>send three of my recently completed poems that I put a lot of theory and craft into our to publishers >wait 6 months >the five or so places I submitted poetry to responds with a simple "we enjoyed__ but it's not right for us!!!!" >look at their other published >One poem was literally the word water rearranged a bunch of times each line
what the fuck man. Where can I publish modernist/naturalist poetry?
>One poem was literally the word water rearranged a bunch of times each line What? Like
Water Water .. Water water?
Ethan Foster
post something of yours then, fag. also post the water poem.
Parker Harris
Whats your problem son? I'll write you a poem. Go ahead, you can use it.
Stars and Strippers
God blows the US of ASS. Haven't you heard: Crash! That was your mom. What=? You want a poem? How? TRUMPTRUMPTRUM PTRUMPTRMPTRMP TRPTRPTRPTRTRTRRRRRRR RISE RISE RICE
Elijah Fisher
You never did the Kenosha, kid.
Evan Lewis
Can't even find it now, but it was just like this:
all I see is water water water water sinking water water water water water water sinking water sinking water water water water water water . . .
you get the point
This is one of the poems I sent out:
Innocent Glaucus
O innocent Glaucus of the Argo! The bosky turf revved immortality, And though His scalened self senectuous, Time has altered not the water of His. To fade and to pass through modern tiding, And not of the blue waves he takes hiding . . . Woe is Glaucus of the sea--forced to see Waves harsher than his cruel maiden Scylla. Better to bathe in Lethes of the sea Than to live until Earth shall cease to be.
Landon Gomez
>O innocent Glaucus of the Argo! I have bad news, user
Neo-Classicism went out of style in the 1830s.
Juan Butler
>yet a poem of water by a black woman rearranged 40 times is "in"
That's why I'm asking if there is a journal/magazine for neo-classicism/modernist poetry.
The other two are not Neo-Classical. I sent three different ones to see if any found a spot in the journals. One was pretty contemporary, the other Modern.
Colton Ward
Yes, it's those liberal SJWs keep you down my friend. Not because your poetry doesn't relate to the (post)modern zeitgeist
Camden Peterson
Yeah blame everything on the Germans why don't you.
Ayden Phillips
You've still got your name on, friend
Not sure what the Germans have to do with any of this, though
Asher Ross
aw jeez meant to put that as title > zeitgeist clearly an attempt to pin the blame on the Huns
Samuel Reed
So because I don't want to write shitty poetry, I'm trying too hard?
For the third time, I'm just looking for some journals/magazines that aren't aimed towards postmodern poetry or any of that.
Andrew Sanchez
Are you okay? You're replying to the wrong post. Worried for you.
Lucas Morris
Hey man, no need to get sore over some poetry.
Thomas Evans
>tfw op is an idiot that can't get published when it's literally the easiest thing on the planet to do
Cameron Morris
It's my passion. I'm not all too upset but it's frustrating.
Caleb Thomas
Have you tried google? Just about every poetry journal that isn't explicitly PoMo is stuck in the mire of literary modernism
If you're really getting so fucked about not writing PoMo than you should come up with your own aesthetic theory and publish your own journal. Don't try to frankenstein long-dead poetic movements like neo-classicism.
Jaxon Adams
well I was diagnosed with Schizotypal PD a week ago and I'm starting to thing I might literally be developing dyslexia because I've been misreading things for a few months now with increasing frequency
Andrew Walker
Most things are.
Tyler Brooks
> scalened self senectuous > sea see sea be theres a reason this wasnt accepted... its snobby and also bad
Robert Lopez
I don't think you can develop dyslexia but there are all kinds of mental health impediments to reading that are unrelated to intellectual disabilities.
Hope you're getting the help and support you need, man. Shit's rough.
Caleb King
I'd love to just start up my own journal but I have no idea how that'll get started. In all seriousness I'll look into it
I'd just rather not force poetry to fit a certain mold for publishers
poetry is pretty hard to publish honestly :'( sure it is. Do something better
Noah Young
It's pretty easy, especially if you're affiliated with a university. Creative project grant money, student union money, etc. Of course the more people you have on-board the easier to get funding and, well, legitimacy.
Also look into government and private sector grants for creative writing and such. There's all sorts of untapped money that you can get if you've got hustle and a brain.
Landon Peterson
two years ago I was diagnosed with DPDR which basically means that I live in a state where I feel completely detached from my body. It honestly makes reading much easier because I can 'leave' the real world when I start to read and become fully absorbed in the story. Given a few sentences or a context of a scene from a book I've read I usually visualize the scene pretty accurately.
Joseph Martin
I would disagree with you saying you have to publish shitty poetry, but I feel like poetry has had it's day in the sun. That's why reductive and abstract poetry about identity politics is all that's left
Write prose.
Julian Taylor
I'm not amazing at prose. Pretty hard to find publishers who aren't somehow politically biased, too
Any prose lads care to drop in on the state of prose and submissions?
Cameron Edwards
*its day in the sun, not "it's"
looks like my prose is fucked, anyway
Robert Davis
Give yourself a break, man. It's okay.
