Boomer Lit General

Are you ready for this book by Pulitzer Prize Nominee Susan Bordo to drop and in the next couple of days and endlessly shit up your all your social media feeds?

>The Destruction of Hillary Clinton is an answer to the question many have been asking: How did an extraordinarily well-qualified, experienced, and admired candidate—whose victory would have been as historic as Barack Obama's—come to be seen as a tool of the establishment, a chronic liar, and a talentless politician?

Her thesis? Not by being a tool of the establishment, a chronic liar, or a talentless politician, but by Bernie Sanders calling her those things (which he is not allowed to because he is male) and by young people not only believing Sanders but also espousing a new (and wrong) kind of progressivism: one that views things like eliminating systemic corruption in politics as more important than continuing the already-won battles of the 1960s.

>Bernie Sanders splintered and ultimately sabotaged the Democratic party – not because he chose to run against Hillary Clinton, but because of how he ran against her.

>“I think, frankly,” he said in January, campaigning in New Hampshire, “it’s hard to be a real progressive and to take on the establishment in a way that I think [it] has to be taken on, when you come as dependent as she has through her super PAC and in other ways on Wall Street and drug-company money.”

>As I watched Sanders enchant the crowds, it was something of a deja vu experience to see a charismatic male politician on stage telling women which issues are and aren’t progressive.

>As one Sanders supporter wrote:
>"Yes, equal rights for women and minorities are critically important. To consider these ideals progressive, however, seems passé. At this point, it’s more fair to suggest they are traditional. Gender and civil rights and equality may remain under attack from the right, but these ideals are positively engrained in two generations of Americans. Progressive voters, at this stage in our young country’s political history, want to challenge corrupt systems. The prison-industrial complex, the military-industrial complex, the financial-industrial complex, and the other lobbies that control our politicians and our government, for example."

>He was seen as authentic in his progressivism while she was pushed to the left by political expediency – as though a lifetime of fighting for equality and children’s rights meant nothing.

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>IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!

Jesus Christ it's embarrassing to be a leftist in this country.

I like how people delude themselves into thinking their opponents are against the tenants of our constitution in regard to equality.

It's really mature.

It's embarrasing to be a leftist in any country.

>>He was seen as authentic in his progressivism while she was pushed to the left by political expediency – as though a lifetime of fighting for equality and children’s rights meant nothing.
what if I told you, dear author, that it did mean nothing?

Anyway, I'm fucking glad Sanders seems to have destroyed, or begun to destroy, the Democratic Party. It deserves to die at this point.

>Not by being a tool of the establishment, a chronic liar, or a talentless politician

Wow so misogynistic. HRC is a strong independent womyn. IT WAS HER TURN!

>mfw fashy goy literally witnessing the sjw left collapse under the weight of its own faggotry and infighting

Do you think these sort of people are actually sincere with their slavish devotion to hillary or is it just cynical (((neoliberal))) shilling?

Her destruction was necessary.

The harder they push the harder it'll come back to bite them. You'd think after the meme-presidency they'd learn but instead they just keep doubling down. At this rate the entire first world will half unironic Nazis in 20 years.

>came to be seen as a tool of Establishment, A Chronic Liar, A Talentless Politician.

OK.
>Establishment puppet.
Wikileaks.

>A Chronic Liar
Benghazi hearings.

>A talentless politician
her politic history is a history of coups and wars in other countries.

The lionization of Hillary after this election has been pretty disappointing. She may have been preferable to the current president (I even voted for her), but that doesn't make her some sort of progressive hero.

>boomer

Generations are nothing but marketing demographics. They literally mean nothing.

I agree, Hillary was probably the lesser of two evils, but her rabid fans were just as deluded as Trump's.

A corrupt career politician from a rich political family who was entrenched in the establishment and changed her views depending on what was fashionable, got held up as this progressive champion of the people.

They even demonised an actual social democrat who was involved in the civil rights movement as a backwards misogynist.

