Favorite Bible verse

Bible and Christianity are heavily flawed but do you not believe that there is a a God of some form out there? It might not even be morally good or evil since those are concepts created by humanity but it must be there. Some being that is beyond our comprehension that is responsible for life.

>i have no evidence for something but i believe it because i cannot comprehend existence and must make shortcuts to why i cannot comprehend it

this is your life

>i cannot comprehend existence
this is true for everyone

and?

so your argument falls apart lol

no it doesnt

improve your reading comprehension

yes it does

That's not very Christian like user.

no you idiot read a science textbook.

>must make shortcuts to why i cannot comprehend it

Evidence is out there. Your ability to sense evidence is merely inferior to that of other people's, and that's what makes up the difference in two different peoples' logic. Past a certain point you need to pay attention to more than what scientific cabbage heads write in their journals, and pay attention to the bigger picture. There's far more out there than what these mentally castrated individuals can tell you, and the more you can divine what's out there, the better off you'll be. "Evidence" basically a catch phrase for endorsing castration at this point, the castration of your ability to guess, based on probabilities, what's out there. And it's only because you lack the capacity to do so that you insult our way of playing the game.

It took us thousands of years just to come up with evolution. Even at that,it doesn't explain what was there before. And before that. And before that.

Everything came from something. But we can't possibly understand WHAT it came from. So why do you think it's so improbable that something science (again another human invention) can't explain? The only way we could understand is if humanity was to ascend to level of godhood like in Childhoods End.

again read a science textbook you dumbass

>I have no opinions or thoughts so I just get my intelligence from what other people tell me

No wonder you worship science so much when you're such a close minded individual. It's like a safety net for you that let's you sleep at night and because you reiterate what intelligent people think it in return makes you feel intelligent.

>believing intelligent people who devote years of their lives to specialized studies so that humanity as a whole can advance for the better.

>OH MY GOD I DIDNT SEE IT WITH MY OWN EYES I DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING U SAY HURRRRRR

lmao

You're actually such a retard. Im not even going to bother responding anymore since I'm 80% sure your shitposting.

"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"--Isaiah 14:12

Jesus wept.

Yea you won't respond because you can't respond with any legitimate claims besides "there has to be something more! There has to be a larger meaning to earth!"

dumbass not everything needs meaning, maybe accept the fact that you're just a biological species like everything else on this planet.

1 Corinthians 10:13

I interpret it as God wanting us to masturbate.

>There is no logical or rational position in believing in a sky fairy.

>There is no logical or rational position in believing in logic or rationality.

Revelation 19:13

theres no necessary reason to believe the opposite you do realize

Ezekiel 23:20

show me evidence

you cant can you

all im getting from you is vague sentimental cliches

lmfao

Ecclesiastes 3:11

>He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the human heart; yet no one can fathom what God has done from beginning to end.

The earth is flat, faggot. Piss off.

Job 6:11

17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

I love the berserk, spittle flecked rant that is Revelation.

2 Kings 2:23-24

Romans 10:9

Please provide an explanation for

The first cause
Abiogensis
Consciousness

I'll belive in God until these things can be demonstrated as emergent phenomenal of the natural world. But I doubt that anything will explain the first cause. The only evidence anyone needs to believe in God is to ponder the first cause and understand that something created all energy and matter in an instant. Who can do such miracles but God himself?

just because those things exist doesnt mean God does

LMFAO

Am I a pseud if the only books of the bible i've read all the way through are Genesis and Revelations?

"Come to me, all who labor and are heavy burdened, and I will give you rest."

–The Bible, Matthew 11:28

damn dude at least read the gospels. and Ecclesiastes while you're at it.

cognitive dissonance

All things are caused, it follows that the big bang was caused. What caused the big bang?

The lack of explanations incite us to believe in a god, that's human nature, we used to have god's about anything we could not fully explain, in the distant past it was the wind, the sun, the moon and so on.

Evidence, when properly used is just a way of confirming or disproving a thesis, most enlightened individuals do not stop or discurage reflecttion about anything, especially something about this nature, due to lack of evidence, evidence is just the final "stamp" to label something as a relative truth.

