My dad is thoroughly convinced that perpetual energy machines exist. I dont believe that such a thing can exist in an actual reality. I've tried explaining that you cant just put a windmill on a car while driving and drive forever on the power generated from the windmill while the car is in motion, while he disagrees to the point where he threw a tantrum and broke the front door to the house in rage while calling "a fucking stupid idiot that doesn't know shit."
Aside from not bringing that kind of situation up again, how can i explain to him that perpetual energy machines simply do not exist. Something else to note is that this is the same man that believe muslims control the weather all over the world from their cube.
Just leave your retarded dad. Probably you're not even his child, all evidence points to him being a cuckold.
Jayden Scott
Lmao
Just use google or the sqt
Brody Lewis
I honestly feel sorry for you. Some people cannot be convinced by any amount of evidence. You didn't give us a hint of how old you are, but I hope you can get away soon.
You _could_ ask him why ExxonMobile is so profitable if energy was free -- but that risks starting another freak-out.
Colton Flores
Convince him to make the machine lol He'll find out eventually, or die wasting his time.
Julian Peterson
He brought up oil companies buying the patents for these so called perpetual energy machines, and asked why they would do that, and I said >"Because they dont want people making their own energy" But before i could continue he went on and on about how stupid I am, without letting me finish with >"because they would use such engines to just magically make energy out of nowhere and still charge for it, which why dont, because they dont exist."
For all I know, perpetual engines could exist in some fashion, against all logic, however the fact that I know he's basing all this knowledge he thinks he has on hearsay, tabloids, and strange websites, really kills any credit he may or may not have had.
Hell, for all I know, his idea of a perpetual engine is an engine that just runs on water, which still wouldnt be one, but in his mind that could be exactly what hes referring to.
Levi Lee
>falling for the jewish physics meme What are you a numale cuck?
Jace Taylor
You think that's bad? Try living with someone who has a debilitating, self-destructive, even suicidal case of delusional parasitosis and refuses to recognize negative diagnoses and lab results even when you explain them carefully in full. Try explaining to her that the apparent lack of effect from mainstream medical treatments is only further sign that her condition is not parasitic, if it's even real at all. Try watching her spend literally every waking hour sobbing to herself, applying bullshit snake-oil treatments and probing for imaginary bugs and every random speck of dirt with Q-tips and a shitty USB microscope. Try listening to her say she "can't go on like this" through the tears when you know full-well that "this" is entirely in her head.
I'm probably going to have to have my own mother committed. Or worse, wake up one morning and find her dead next to an empty bottle of pills. Your problems ain't shit, user.
Carter Green
>threw a tantrum and broke the front door to the house >believe muslims control the weather If it was just the perpetual motion it wouldn't be a big deal, but you're clearly dealing with a mentality similar to a /pol/tard. As you should know by now, it's simply pointless to "argue" with those. Don't be an autist yourself, just let him be wrong, none of this is actually important in either of your lives.
Gabriel Price
My mom is almost similar, she has this issue where, despite working in a hospital, uses webmd for everything, and ill get calls at all hours of the night and day with her bawling because she has nine types of cancer and hepasyphilaids A through Z and will be dead by the end of the month.
I can't help but argue, because its really the only thing we have in common. i'm a shut-in, hes a partier, I sit at my computer when not at work, he tinkers with cars, he rents a prostitute two or three times a week, im celibate and find sex repulsive. Aside from a handful of other things like hot sauce and sleep, the only thing we got in common is a love to argue.
Brayden Hughes
Have you considered grinding antipsychotics into her food or anything?
Luis Perry
Ask her to show vagene first.
Adam Wood
[spoiler]the whole universe is perpetual energy machine[/spoiler]
Dominic Williams
>My dad is thoroughly convinced that perpetual energy machines exist. Tell him you know it's true because his mouth is a perpetual motion machine and it's running on nothing.
Carson Hernandez
Yeah, amongst other options. Not sure how I'd go about getting them though.
