How likely do you think it actually is that humans will be able to get to this stage of planetary engineering?
Will we forever be destined to just be rockhoppers with only one natural home, or will terraforming be as easy as throwing some replicating robots on the surface of whatever world we see fit?
We could do it very easily to planets that have lots of water and co2. It really depends on the planet. If it can sustain a micro-organism then it's easy.
>terraforming
Stupid, 20th century space opera meme. Especially when it comes to faggot, useless Mars.
Humans are on the brink (~100 years) of being upload/AI hybrids, indifferent to environment. "We" won't even have physical bodies at that point, so our main concern will actually be the wholesale conversion of matter into computronium and the construction of Matrioshka Brains.
I'd recommend starting with the moon, since it's right next door...we'll probably want to preserve the earth for lulz and archival purposes.
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Pretty much all astronomical bodies within our reach are impossible to "terraform", to the extent of even slightly resembling Earth. It's kind of a pointless endeavour unless you're producing something from it. Bots and facilities will just be in-orbit and underground. For time it would take to make a planet somewhat better for us, we will already be through several huge technological leaps that result in it being even more irrelevant.
Nobody is going to spend astronomical amounts of money and a million years to terraform a planet if you can just build closed cities with a fraction of the price and time
Wouldn't terraforming it to earth-like state be extremely counterproductive? Not only because environmental nutjobs will go nuclear both before and after the deed, but also you'll make it more difficult to access some resources such as those under the seas or forested areas.
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yeah but terraforming isnt about changing the planets temperature to be able to walk outside and do interstelar acid trips.
i can be about making the environnement less harmfull to human structures and shit so we can live out there more easily, in this case, mars is a great option.
anyone who is against mars colonisation is a huge faggot who doesnt deserve internet access to shitpost on this board
>Wanting to turn yourself into a faggot robot trapped inside a harddisk
No thanks, I'd rather keep my flesh and blood body
>but also you'll make it more difficult to access some resources such as those under the seas or forested areas.
That’s never stopped us before.
you would need a china-style government that rules over the whole of a planet to enact something like that
We can start it, but we can't be around to see it finished. We will have evolved into something else and no longer be human or we will be extinct by the time our efforts pay off. The time frames involved in terraforming an entire planet like Mars is far far too long. At least 500 million years. The first few 100 million years would be waiting for all the debris from asteroid bombardments to settle down in the solar system. Then at least another 100 million years to get a proper self-sustaining ecosystem going.
You are far better off making solar-orbiting space station colonies and use robots and AI to bring and build everything you need.
>500 million years.
Where are getting that fucking number? Where’s your source?
Geological history of Earth. Take a look at the time scales for things happening. Then think about humans trying to do that. Remember, it isn't just about creating an atmosphere. You need more gravity and core activity. Otherwise, you are just pissing in the wind.
>wanting to be meat forever with all the aches, pains, itches and tickles that come with it
You need to step out of your meat
Terraforming? Bitch we can't even into reversing desertification lol
Or you could just nuke the shit out of the core until it's molten and get them magnetic field juices flowing
If we can't even terraform Earth to our advantage, what makes you think it will magically become easier on a distant planet with much worse conditions, no infrastructure, no supplies, no power, no food, no suitable biosphere...?
Mankind will essentially die of stupidity and greed.
What are you talking about? We are really good at terraforming Earth. Look at how much CO2 that we've put in the air already
I think we will reach a point where we can just drop a large number of robots on a planet and have them terraform it for us. Actually getting the planet terraformed would still take a ton of time, but starting it would be a one-time investment, and doing it wouldn't require trillions of man-hours of work over thousands of years.
That doesn't add mass to the planet and there's most likely not enough fissile material available to do that correctly all at once. Just all the fissile material we have mine, refined, and used/not used to date would be able to do a tiny percentage of that. I think you don't comprehend the forces involved.
Just one asteroid impact can be more powerful than all the nukes in the world. Hell, the Krakatoa eruption of 1883 was estimated to be 200MT. That's less than half the nuclear tests in history up to 1996 (510.3MT). 13,000 times more powerful than the Hiroshima bomb. The amount of energy you need to put into a planet like Mars to "restart" the core is literally astronomical. As in cracking the planet with asteroids moving as fast as possible. Nukes are not going to do shit to it.
>he thinks that consciousness is transferable
>not comprehending that we exist in an ongoing MWI scenario
>not understanding that the longest lived version of "you" is always "you"