Top-performing countries in PISA, like Japan, Korea and Singapore in Asia, Estonia and Finland in Europe, and Canada in North America, also come out on top in the PISA assessment of collaborative problem solving.
Some 125,000 15-year-olds in 52 countries and economies took part in the test, which analyses for the first time how well students work together as a group, their attitudes towards collaboration and the influence of factors such as gender, after-school activities and social background.
>“In a world that places a growing premium on social skills, education systems need to do much better at fostering those skills systematically across the school curriculum,” said OECD Secretary-General Angel Gurría Treviño. >“Parents and society at large must play their part too. It takes collaboration across a community to develop better skills for better lives.”
Girls are much better than boys at working together to solve problems
Jonathan Cruz
Students who have stronger reading or maths skills tend to be better at collaborative problem-solving because managing and interpreting information, and the ability to reason, are required to solve problems. The same is true across countries.
Juan Phillips
However, students in Australia, Japan, Korea, New Zealand and the United States perform better in collaborative problem solving than would be expected based on their scores in science, reading and mathematics. But students in the four Chinese provinces that took part in PISA (Beijing, Shanghai, Jiangsu and Guangdong) do less well compared to their results in mathematics and science.
Jason Murphy
Distribution
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Ian Lee
Girls do better than boys in every country and economy that took the test, by the equivalent of half a year’s schooling on average (29 points). On average across OECD countries, girls are 1.6 times more likely than boys to be top performers in collaborative problem solving, while boys are 1.6 times more likely than girls to be low achievers. This is in sharp contrast to the findings of the 2012 individual problem-solving test which found that boys performed better than girls.
Juan Williams
Where are the African countries, OP? XP
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Dylan Kelly
Any explanation for this?
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Liam Reyes
meanwhile, somewhere back in mountain view, someone got fired for suggesting women may prefer pair programming...
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Daniel Ward
Not op but I believe countries can opt in or out of PISA. Also some countries can be very selective of who gets tested which is why China gets mentioned three times in the charts.
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Jordan Flores
It's never been about actually helping things, just a new dogma
men are le bad and women need gibs
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Red Pill
If you remove the scores of blacks, the USA is #1 on pretty much all of these tests
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Joseph Perry
Average scores of U.S. 15-year-old students on the PISA collaborative problem solving scale, by race/ethnicity in U.S.: 2015
Non-Hispanic Asian—Massachusetts (public school students only) 577 Non-Hispanic Asian—North Carolina (public school students only) 568 Non-Hispanic White—Massachusetts (public school students only) 562 Non-Hispanic Asian—United States 559 Massachusetts (public school students only) 549 Non-Hispanic Multiracial—Massachusetts (public school students only) 546 Non-Hispanic White—North Carolina (public school students only) 546 Non-Hispanic White—United States 550 North Carolina (public school students only) 525 Non-Hispanic Multiracial—United States 523 United States 520 Non-Hispanic Multiracial—North Carolina (public school students only) 512 Hispanic (all races)—North Carolina (public school students only) 512 Non-Hispanic Black—Massachusetts (public school students only) 505 OECD (32 countries) average 500 Hispanic (all races)—United States 497 Hispanic (all races)—Massachusetts (public school students only) 497 Non-Hispanic Black—North Carolina (public school students only) 481 Non-Hispanic Black—United States 471
Julian Thompson
Can some burger explain me why Massachusetts does so well?
Brandon Harris
Nope, East Asia still does better but that's mostly because China selects what provinces get in, South Korea kids are at school for +14 hours on average a day (primary +supplementary) and Japan are straight up moon people.