At present I'm leaning towards an intervention with an ultimatum - open up to the possibility that she's delusional and begin psychiatric treatment voluntarily, or else be involuntarily committed. The rest of my family seems even more confrontation-averse than I am though. I suppose I'm willing to be the bad guy if that's what it takes but I have to work up the nerve first.
Carter Robinson
>I dont believe that such a thing can exist in an actual reality. If something from nothing is impossible, how come something exists?
Asher Allen
You can not un-retard him. Your only hope is to get him to build his imaginary machine.
Xavier Clark
Do you really believe that crap?
Cameron Jenkins
>oil companies buying the patents
A patented perpetual machine would actually be something wonderful. You see, patents are, by their very essence, public. In this case you could a) demand the patent name and number and b) build a sample for study and further development. Such use is totally allowed on patents, but you could not use the invention for commercial purposes. Furthermore, patents expiry, since that is their nature - they provide for the inventor an exclusive use for certain time, after which everybody can use the novel idea. They are an agreement between inventor and society.
A working perpetual motion machine patented would spell tremendously good times ahead! But, well, since they do not exist...
Dominic Murphy
>he tinkers with cars Allow him to build a perpetual motion machine, watch him fail. Easy peasy
Brayden Thomas
Not quite right. If you make a patented apple peeler and use it in your kitchen, I doubt you'll get into trouble. If you build a multi-million dollar rotary web-press, you'll be sued even if you don't use it commercially or sell it.
There are, actually, several patented perpetual motion machines. The US patent office dropped the requirement for working models long ago. Lack of storage space. You can get the plans for the machines easily enough. None of them work, of course.
I still beg to differ slightly. No research department has ever been sued for building a working perpetual motion machine for any purpose, notwithstanding price or other expenses.
However, for the fundamental reason why this is so, we can probably agree completely.
Robert Ortiz
Agreed. I meant the part about "ok to build patented item so long as you don't commercialize it".
Things are getting worse. Companies using DMCA to claim you can't even _study_ their product. John Deere sues anyone but an Authorized Deere Service Center who tries to look "under the hood" and fix tractor they've bought and paid for.
Nathan Jenkins
OP's dad BTFO
Christian Sullivan
Actually, you can put a windmill on a car. If there's enough wind, you can drive forever. You really don't know shit.
Josiah Cox
Ameritards tend to forget that most of the world isn't america. People build and commercialize patented items it all the time. There are billion dollar companies in China whose entire business plan is to shamelessly copy Apple products (or indeed John Deere equipment). They can't sell it globally but nobody gives a fuck because there's more potential consumers in China than america and europe combined.
It's an undeniable fact that if a patent for something revolutionary existed, China would be mass producing it already
Jaxson Bell
>you cant just put a windmill on a car while driving and drive forever on the power generated from the windmill while the car is in motion Generators on yachts are pretty fucking close. With electric motors where they are it wouldn't surprise me at all if drone boats could sail perpetually without recharging. That's not really perpetual energy ofcourse.
Landon Ortiz
Just show him that the work that comes out of the system is lower than the work put into a system. The ratio of the two should be less than one, so it "loses" energy over time as it runs. To be perpetual, the efficiency would have to be greater than one. That is an easy example, just set up the problem
>Your problems ain't shit, user. So you're problems are bigger therefore my back doesn't hurt? I'm sure your situation is insufferable but come on, you have to be able to see that this person is having a real issue right?
Samuel Lee
Make the confrontation happen, I know it hurts but she needs this, I know you want her to be hapoy, you clearly care deeply about her and I respect that, the only way she's going to get better is get help, try telling her that if she goes through with it that doesn't mean it's not real, make sure she knows that if normal medicine has failed her this could lead her to a cure even if it's not in her head.
Alexander Rivera
Becuase "nothing" has properties beyond our understanding. Truly "nothing" like "outside" of the universe doesn't have to fit our understanding of the rules of nature.
Kayden Carter
Are you retarded?
