>be me >be in an engineering field, but have an interest in literature and stuff >be walking with a friend of mine who's a mathematical genius, but pretty dumb when it comes to writing and history and stuff, so I help him in those and he helps me in calculus and physics and stuff >we start talking about each other's future >tell him that he's going to be a great physicist or something because he's truly talented >then out of nowhere he tells me in a belittling tone: "you're just going to be a writer" >feel sad because he can't appreciate literature, but laugh anyway >later on, it dawns on me that he's probably right and that I only read because I can't do mathematics and real intellectual stuff
I think most of you "intellectuals" can't do mathematics and physics and that is why you read literature. Just like me, you want to think that you're smarter than average. But the reality is you're not. Reading doesn't make you smarter, especially if you're reading fiction. I think this is the reddest red pill I've had to swallow so far.
Jaxson Jenkins
I've been redpilling myself through the lectures of a certain canadian for the past week. So let me ask you something that he likes to say:
What are you going to do with this information?
Logan Kelly
Incredible bait. I especially liked the attempt to sympathize. Making yourself seem like "one of us" is really a genius move. Top quality shitpost. I hope to see this one around more after today.
Nathan Bailey
Shit, I'm even hearing his voice now. Get off of my fucking head, Jordan.
Parker Roberts
>STEM """people""" Political correctness gone too far.
Nathan Mitchell
This is some low quality bait. Why would you save such retarded underage rant?
Jace Stewart
Stay mad, humanities cuckboy. Hope you enjoy taxi driving.
Christopher Long
Because despite the rambling he's right.
Hunter Reyes
I sort of agree, but I don't think literature/philosophy/etc. is any less "intellectual" or valuable than mathematics and science.
The truth is that every intelligent man in history has been able to comprehend the more technical subjects. My opinion is that if you're able to comprehend the complexities of literature, then you can at least in theory understand math/science. But most Veeky Forumsfags are unwilling to spend the time to learn those things (which is understandable); therefore, they suck at them; then they come up with rationalizations for why they're bad.
Sebastian Howard
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Connor Diaz
Right about what? It's literally a slightly more verbose 'hurr durr stupid stemfags'. Even disregarding the fact that the whole stem/humanities dichotomy doesn't exist irl outside the minds of autistic internet dwellers, there's literally nothing of value in that mess.
Tyler Myers
If you think "STEM people" are like robots, then you have a misinformed conception of the sciences. Being dismissive of the sciences is just as retarded as being dismissive of the humanities.
Brayden Bennett
Who the fuck would read all that shit? tldr it and point where i should laugh
Brandon Howard
I'm sorry you feel that way. >Even disregarding the fact that the whole stem/humanities dichotomy doesn't exist irl outside the minds of autistic internet dwellers Ironic considering it does in fact exist, how are you this stupid?
>If you think "STEM people" are like robots The majority are, I know this from painful experience. >Being dismissive of the sciences is just as retarded as being dismissive of the humanities. When was I dismissive? We were talking about the people not the subjects themselves.
Liam Peterson
OP, I am also an engineering with an interest in literature and philosophy. I think you're an idiot for believing in the dichotomy of the two fields.
Philosophy has helped develop my way of thinking just as much as studying calculus and physics. It helps me relieve stress, it improves my logic, and makes me a more ethical person. Literature has taught me how to empathize with others, which otherwise is difficult for me due to having to study and work with numbers all day long.
There are also obvious benefits like being able to articulate yourself and overall being more apt at conversation and interesting. If you want to witness the firsthand effects of pure science and math without the counterbalance of the humanities, look around at your classmates.
The two are both necessary to create well adjusted thinkers.
Cameron Edwards
>Ironic considering it does in fact exist, how are you this stupid? well baited kind sir :-DDDD *tips*
Jack Bennett
>when your life is so pathetic you have to invent this shit just to get (you)'s on an anime forum
Brandon Martin
The tragedy of modestly intelligent people falling into the humanities trap is that during the first years of their studies, they feel like the initiates of a mystical cult. Later, they realize that their fields are basically a self-perpetuating fraud and sort themselves out. Some, however, find their way to Veeky Forums before this realization dawns upon them, and then the tragedy becomes a farce.