Sanders is a moron (spend money on free college when we have people who lack healthcare? huh?) but no, he did not destroy Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton had no business running if she was going to run such an inept campaign. I don't know if she is actually corrupt or not, but I can tell you 100% for sure: she failed to seem anything other than corrupt. Her failure to electorally defeat a real-life Beavis and Butthead character, a drooling moron like Trump, has not helped to move the US in a particularly good direction.

>inept

That's the real word that describes Clinton, isn't it? If you look at her long history in politics, she has a habit of bungling big deals she gets involved in, even things that look absolutely certain. Health care under Bill, the 2008 primary, Libya, and this campaign. She's not a great finisher.

Yep. I guess Colin Powell was right when he said (according to some leaked materials) that HRC's hubris ruins everything that she touches. I fucking hate Colin Powell for his Iraq war-related bullshit but man, it sounds like he got HRC right.

She's doubling down on what made the Democrats flop so badly - the whole idea that it was somehow Hillary's turn, that she "deserved" it. Does she really think that it would have turned out better if Hillary's path to the nomination was completely smooth? At the time there were articles about how the fight with Sanders had honed Hillary's skills and policies.

>identifies that the reason the democrats lost was internal strife
>sows more internal strife in the democrats

What did Hillary, Bordo and the democratic party mean by this?

Nordic model best model ever conceived :DDD

>At this rate the entire first world will half unironic Nazis in 20 years.

Maybe that's what they want.. wooaah

>Sanders: working class, I'm here for you!
>Hillary: workers are irrelevant, we just need more female CEOs and ''''''empower'''''' female wage slaves
>Trump: Bernie might be a communist but he's right, I need to appeal to the working class
>Trump wins
Clearly she lost because the american people are racist and sexist and not because they're tired of neo-liberalism

To be fair to her, it's ridiculous to think that any Trump policies will help the working class on any wide scale.

Sure, but many of them (foolishly) thought Trump would help them because he knew (or learned) how to speak their language.

Funny how ICs have spied on Trump when he was a private citizen yet only thing they got was a pussy tape.

Mean while there was a mountain of corruption on Hillary released by FBI, WL and Gucci.

Ofcourse, but did he did appeal to them. No matter who wins, we lose.

>Mean while there was a mountain of corruption on Hillary released by FBI, WL and Gucci.

Corruption like... what exactly?

Having debate questions leaked to her before debate, key staff members being involved organising the disruption of trump rallies, stating in an email that the saudi arabian government (not rogue princes) were funding ISIS and then taking their money anyway after a long history of conducting arms deals with them. Let's not forget the billions in foreign government campaign finance that was given to her through the Clinton foundation.

Hilary is very good at keeping her own name from these things, but her campaign and the people around her are constantly implicated in things.

For the record, I've left out all of the other DNC corruption, like the Donna Brazille stuff just because it can't be tied back to Hilary. Common sense says she knew the DNC was trying to stack the deck in her favour and didn't do anything about it.

>Having debate questions leaked to her before debate

minor issue

>key staff members being involved organising the disruption of trump rallies

common dirty tricks... stuff like this has been done by many politicians for years

>stating in an email that the saudi arabian government (not rogue princes) were funding ISIS and then taking their money anyway after a long history of conducting arms deals with them

all major DC figures are implicated in this kind of stuff

>Let's not forget the billions in foreign government campaign finance that was given to her through the Clinton foundation.

same

Is she corrupt? Yes.

More corrupt than the average DC politician? I doubt it.

Was there a smoking gun in the leaked documents?

No.

IT WAS HER TURN!

There was no smoking gun, obviously. But you asked for evidence of corruption, you have it.

I was under the impression that you were trying to pretend that she wasn't.

Hilary is just the face people are angry at. The entrenched political establishment that can do these sort of things with impunity and no accountability is an issue and one that needs to be addressed.

I don't know how the author can just sit there saying Bernie Sanders was responsible for Hillary's loss when he instantly bent the knee to her the moment he lost the primaries and continued to shill for her right until the end of the election. It's rather alarming how these people STILL haven't come to terms why she lost yet.