When it comes to god, especially the modern and western definition of god i've come to a conclusion that is impossible to achieve consensus, it is a mater of faith, just faith

I honestly think that's the point, if God wanted to be known the He would be but I assume that he desires that people have faith in Him. (I only use Him in the cosmic dad sense, god probably isn't dualistic)

And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.

Just for curiosity, does this god you think about has a developed consciousnesses, ethics and moral similar to yours ?

OT: Ecclesiastes 1

17 And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit.

18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

NT: Luke 23

42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.

OH WHAT A WRETCHED MAN I AM! WHO WILL RESCUE ME FROM THIS BODY OF SIN AND DEATH!?

Something that is uncaused (god), something that these faggots don't understand. However, the nature of this god is something we will probably never know, at least not in this lifetime.

OT is Psalm 137
If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning.

>muh unmoved mover

Go to bed, Aristotle. The beauty of some translations of the Bible has nothing to do with theology in this thread. We're talking about syntactic aesthetics

>There are people who read translations of the Bible for fun that aren't the KJV 1611 translation
how terrible

Stop trying to understand God, even negative statements are heresy.
Christianity is in no way flawed.

That's a badass one. Jesus not fucking around senpai

Probably not, I imagine an ifinite self aware brain. Intelligent infinity from which all consciousness stems from in a manner similar to fractal patterns.
God = the big daddy Mandelbrot shape and we are a minibrot many layers deep.

What's your take on it?

Job 39:26-30

also Jeremiah 17:9 which is:

9 "The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it? 10"I, the LORD, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give to each man according to his ways, According to the results of his deeds.…

What if God in its vast mysterious essence wants to understand itself through us instead of doing it all in one instant. What if this possess of self understanding has been repeated for all eternity just forgetting (pruning) the last time (thread) to make it new and fresh

>Implying an omniscient being can withhold knowledge from itself
Just accept that the Gospels were, even if divinely inspired, human works made by human hands, and therefore all too fallible.

Exodus 22:25.

Funny how it's part of the Torah. But when you understand how judaism deems non-jews as non-humans, but cattle, it makes sense.

I like the KJV as well, although it gets a lot of flack here because most Christians on Veeky Forums are Catholics, it seems to me. It's hard to find a good Catholic Bible, so many versions that get progressively more stultified to appeal to vague apostates.

>1 Corinthians 10:13
it says God provides the way out to each test, not quite that you can preset one to them all tests.

Hell, I'm Catholic, and there is no good English translation that matches up with Catholic doctrine. You've gotta read the Latin or, failing that, accept a translation that's beautiful but in support of Anglicanism.

>OT: Ecclesiastes 1
liked it.

The first cause is gravity. Shit melts together and forms suns. I saw this on some cuck's Youtube video. Not hard to explain, apparently. The Big Bang is a result of this. Everything forms at once, and draws together everything else to form a dot that explodes eventually, causing an outward movement and so on. A better explanation than that though is that someone created the Big Bang using some sort of technology. In the beginning though the universe was just a mass of floating energy particles.

Mormons believe that God was made through a human subspecies' effort. Well, we are made in his image, so something like us, right? They were the ones that made him, and so on. It's a pretty simple idea, but it's the only one that works.

Luke 19:27

An omnipotent being would have the power to make itself forget that it is God, and if it wanted to it could live human lives. Jesus didn't know he was God when he was a little kid.

>Jesus didn't know he was God when he was a little kid
And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast.
And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.
But they, supposing him to have been in the company, went a day's journey; and they sought him among their kinsfolk and acquaintance.
And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem, seeking him.
And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.
And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.
And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.
And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business?

>tfw you lose Jesus and almost fuck everything up for everyone

Not really because then who made the ayy lmaos?

Why do people make the jump from "a God existing makes sense" to buying fully into Christianity? I don't fully understand it, although it sounds nice desu.