Jackson Lewis
I dont know, i feel it would be in reason for drone ships in theory but im fairly sure user is refering to sticking wind turbines ontop of your car and using the power generated by driving the car at high speed to continue to drive at high speed forever.
Cooper Butler
No, she's suffering from a delusion, OCD wouldn't cover what she has nut I could see her with it aswell, easily.
Daniel Perry
>how can i explain to him that perpetual energy machines simply do not exist.
Start off by not showing him this quote.
Caleb Howard
Sailboats are a thing my man.
Benjamin Jackson
Also, don't mention zero-point energy and electrogravitics. Be sure to convince him it's all pseudoscience perpetuated by frauds, and that there isn't a shred of legitimacy to any of it.
Christian Harris
Thank you for confirming that you are indeed too stupid to answer the question that was asked. Thank you. Please leave now.
Adrian Ward
all me
Nolan Wilson
Your dad is schizophrenic.
Ethan Morris
We wouldn't want your pa to entertain any wild ideas.
Gabriel Smith
there is nothing you can do, just do not talk about it, avoid such subjects. If your dad insists, ask him respectfully to agree to disagree
Asher Martinez
Don't show him this meme either.
Isaiah Lewis
That's just bipolar disorder, jackass.
Josiah Davis
But the best solution would probably be to reprimand your dad for wrongthink.
Evan Jones
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Austin Cruz
:’(
Ayden Gray
Quads of truth. user, as having a mom with depression and bipolar disorder, ultimatums are the only way they’ll ever get serious about something
Nolan Edwards
Everyone who doesn't have multiple stage 4 cancers can leave the hospital now, since we only care about the very worst of problems. We've fixed healthcare!
Adrian Torres
>alien reproduction vehicle Is this a weird sex thing?
David Foster
No, I'm not. Are you retarded? It's even easier to accomplish when you have wheels on the ground.
Just connect your windmill to the wheels with a proper gearbox.
You simply can't. I recommend you have him committed because he's a danger to you and others, or simply dose him up real good with a heroic amount of mescaline. The trip should either wipe all the crazy away or push him into full-blown psychosis, in which case it would be even easier to have him committed.
You have a shitty dad, and you're a fucking loser for staying with him. I bet he became lucid for a second, he'd tell you just the same -- you're fool for putting up with him.
Landon Peterson
if he got THAT upset about the idea I doubt there's any way to change his mind
Hudson Moore
you know that an object floating a few cm above an object is energetically equivalent to an object sitting directly atop an object, right? The only difference is that magnetism acts across larger distances than electronic forces (ie. the repulsion of valence electrons of the surfaces of the two objects). If you "zoomed in" close enough on a block sitting on a table, it would very much still be "floating;" it would just be floating a few nanometers instead of a few centimeters.
Wyatt Roberts
Oh so she really does have undetectable parasites? Good to know. You cured mental illness user.
Bentley Gonzalez
You need to figure out what has triggered this problem and hope it isn't genetic. You may not end up with the same problem regardless, but you may have other issues. Knowing is half the battle.
Also, you are using a logical fallacy for, "Your problems ain't shit, user."
Angel Adams
>newsweek
*inhales*
Charles Nguyen
> Something else to note is that this is the same man that believe muslims control the weather all over the world from their cube. Please elaborate more on this. Because I really want to know why he thinks its the Muslims behind this and not the classic tried and trued scapegoat of the Jews.
Tyler Nelson
All Abrahamic religions are jewish shit desu.
Gabriel Mitchell
Honestly perpetual motion isn't that stupid of an idea. Plenty of things can produce work using absent energy and noise. Biology uses brownian motors all the time
I said brownian motor not ratchet. They're seen all over biology
Luis Bell
Brownian motors are not perpetual. They consume ATP.
Benjamin Parker
>relative privation
Adam Parker
Show this to your dad, it is probably the only "free energy" device of interest that will shape the next generation of magnetic based technology (everything). youtube.com/watch?v=O75gkskkkZ8
I could banter about muh laws of thermodynamics and whatnot, but the fact is that you will NEVER create something from nothing. That being said, you CAN move what energy is already there by the use of pressure mediation. Everything works of pressure mediation; low/high, hot/cold, implosion/explosion, It's only a matter of how "efficient" you can use the energy. The energy never disappears, it just turns into another form waiting to be used by something that can unlock it's potential. And there is a shitload of potential, even in the smallest amount of dust on your floor.