No, she's definitely corrupt. But I suspect that she manages to be corrupt without breaking many laws... and people wanted the leaks to have clear evidence of some sort of law-breaking in them. More to the point of why I originally responded to your comment... I agree that she is corrupt, but it seems to me that the FBI/Wiki/Gucci leaks didn't really reveal much of this corruption, as opposed to people suspecting it from other sources.

>sexist berniebros sabotaged her!
this is by far my favourite meme

>whose victory would have been as historic as Barack Obama's
you don't get a prize just for being first of [category]
after a black president nothing is really that surprising, except maybe a muslim or something. hell, having a jew like bernie sanders be president would be more historic.
also maybe an openly nonreligious president might have been weird in 2008 but what about now?
t. australian

smoking gun was her lying; under oath in congressional hearings about Benghazi.

>you don't get a prize just for being first of [category]

Yes you do, Obama got a nobel for it.

>minor issue
How is gaining an unfair advantage in an important event that is supposed to be impartial, and not notifying the organisers or police about it, but instead taking advantage of it, minor?

>More corrupt than the average DC politician? I doubt it.
The average DC politician doesn't have the DNC and media engage in a conspiracy to have them nominated.

>Common sense says she knew the DNC was trying to stack the deck in her favour and didn't do anything about it.

> Hitch will never write a scathing critique of Shillary

This desu. If you're right wing in the Nordic countries you're either old money or you're an mouthbreathing retard.

>Pulitzer Prize Nominee
>Nominee

Inevitable too

Yea because all that leftism is working out just swell for Sweden.

Those are neo-libs. The only real leftists in Sweden are poor miners from the north.

Clinton lost because of two reasons
1. Identity politics is now considered elitist, the traditional labour class is alienated from contemporary leftist politics
2. Her campaign was incredibly lazy because the media unanimously 'predicted' that she had a 90% winning chance. She didn't campaign in crucial states and her whole campaign basically revolved around 'vote for me I have a vagina'

Obama succeeded in getting re-elected twice because he masterfully created a mythology around him. He manifested himself (falsely, of course) as a Messiah: a peacemaker and someone who would start the period of a post-racial world. Of course neither of these were true, but his PR wasn't lazy in the least, it even won him a Nobel Prize before he even started.

Sweden is like the number 4 most happy country in the world, contrary to the USA which is somewhere in the top 15

What difference does it make?

>your social media feeds
my what?

Modern Sweden is full neoliberal today, Social Democracy broke down in the late 70s and ain't coming back. Scandinavia has been moving to the right for years.

>the traditional labour class
Who is this? Unemployed coal miners in their mid-50s who want to LARP in closed mines? Most of the "traditional labour class" just became economically useless and don't want to adapt to change so went on welfare, started doing heroin and whine about how the good old days are gone and want corporations to pay them to do unprofitable tasks today.
Republicans were real good at messaging that government regulations were stopping private corporations from providing you with well paying jobs so they won but of course mining operations have become so effective you require massively less labour than 20 years ago and it will just keep dropping. The left overs will just have their little government hand outs cut now.
Identity politics is what fills the void left over, people self identify as hicks and drive pick ups in suburbs. If you don't think most people on the right build their lives around fictive identities you're wrong.

what does this even have to do with leftism?

>How is gaining an unfair advantage in an important event that is supposed to be impartial, and not notifying the organisers or police about it, but instead taking advantage of it, minor?
"Heads up Hilldawg, the debate in Flint, Michigan will have a question relating to water quality. Bring your game face gurlfriend >:)"

>from a rich political family
It was her and her husband. Bernie Sanders is from a political family almost as much of a political family as she was.

>killed TPP
>looking to tarriff Chinese goods

These are things the left has been clamouring over for years, but because it comes from a brute and vulgur mouth you will sit here convinced that the American working class would've been better off in any other realistic political situation.

>Obama's era saw more bombing than anything since Vietnam & highest "racial tensions" since the 90s.

Top kek how utterly hard Americans got played. Not even touching the Guantanamo meme issue and his acceptance of the Surveillance State lols.

Hopefully Trumpet burns it all down

>Hopefully Trumpet burns it all down

>he still believes in Trump

It's funny how the leftist seemingly hate everything that Trump does that aligns with leftist views - as you point out. There was a time when leftist would've been amazed with peaceful relations to Russia, giving the boot to supranational agreements, tariffs etc.