Bentley Allen
No amount of bookworming will fix social ineptitude. I agree, however, that reading will give you more to talk about, if you do manage to make it through a conversation without sperging.
Caleb James
>op doesn't mention goethe or pascal once to said friend
>friend is somehow right
most mathematicians were also writers of some caliber, i get the polymath meme thing etc etc but people were hardly ever just "math" minded but men of letters as well.
Christopher Scott
>their fields are basically a self-perpetuating fraud As are all fields.
>b-b-but muh scientific progress! Doesn't exist.
Nolan Collins
STEM people are brainlets who are satisfied with Overwatch tier narratives.
Parker Edwards
Well, this applies to Academia in general, if you view it like anything but a glorified trade school.
Grayson Clark
Humanities people are brainlets who are satisfied with janitor tier salaries.
Blake Hall
>laugh anyway >I only read because I can't do mathematics and real intellectual stuff
Why do you even bother? You wont amount to anything with this kind of inferiority complex. You're probably not even a very developed reader, given your views on literature. You should probably stop writing too and just kill yourself, you brain cuck.
Heres's your last chance. Look at this image, OP and tell me: what do you see? Really look at it, take it in, research it, extrapolate from it. Connect these two people whom you don't even know to the past, the future and finally to yourself. Do you still have an identity? Do they? What do you see? Tell me.
Do you still have an identity? Do they? No? Then go fuck yourself.
Jack Foster
>I need unlimited money to be happy
ok, enjoy being a shallow retard, I take having enough money to support my minimal deeds while I do something I enjoy
Ayden White
>Humanities people
no such thing
Ian Howard
>have nothing of value to contribute >resort to oligophrenic naysaying You should take a tripcode or something, your autism is showing a mile away in every thread.
Colton Green
I am not who you think I am.
Adrian Perry
>tfw too smart for literature
Juan Morgan
>it's all about money The eternal STEM brainlet rears its tiny head.
Asher Young
You're exactly the one, bucko.
Easton Rogers
Fascinating, it's back to the mud huts and faith healing for you, then. I'm sure your tribe will appreciate the idle sophistry your favourite humanities department's fraudster clique taught you. Hey, maybe you can be the shaman!
Hudson Sanders
take the Ted pill, he was more of a mathematical genius than anyone on here will ever be. civilization was a disaster for humanity.
Nathan Wood
Don't associate the STEM students who actually enjoy science and math with the normies lusting after salary. My class was full of them during freshman year and they all transferred out when they realized they'd actually have to work.
Dominic Cruz
Chink
Logan Russell
The only ones I've ever met who actually enjoy science and math, as you say, were the biggest autists I had ever met. And I don't mean that in a completely derogatory way, they were very intelligent, but only within science/math. With everything else they were as good as blind.
Hunter Wood
Kool thread kid
I see your OP image and I know that you need to go back to your containment board you sad adult sized child.
sage
Brandon Collins
Stop posting, burn your computer and move to the woods, you poseur. What are you even doing here?
Kayden Hall
Dropping Tedpills
Aaron Harris
Not an argument. Spreading the message is more important than immediately following the lifestyle.
Kevin White
>unlimited money >all about money >jumping to extremes You guys sure don't seem assmad or anything. Hope you get some sizable inheritance, so you don't have to explain your mental superiority over stemfags to your children when they ask why daddy makes less dough than a twenty something codemonkey.
Juan Russell
>wasting time on children
My magnum opus won't write itself, even if I by some miracle will have children I will make them appreciate something that means a little more than the useless hoarding of material shit that plebs think means the world.
Caleb Hall
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Brayden Ward
It's not an extreme, you are quite literally saying that just because STEM fields pays more it's better. It's typical of STEM autists. Do you berate policemen too?