Zachary Cooper
If you want to write something for a non-politically biased publisher, you better start reading Stephen King.
And writing genre fic.
Juan Foster
>O innocent Glaucus of the Argo! Holy fuck i'm in tears. What the fuck is actually wrong with you, O massive Spergulus?
Aiden Wilson
>hey look he posted a poem in a style I don't appreciate >WHAT A FAG
You shouldn't be on a literature board
Adam Reyes
this is too melodramatic. not even conservative mags will accept poems with straight vocatives in them.
Angel Williams
>writes a "poem" explaining that if he leaves the bathroom without a book he was jerking off, and if he leaves the house he might get laid >already has several books of poetry published Found this gem in some magazine. I just don't understand.
John Fisher
Isn't that self-published?
Samuel Cook
Why didn't you look into the journals BEFORE sending submissions? Fucking idiot.
Daniel Johnson
Can you imagine if it's not?
Guaranteed to be salt in any writers wound
OP, Being published is hard. I won't be Princeton young playwright award and I still find trouble getting anything published. Good poem, but like other posters said, Neo-Classical is dusted over
Ryan Barnes
Who said I didn't, you ignorant fuck.
I looked through the issue that ended up getting published and I found the water poem.
Brandon Anderson
Won the* Sorry That's probably why
Juan Hill
It's just as bad if not worse. If anything, poetry is somewhat easier because there are no real standards. With prose editors get alot more autistic.
Juan Jackson
What market is there for that kind poetry. Few want to read that and I think many are satisfied by the poetry made when that style was fashionable.
Camden Foster
This guy with poems.... If you want them to be read by humanz, your best bet is to stick them inside a bums asshole.
Charles Reyes
>Salinated fields; boy unharmed by plow. >Virile Odysseus! Amidst spray and sea foam >(Aphrodite gives no berth) stern upon the prow. >A score as yet to settle- to account for, how? >Warrior and wanderer, heaven forced to roam >Native Cephalonian, twenty years from loam!
i shit this crummy poem out in a few minutes for fun, but learn to take criticism man
Joseph Roberts
Not even him
But that's just purposely shit.
Evan Smith
hasha then right a poem dude and prove to me i should take youre criticism :)
Evan Torres
Doth'st thou not wonder? If, at wend of breath, The great Lung yonder, Who we call Star's Space, Returns, from darkness Of her chest, the face Of things to far end's end
LOL rhyming and profiling aint even mad bro. English is my third language.
I guess that's where OP can send his stuff. Though I would suggest he works a bit more on that Glaucus one before he shows it to the public.
Isaiah Russell
any constructive criticism?
That journal seems pretty prestigious. Likely needs some background in publishing
Jordan Sanders
You're trying way too hard to sound "classical" and in the end your poem is less understandable (vocabulary-wise) than Shakespeare and terribly pretentious. I can't decipher any real meaning or sincere emotion from all these Greek names.
>Lethes of the sea What the fuck is this? "Rivers of the sea"? Do you realize how nonsensical this metaphor is? And what's going on with that rhyme? There's none, then there's some, then it's all over the place and also it's comically lazy.
Justin Johnson
Like some user pointed out, sea-see-sea-be is pretty atrocious and your imagery seems rather weak. The opening line seems almost parodic of german classicist poetry.
Mason Hall
thanks cuties
Sebastian Williams
The way you described it I thought it would be something like:
water twrae ertwa awret rwtae
At least then it gives an image, a sensation, and some vague theory behind.
Evan Robinson
yours is just as bad as that water one
Nicholas Johnson
post your own work fag.
OP, your poem is fine. All of these fags who claim your rhymes are stupid are poetry retarded. The opening line is a little bad, but everything else is fine.
remember, Veeky Forums doesn't read, and they sure as hell don't know how to judge a poem. How the fuck do you not know what Lethes is? Look it up Rhyme isn't all there is to a poem though?? Why couldn't OP use internal and a few end rhymes?
Like this user said, the imagery is blah. Sea-see-be-sea isn't bad. Don't worry about changing it t. actual published poet
Elijah Williams
I love neo-classicism poetry, but even this was a bit too much for me. If you combined the classic ideas/narratives with a more post-modern structure maybe it'd be okay...but man. Your word choice makes the poem excessively convoluted, and the rhyme seems very forced.
Isaac Hill
Well, I'd think he was referring to the Lethe, I don't see why he would pluralize it.
John Wilson
I know what Lethe is, that's why the metaphor makes no sense to me. Lethe is one specific river. How can a sea have a river? Not just a river, it has to have multiple(!) the river. (I wrote this intentionally, to capture how nonsensical the original line is.) I understand the point, but the metaphor is very, very awkward and clumsy.
And the rhyme? I don't know, I expect some consistency in that regard, throwing unusual rhymes around randomly doesn't sound good to me.
Gabriel Edwards
Sorry OP but unless you're an established poet and have something under your belt people are gonna think you're jusy a tryhard. Stick to a modern sound and keep the rest tucked away somewhere safe so you can publish it in a collection.