Oliver Richardson
your dad is a brainlet, wich explains this post
Levi Lee
This is one of the dumbest videos I've seen in weeks.
Thanks you
Nathaniel Gonzalez
>noise is not energy retard plz
Lucas Gutierrez
>Biology uses brownian motors they are quimically powered, and those chemicals gain power from the sun as almost every energy does somehow.
Hunter Cook
Your dad is hopelessly mentally ill. There's nothing you can do abiut that. You, too, are mentally ill, because of your obsessive/addictive involvement in your dad's mental illness. There are things you can do about that. But that's your problem.
Luke Howard
actually i read about this thing and it makes sense, only that i duobt it could be moved by such small particles (wich i would like to know why they move)
Thomas Bailey
it's called being a hypochondriac, which is closely related to bipolar disorder...
Oliver Morris
Maybe you should quit being a fucking stupid idiot that doesn't know shit.
Jordan Hill
Going through nearly the same thing with my mom. I'm 25 and Just want her to snap out of it. I don't have a choice I dont think I could leave her, but getting help is hard she doesn't want to try and cries wolf whenever we try take her to a specialist that might reveal her true condition. She has PTSD from getting beat the death and then resuscitated about 20 years ago. No idea what to do.
Juan Ross
>that one about the hills
Those hills aren't hills, they're 5km tall mountains. Without an atmosphere to introduce distance haze, you can't tell how far away stuff is. The astronauts actually experienced this a lot, deciding to go check out a nearby waist-tall rock only to realize it's a far away house sized boulder, or being careful to avoid falling into a crater that is over 500 meters away.
If the Moon were a perfect sphere, then its horizon would be much closer. However, 'much closer' is still several dozen kilometers, compared to the hundred or so standing on the Earth.
>Why doesn't the rover have tracks
It does, they're in the photo, they're hard to see because of the lighting. Also the astronauts are off the rover because they're taking samples further form the landing site, which is the point of the rover in the first place.
>why is the rover different from mission to mission
Because they're different rovers, and after each mission the design was modified to make it better.
>shadows
The LEM shadow is falling on flat ground. The foreground objects are on a slope. Also none of those colored lines even line up to the fucking shadows lol.
Hunter Peterson
Perpetual energy exists inside black holes.
Logan Murphy
I did honestly believe in this stuff and was probably nearing a state of psychosis, but a friend of mine experienced a legit one with hospitalization and became very sceptical after that (although kinda bored and seemingly less happy), inspiring me to become one too to some extend. Although i like to play around with that stuff because that kind of world view is more fun. If not real, it would be kinda cool if it were real.
Cooper Cruz
>you cant since we dont know if they exist
Brandon Stewart
>China would be mass producing it pretty much
or you would see lawsuits, also public record
Asher Williams
Yeah, well my father locked himself in a room with a double barreled shotgun and pulled the trigger. I was 9 years old and in the next room. Take a number and get in line. Pussy.
Jaxon Scott
hes misunderstanding oil companies buying out alternative energy patents.
Cooper Harris
no, if you zoomed in youd get no physical things just fields
If he accepts these then he doesn't accept perpetual motion, if he doesn't accept these he lives in fairy land and you can't discuss further. That's the long and short of it
Zachary Turner
Yes I know that, but for all intents and purposes sustainable motions from ambient energy is basically free energy
Liam Jones
the problem with psychiatry is they won't help anymore if they ever did. idk if therapy exists anymore with people trying to just talk to you. they have you list your symptoms then perscribe you anti psychotics now. that's it. if you try to help in some other way they'll tell you to stop or they won't prescribe anymore pills. all the pills do is sedate you too. they will most likely still have all the delusions and hallucinations