Post the actual verse instead of wasting our time

>the first cause is gravity
>saw it on some cuck's youtube video
>tfw YouTube philosopher's have solved the greatest metaphysical question still vexing the philosophy of science
>tfw millions of hours of contemplation and debate, reasoning and deduction have all been abolished by sciencebro on YT
shit's fucked up senpai

inb4 Zeke's donkey dick

Most of the ayy lmaos are enlightened beings who believe in the Father. Check out The Urantia Book. I don't know many more details than that, but I find it hard to avoid thinking that they are inferior to Earthlings because they live so long. Dunno.

Yeah he was some atheist debating Christians on precisely this point. Check out Neale Donald Walsch's books though. How suns are formed is common knowledge I believe, so his books don't go over that point, but everything else is resolved there. Getting bored of this discussion now though so cya.

Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Deuteronomy 25:11-12

"If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity."

Gonna be honest here senpai-a-lam the term "enlightened beings" rly seems liek the inocorrect term considering their perceived history of kidnapping Earthlings to conduct all sorts of weird experiments on them (with our governments permission supposedly)/Reptilians/"Greys" (who are just a "servant race" to other ayy lmaos) , the "hyper dimensional" concept of whatever these beings are also seems like a huge red-flag that they're not what they claim to be and even top researchers like Dr. Jacques Vallee, a French-American computer specialist with a background in astrophysics, once served as consultant to NASA's Mars Map project. , and even made a cameo appearance in the movie "close encounters of the third kind" even used the very term "demonic" to describe whatever these things are and would definitely fit that description even in biblical terms as their agenda always seems to be quite "anti-human" in nature. There are also numerous accounts of people thinking they are being abudcted in their bedrooms and then they started praying to Jesus and the experience immediately stopped of these "beings" would make curious requests like telling them to rip up their baptism certificates , etc. Point being that there definitely seems to be a deep spiritual connection to this phenomena and whatever these "other beings" are the very name of Jesus seems to have a very powerful and abrupt effect on them. Humanity definitely has a special place in the cosmos that no other intelligence/manifestation has in terms of it's potential relationship with God through Jesus Christ and the connection is definitely there even in terms of the occult and other long-standing practices that always attempt to "contact the other side and the entities that live there" in this same sense. Just my two cents the main focus should just be on Jesus anyway imo because in the end that's all that really matters anyway despite what happens in this physical plain vs. the eternal. God Bless.

>Logical.
>Denying the existence of something you can't prove doesn't exist.
>Logical and rational.

Time to grow up, kid. Start repenting. Pic related is the ultimate red-pill. You're still stuck in tier two.

>that last brain

youtube.com/watch?v=5baWgvEqbeg

reminds me of 13:09 to when he's done with his story

This preacher is some good shit and deserves its own brain meme

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1 Samuel 21:15

>Do I lack madmen, that you have brought this fellow to play the madman in my presence? Shall this fellow come into my house?

Sometimes I can relate

also:

Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

So what the hell are the NJB and NABRE, translated by Catholic scholars and officially approved by the Catholic church?

>2017
>believing in a magical skydaddy
>not being a pastafarian

BLACKED

Matthew 6:24-- "No man can serve two masters, man cannot serve both God and Mammon at the same time"

Sirach 9:1-9

Samuel 2 18:33
And the king was much moved, and went up to the chamber over the gate and wept. And as he went, thus he said, “O my son Absalom, my son, my son Absalom! Would God I had died for thee, O Absalom, my son, my son!”

Agnostic here. I like that one in Song of Solomon that compares boobies to twin roes or whatever.

Ezekiel 23:20 For she doted upon her paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of donkeys, and whose issue is like the issue of horses.

Yeah, it's okay though. Read Exodus, Job, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, and the Gospels.

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

>Jn 12:24
Excellent Veeky Forums choice. It doesn't fit well with anyone in Karamazov; I suppose it was going to apply to Alyosha when Life of a Great Sinner was to be finished

THIS
IN MEATBALLS WE TRUST

>John 1:1
Yes. This.

The Word is God.
That makes the will of God, THE will.

Most of them worship the Father though. Read those books I mentioned in my post. We are being watched by ayy lmaos as we speak, and they even progressed our technology ten-fold. If they were really so evil we would be screwed already. But I'd be interested in looking at your sources as well, if you have ones besides the Jacques Vallee dude.