Gavin Richardson
>you are quite literally saying that just because STEM fields pays more it's better There were no such value judgments from my side, friendo. It's all in your head.
Wyatt Scott
Weak minds think alike, I see.
Kayden Sullivan
>Humanities people are brainlets who are satisfied with janitor tier salaries. >Hope you get some sizable inheritance, so you don't have to explain your mental superiority over stemfags to your children when they ask why daddy makes less dough than a twenty something codemonkey. You are very stupid, the epitome of a STEM autist.
Dominic Gray
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Blake Cooper
So? Not once did I claim that STEM fields are better. Merely that humanities grads earn less. You need to improve your reading comprehension and learn to control those deep-seated insecurities, my mang.
Parker Roberts
I'm genuinely smart enough to do STEM (got As in all the math and comp sci classes I took in college) but I found it too stressful and much less interesting than literature/philosophy. Doing STEM shit just turns you into a machine, its completely dehumanizing.
Leo Flores
Mathematics and physics are for idiots. He's autistic, he isn't going to do anything. He's going to be locked up in a little lab or something all day and die of chemical burns, or get eye cancer, or some crap, a decade later. Fuck off, child. Normative nonsense; platitudes; absolute non-communication; reduction to practicality.
Carson Morris
>Mathematics and physics are for idiots. This. insecure brainlets who can't comprehend great literature or philosophy.
Anthony Thomas
>Doing STEM shit just turns you into a machine, its completely dehumanizing Maybe if you're just mindlessly carrying out calculations and memorizing trivial technical details, which unfortunately constitutes much of the engineering and computer science curriculum in schools. Science and mathematics are first-and-foremost human endeavors; their pursuit requires curiosity, creativity, intuition, understanding, and interpretation. Even if these subjects could theoretically be completely carried out by a computer, the results would be meaningless without these human attributes.
Jayden Cooper
I have no idea why you think this conclusion would hold for a majority.
>Be me. >Severe case of Dyslexia with ADHD being a cherry on top. >Learning Psychologist that did intensive testing on me at age 19 found that I had the largest vocabulary out of the hundreds of people that he had tested over the course of his career. >Says that I likely have a very high IQ but cannot know for sure due to the severity of my learning disabilities skewing results of the IQ test. >Possibility of the high IQ enforced by my hobbies, interests, lifestyle, parents and grandparents being high IQ.
I live in a perpetual state of having no idea if I'm an idiot with a lot of common sense and desire to succeed or a highly intelligent person infuriatingly handicapped by these damned LDs. Due to how my brain is programmed it's damn near impossible for me to learn another language and Math and Science baffle me; but at the same time I very quickly learn technical skills such as Drawing, Welding, Woodworking, Metalworking, Casting, and many other things. My interests in philosophy, history, literature, theater, music, and the various other arts are also hallmarks of intelligence. In addition I live a highly disciplined and regulated lifestyle by choice.
The point is I have no idea how intelligent I actually am and likely never will, but I view it as an opportunity to not place any limitations on myself. I fail at a lot of things as a result but I also succeed in areas that people in my life have never expected.
Tyler Cook
Why do you bother? It's just some autistic teenage bait.
Grayson Lopez
I'm bored.
Hunter Bennett
>Science and mathematics are first-and-foremost human endeavors; their pursuit requires curiosity, creativity, intuition, understanding, and interpretation. t. too stupid for humanities and can't understand big words
Jaxson Cox
I was a STEMfag but got drawn to literature when I got stuck in depression.
Juan Stewart
Come on, lad. Too obvious. You can do better than that.
Samuel Thomas
Intelligence isn't a number or something that can easily be measured, m8. If it was as simple as that, everyone with a HS degree and an IQ of 90+ would be smarter than Plato/Aristotle.
Christopher Young
>They aren't working towards mastering philosophy, physics, mathematics and at least one art form.