It truly is something of a marvel the American cognitive dissonance that happened-is-happening during 2016-2017

That's toss, I don't buy whatever model was used to calculate that for one minute. I'm a Swede, and we're the most anti-social, suicidal bunch of autists you'll ever meet. Whoever thinks that Social Democratism did anything but completely and utterly ruin our civil society ought to be shot. Armchair retards who have never even been here and realized how shit it is need to rethink their romanticism, or have it done for them.

all my norsk buddies say the exact opposite their cities. how does swedish social democracy differ from norwegian social democracy?

How scientific do you think these goofy little happiness charts are bud

Norwegian Social Democracy has always been less aggressive and more focused on the traditional folk spirit. Don't ask me what's cause and what's effect. Norwegians have their own bucketload of problems, but at least they have a nicer civil society in many ways.

So the Swedes are happy their country is swirling down the shitter? I'd believe it honestly.

Is it true that Swedes are libs out of nationalism?

Like they don't actually believe in leftist shit, but they think it must be the best system in the world because it's theirs ?

It wasn't Bernie bros or Russians or twitter bots or ignoring Michigan or a diabolical technology system. It was Comey's letter to Congress. What did that letter show? Nothing, but it sank Clinton's approval rating and caused a surge in Trump's right before election day.

Yeah, well I mean the average person in the street will always just parrot whatever they were told in school and by state media, so that's not so surprising. But I wouldn't say that Swedes don't believe in leftist shit, just that most people have no understanding of how the world works and hold views that are internally inconsistent (i.e. wanting to help refugees but preferring to spend the money on extremely expensive integration programs rather than aiding under-financed humanitarian orgs).
We do have a sort of weird leftist nationalism, where everyone is really proud that we are the country that is taking in the most refugees and has the highest marginal taxes and so on.

They also lead the world in anti-depressant consumption. How can they be happy if they need so many drugs? Perhaps there's a problem with the way happiness is being defined.

>lesser of two evils
>voting for evil

>These variables currently include: real GDP per capita, social support, healthy life expectancy, freedom to make life choices, generosity, and perceptions of corruption.

Yeah, a complete joke, as expected.

>Identity politics is now considered elitist
>things ignorant niggers do is elite
Ill take note of that

Have you even read that book? He spends an entire chapter on her

>things ignorant niggers do is elite
The point is that they are manipulated by the elites, useful idiots, so to speak

Killing spree is the new elitist behavior.

I was with Bernie for all of a month, then I realized that he was an old Jew who had accomplished nothing while in Congress and decided to vote Clinton in the primary and Trump in November.
The idea that Clinton was qualified because of her experience is fallacious because she has never done a good job at anything other than gaining money and power. Her tenure as SoS was terrible. She voted yes on Iraq.

>who had accomplished nothing while in Congress
That's false. Most Congressmen don't write their own bills and just add amendments to others. Sanders had the most roll-call amendments passed out of any of his peers when he left Congress.

So what? What has he accomplished other than protecting the 22nd amendment rights of Vermonters, which something that most Democrats don't even want? Sanders isn't a Dem, he didn't deserve the nomination and he wouldn't have been able to work with the liberals to accomplish a socially democratic agenda.

>still blaming hillary's demise on Bernie

For fucks sake, when will they learn? She did it to herself. Trump may have no actual plan to help the working class, but at least he tried to make it seem like he had one. Hillary's entire gameplan was built around "fuck drumpf and fuck white people".

Pic related. Why she lost. Not because of Bernie. Case closed.

They won't learn till the last Boomer is hanged with the entrails of the last hippie.

>There was a time when leftist would've been amazed with peaceful relations to Russia
hell no, Russia has always been a human rights nightmare, and the reason the right has hated Russia was because of communism and their being the main competitor to the US in geopolitics. sure you can say that leftists generally want "world peace" but turning a blind eye to human rights violations while profiting from Russian companies does not constitute a reduction of world violence.

well even black people are getting into the tortuous academic arguments like "blak ppl cant be racis cuz truRacism (tm) can only occur power+prejudice"

the academization of identity politics is undeniably elitist

>She's not a great finisher
Watching her concert celebration in Philadelphia the night before the election was what did it for me. One hour West there are counties that she lost by as little as 3% that were prime blue collar counties. Instead, she had a party with Obama in a city where she got 81%.