Samuel Thomas
>South Korea kids are at school for +14 hours on average a day (primary +supplementary) This anglo meme has to end
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Singapore 561 British Columbia (Canada) 561 Japan 552 Massachusetts (public schools only) 549 Alberta (Canada) 543 Hong Kong-China 541 Korea 538 Canada 535 Estonia 535 Finland 534 Macao-China 534 Nova Scotia (Canada) 533 New Zealand 533 Ontario (Canada) 532 Australia 531 Prince Edward Island (Canada) 529 Chinese Taipei 527 North Carolina (public schools only) 525 Germany 525 Newfoundland and Labrador (Canada) 521 England (United Kingdom) 521 United States 520 Denmark 520 United Kingdom 519 Flemish community (Belgium) 519 Madrid (Spain) 519 Manitoba (Canada) 519 Netherlands 518 New Brunswick (Canada) 517 Castile and Leon (Spain) 517 Northern Ireland (United Kingdom) 514 Scotland (United Kingdom) 513 Bolzano (Italy) 512 Sweden 510 Austria 509 Saskatchewan (Canada) 508 Navarre (Spain) 505 Catalonia (Spain) 505 Norway 502 Slovenia 502 Belgium 501 Trento (Italy) 500 Iceland 499 Aragon (Spain) 499 Czech Republic 499 Portugal 498 Lombardia (Italy) 498 Castile-La Mancha (Spain) 497 Spain 496 Wales (United Kingdom) 496 B-S-J-G (China) 496 Asturias (Spain) 496
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La Rioja (Spain) 495 Galicia (Spain) 494 France 494 German-speaking community (Belgium) 493 Comunidad Valenciana (Spain) 492 Luxembourg 491 Balearic Islands (Spain) 488 Murcia (Spain) 486 Latvia 485 Cantabria (Spain) 485 Canary Islands (Spain) 484 Basque Country (Spain) 484 Andalusia (Spain) 483 French community (Belgium) 479 Italy 478 Dubai (UAE) 47 Extremadura (Spain) 474 Bogotá (Colombia) 474 Russia 473 Croatia 473 Hungary 472 Israel 469 Lithuania 467 Região Autónoma dos Açores (Portugal) 467 Slovak Republic 463 Greece 459 Chile 457 Medellín (Colombia) 453 Manizales (Colombia) 451 Cyprus 444 Bulgaria 444 Campania (Italy) 443 Uruguay 443 Costa Rica 441 Cali (Colombia) 440 Thailand 436 United Arab Emirates 435 Mexico 433 Colombia 429 Sharjah (UAE) 429 Turkey 422 Abu Dhabi (UAE) 422 Peru 418 Montenegro 416 Brazil 412 Ajman (UAE) 412 Fujairah (UAE) 402 Ras Al Khaimah (UAE) 400 Umm Al Quwain (UAE) 394 Tunisia 382
*Quebec (Canada) (possible non-response bias) 534
Bentley Ross
SMALLER SAMPLE SIZE
Joshua Wood
Not true
Isaac Barnes
Brazil is such a shithole, you have a European / Jewish upperclass that exploit >100 million mullato / black underclass, look at what McDonald's is doing there the NY times wrote an article about it it's fucking disgusting.
This is why I'm fucking worried about European not having a ethnic identity as strong as the Jews, this is the end result now, a mullato underclass with an average IQ off 90 will be created all over the western world, and we will have a new Brazil.
It's insane how almost no one realizes this.
Am I wrong? Will crisp save us?
Noah White
So this is "Collaborative Problem Solving Skills"? >analyses for the first time how well students work together as a group, their attitudes towards collaboration and the influence of factors such as gender, after-school activities and social background.
But do they specify what kind of problems they had to solve(and did they actually manage to solve them), because usually most research involving "gender and social background" tend to be sjw tier and skewed. I can see that UK is in above OECD average, now I had an 'opportunity' to attend school in UK (year 10) and holy shit, their education level is absolute dog shit, its so dumbed down. In fact I would say they care less what you learn about the subject(s) but more about working and participating in groups, its really sjw tier education. No surprise that they have done so well in these scores.
Leo Lee
If you remove the worst scoring demographic your score gets better. Wow I think you're onto something
Joshua Gonzalez
>Israel 469 Why so low? Seems at odds with Nobel Prize statistics etc.
Julian Martinez
>women remember that PISA only gives us information about 15-year-old students enrolled in school
Joshua Ramirez
Maybe before puberty hits - then all they do is passively-aggressively bring each other down.
Dylan Jackson
>straight up moon people. It's the cram schools that ensure they either excel, or die of an aneurysm trying.
Nathaniel Morales
as you can see here of all the participating countries in PISA 2015, 15-year-olds in Japan are actually one of students that spend the least time studying, and this is including learning time doing homework, in cram schools, with tutors, parents, etc., of course you would know this if at least you'd have dedicated five minutes reading previous posts or reading current literature about education, but hey, I think it's easier and better to dismiss empirical data because it doesn't fit with your preconceived and stereotypical worldview of the world, especially when it comes to East Asian countries
Noah King
Did you see the kind of backlash that guy received? He might as well have been dealing with 15yr olds, and that's putting it generously.
Samuel Perry
>His country isn`t in the top left quadrant
Kevin Gutierrez
as a east asia fag, PISA scores aren't a good gauge of ability or problem solving skills because majority cram the living shit out of textbooks, for the people I meet in school and certain outside of school events memorise formulas and sometimes complete essays examples, they outright suck ass at solving actual/practical problems they face >be in fake UN conference >90% of people there have no idea how to create policies using basic logic and ideas >when giving speeches, they just copy pasta one another's speeches I have no idea what other countries are like but for east asia, it is just a bunch of brainlets that crammed till they are 'smart' with few exceptions
Benjamin Adams
Ever notice how it's always the males in species that have to compete for female attention?
John Long
Thats what all the asian countries are doing. Do you think they let rice farmers from the country side take these tests?
