How enlightening. Why not join us in the world of right wing politics and read all of world history. There's a bit more than 2 books written on it and unlike "left wing politics" it has not only worked at least once, its worked for thousands of years.

Thats what happens when you listen to a guy who never had a job in his life and who's greatest life achievement was dodging paying rent and living in Engel's mom's basement.

This nazism is the best ideology. We just need to rebrand and call us something else so peoole understand that the general ideas are good.

the nazis didn't win though. so much for this fetishised power.
communism lasted well into the 90s.
if you're so intent on comparison, I don't think failure or longevity should be your metric. the fascists loose on both counts.

>the nazis didn't win though. so much for this fetishised power.

Oh wow, the power of Nazism was just barely not strong enough to force the entire world into capitulation.

You sure proved them wrong!.

>communism lasted well into the 90s.

HAHAHAH it sure did. Looks like fucking paradise, doesn't it. youtube.com/watch?v=t8LtQhIQ2AE

>I don't think failure or longevity should be your metric

Fascism didn't fail, Germany was defeated and forced to resign it. Being defeated militarily is not the same thing as being economically illiterate and running your nation and its population into the ground, but I wouldn't expect a communist to know anything about that considering they still think its a good idea when they've seen what it does.

I think they won where it mattered, geting rid of jews. The bolsehviks where full of jews and it ended with 60 million dead white Christinas, where the main executer where jewish. Churchill where a jewish rotschild puppet and warmonger. USA is the land of the jews.

>that video
>the despair in those eyes

Fuck i realy hate jews

Always people asking after or trying to discuss fascist literature, but always so few actually recommend outside Hamsun, Celine, and then a few (very poor) suggestions that Mishima or Junger were fascist. So it isnt discarded, it is just that actual literature of quality that isnt penny-pulp blood and soil novels from the 30s or StormPress trash is actually produced.

He asked if you had read any fascist literature faggot, not your shitty political opinions. Suggest some works of quality that arent huge stretches. Actual fascist literature.

>The power of Nazism caused a nation to go to war with the world and almost win.
You really believe they almost won?

yes, by definition their "power" was insufficient. the allies were also not "the world". your lederhosen is a bit big for you there.
what it looks like is not relevant. communism was more successful than fascism as an ideology as evident by it's longevity.
oh? so the war didn't run the german economy, people, and infrastructure into the ground? I wonder how the survivors of Dresden would feel about that claim.
I'm not a communist, so I don't really understand the non-sequitur. is apart of liking fascism dividing the world up into communists and non-communists?
are you incapable of complex thought?

*isnt actually produced

>does that sum it up

No, hitler diden't go to war. The world went to war with hitler.

the cognition of defeat is fascinating.

I know Communists are some of the most mentally ill people on the planet(moreso than furries or trannies) but you could try start reading.

Anything.

If you ever read anything of value in your life you'd reach a point you'd discover the philosophy of Hegel and Kant, the both of which inspired much of Marxism AND Fascism.

Hope this helps you illiterate retard!

Hitler did nothing wrong and neoreaction is the most vitalistic and life affirming system we will see until the end of industry itself