I don't care if it wasn't her idea. She should have put her foot down and said we can't celebrate before the election because it might effect turnout. Or just, you know, don't celebrate until you've won.

This is the sort of shit that seems like an immediate gotcha, but really, only to fucking retards.

People who are on antidepressants report themselves as profoundly unhappy. The non-medicated people just make up for it cause they're so swell.

Can I get a source for this? Preferably from the Scandinavian region?

It seems contradictory that people taking medication for profound unhappiness are still, on the whole, profoundly unhappy. Especially once their dosage has been adjusted, which doctors seem pretty competent at.

I've only been on anti-anxiety meds, and yeah, I was still unhappy, but not anxious one bit. The people who I know who have been on happy pills are generally happy, if zombie-like and flatlined personality wise.

From my time in Scandinavia, staying with my girlfriend's parents, it's an incredibly solitary and somber culture, yet with a surprising herd mentality and a superiority complex. I had a professor from Norway that says it's a very similar thing there. Anecdotal, but I've never heard otherwise.

Just so we're clear....

Veeky Forums didn't actually think trainwreck Hillary was a good candidate right?

I know the majority of you are bluepilled cucks who hate Trump, but we can at least find common ground in thinking Hillary is terrible I hope.

Nobody in the world actually thought she was a good candidate

It actually does, since peace is the opposite of war, not of violence, you retard.

She was much better than Trump. Sanders aligns with my political ideals so I voted for him but Clinton understood the system of power the Democrats built and was a fitting leader if not ideal. There was a lot shit that was either thrown her way (Comey in particular) and she also got pneumonia at an old age while campaigning which really hurt her. She also surrounded herself with sycophants but that didn't hurt Trump.

She sucked, but she was much much better than Trump. If you legitimately like Trump, you are basically a knuckle-dragging retard. As for Sanders, I trust him as a person more than I trust Clinton, but I don't like his populism (or Trump's). Populism is what has given us mass totalitarian movements, historically.

Hillary Clinton is a war criminal and a serial killer. She rigs elections, stole from the people in Haiti, and commits treason and perjury on a near daily basis.

What's Trump's worst crime? Being a heterosexual man who likes pussy?

If you unironically think she's better than Trump, kill yourself my man.
Trump is the best president we've had since JFK.

just a masculine manly man in locker room talk


choke on your silver spoon bootlicker, Hillary and Trump are the same bourgeois puppet

>he uses terms like "bourgeous puppet" with a straight face
>thinks Hillary Clinton isn't one of the most evil people who ever lived

Wew lad, the real world is going to hit you hard.

and we're not at war with russia, so trump's softening on anti-russia foreign policy does nothing to reduce violence and instead enables them to support violence around the world, retard.

>What's Trump's worst crime?
he doesn't have to be a criminal to still be a trash politician

>choke on your silver spoon bootlicker, Hillary and Trump are the same bourgeois puppet

Do you have any real arguments on how Trump is worse in any meaningful way?

Trump doesn't need to be a god emperor, he just needs to be a stick of dynamite.

>in the next couple of days and endlessly shit up your all your social media feeds?
The first to be guilty of this being (you). Fuck off to Veeky Forums or /pol/.

this says boomer lit but really this is basically a pol thread on lit. fuck off your politics don't have a place on a literature board.

I think of Cenk on Election night. I don't watch the young turks really and I get the impression that they are not at all that serious of a news source. That being said...I agreed with him in the election meltdown that's since circulated YouTube--coincidentally the first TYT clip I have ever seen. To paraphrase him, a milquetoast, corporatist, statist shill that was hoisted upon the platform by the DNC at the expense of Sanders couldn't defeat a dangerous madman buffoon.

youtube.com/watch?v=UiWY0iRLV94

for those interested

I can't wait for the next civil war