Juan Gray
>Le memorization meme
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Luis Nguyen
I highly doubt those New Zealand numbers are accurate. Having lived there the student body are full stop the dumbest people I've ever met no lie, and I was in one of the richest areas (aka not filled with underprivileged brainlet islanders).
Inspection in hell. The first cauldron and a lot of devils around it, sinners climb out of it in concert, and devils fight and push them back. Who's there? The Jews, very united people. The second cauldron and only one devil around it, from time to time someone climbs out of it and the devil pushes him back. Who's there? The Americans, individualists. The third cauldron and no devils around it. Who's there? The Russians, when somebody tries to climb out of it, others pull him back.
Justin Richardson
Germs are slackers, ewww.
Liam Moore
One word: Arabs.
Jaxon Richardson
How does Singapore do it? I thought they are small as fuck
Carter Rivera
Non-haredi Jews make up only around 65% of Israel population
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Angel Davis
Finland is literally being carried by girls
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Joshua Rogers
Indubitably there is great science here. Trouble is, I cannot understand a single word. Care to summarise?
Gabriel Wilson
2 very good unis (MIT and Havard) influence the quality of local schools
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Luis Morris
They are just highlighting the gap between "Hebrew-speakers" and "Arabic speakers" in Israel in the main three domains tested in PISA, which are from right to left in that figure, science literacy, reading literacy and mathematics literacy, for example Hebrew-speakers in Israel scored an average of 507 points in reading literacy which is similar to countries like Macau (509), New Zealand (509), Germany (509) or Poland (506) but Arabic-speakers in Israel scored on average 391 points which is similar to countries like Georgia (401), Peru (398) or Indonesia (397), as a whole, Israel (cells with red background) scored 479 points in reading literacy , which is not statistically significant (cells with a shaded background) from Czech Republic, Croatia, Viet Nam, Austria, Italy, Iceland, Luxembourg, CABA (Argentina) nor Lithuania.
Obviously similar gaps between Hebrew and Arabic speakers in Israel were also found in the Collaborative problem solving assessment
Jaxon Howard
Tunisia was the first country from Africa to take part in PISA doing so in 2003 then we had to wait until PISA 2015 to see another country, Algeria, from that continent joining in and Morocco already joined to have her results published for PISA 2018, other countries that joined for the first time in 2018 are Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brunei Darussalam, Philippines and Ukraine, other countries still have time to join for PISA 2021 but as far as I know the only other new country that is sure to participate in 2021 is Bhutan
Julian Wilson
Yes, PISA is a voluntary assessment, the only countries "bound" to participate are OECD members, but if a country is not equipped to take part in such an international large scale assessment, regions of that country can participate on their own, this has been the case for example with the state of Miranda in Venezuela, the states of Himachal Pradesh and Tamil Nadu in India and the municipality of Shanghai in China in 2009, in the case of countries like China or India because of technical reasons is not yet possible to carry out an assessment like PISA for the whole country but China is expected to participate as a whole unit in PISA 2024 or 2021 and India in 2030 or 2024.
for example, in my country there are 3 simultaneous levels of high school, level 1 gets you for example car mechanic / low level IT / administrative, level 3 gets you into university, how do I know they selected all levels equally?
Aaron Peterson
That difference is just enormous! And how finely do you guys slice the onion? I hear some of you still relate families to the original 12 tribes, is that true? And what are the other lines, including the blue and green text?
I am getting spam in Hebrew these days but that does not help me understand anything. At least I can feed that into Google Translate.
Oliver Howard
How can this be a negative correlation?
David Mitchell
The correlation is negative across countries (as you can see onthe figure) but positive within countries (i.e. teens that study more in Korea score higher that teens that do not in Korea, teens that study more in Thailand score higher than those who do not, teens that study more in Uruguay score higher than the ones that study less in Uruguay, etc.) and well if you think about it, is not really that hard to see why, I mean learning is always the product of the quality of learning and the quantity of learning. And besides PISA is designed to test real life skills, what you can do with what you know, as you can see here , so things that you do outside of what is traditionally considered learning can also help you maybe to have a higher PISA score.
Jonathan Ross
the blue text in the tables is Hebrew-speakers and the green text is Arabic-speakers
german here, without turks we'd be the masters of smart&lazy
Caleb Adams
And the rest of the lines, are those other countries?
Dominic Hall
So yeah, we would have to wait at least until PISA 2024 to see more African countries joining in, the next logical options would be South Africa, Egypt, Ghana or Botswana given that they already have experience participating in other international large-scale assessments, or maybe Senegal or Zambia because they are taking part in PISA-D
Thomas Hughes
>muh race
half the smart people go to law school and public office to exploit the country's bureaucracy
Angel Nguyen
what's wrong with Tunisians?
Levi Sanchez
Earlier physical and neurological maturity. Girls peak early which is why us boys get all flustered around them in envy and a weird feeling in the peepee.