ITT: Books that make you uncomfortable, whether it's because of the subject matter...

ITT: Books that make you uncomfortable, whether it's because of the subject matter, the perspective it takes or because of simple shock value. Please share books that made you uncomfortable.

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It took me a while to get a copy of this, no bookstores seem to stock it and I initially thought it was due to the provocative title (albeit, it wouldn't have been seen as provocative at its time of publishing). I began to read it and I just felt very uncomfortable. Don't get me wrong, it's beautifully written and I don't necessarily think it's a racist book, but some of the depictions of black people would certainly cause controversy if this was published today. Good collection of short stories but should be understandable why it would make someone uncomfortable. Wouldn't read it in public/10.

I tried to sit on a copy of war and peace and it wasnt comfortable

Memes aside, it's a genuinely disturbing book. It's not just the direct violence either, but the ambiguity regarding the Judge, his origins and the devastation he especially leaves behind.

Probably Hogg but even then it has its profane artistic qualities.

the bit with the kitten in Mishima's The Sailor who Fell From Grace with the Sea

Hubert Selby Jr and William Burroughs always make me uncomfortable, their books feel so grimey and grubby. Great works but what they strive for isnt ever pretty obv.

Orwell's The Road to Wigan Pier, although it won't have the same impact on other people reading it, unless if your grandfather was a coal miner in working class England or if you grew up in a town that still suffers from Thatcher's shutting of the coal mines.

Book of Disquiet and The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock tbqh, because they hit close enough to home.

its like because i got a boner when i read it whenever so if i read it on the bus people would point out my dick because im sorry how about fuck you why dont you try reading this without gettin harder than diamond hah no didnt think it was possible huh fuckface

I know this feel.

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Malte Laurids Brigge by Rilke

How so for Prufrock?

I dislike much of holocaust fiction for the poronographic, unsubtle way it tends to represent the atrocities. Although there's a discussion to be had there

T. Super pleb

You shouldn't care if someone has negative opinions on you for reading a fucking book

The dancing bear and it's child trainer fucked me up very badly.

I meant *its

Reading it I get that feeling that I imagine religious people get when they read the Bible and it kind of defeats the purpose of reading Nietzsche

Purchasing the puppies just to drown them was fucking cold. Also the implication that the judge raped and murdered the kid in the end just haunts me.

Why, what happens? I thought mishima was chill

Althoug true in most cases, i wish anyone the best of luck reading this in a public place

>come into this thread
>expect to see mindfuck books and extreme horror books
>everyone is uncomfortable reading these relatively calm books

Are you all just ultra sensitive babies or something like what the fuck?

The Conspiracy Against The Human Race has been the only thing i've ever read that legitimately made me uncomfortable

i have lots of worse-than/d/ tier fetishes so extreme content doesn't really get to me

Different things affect different people user.

Sort of related, I had what I guess you would call a paranoid breakdown a couple years ago.
I am reading Gravity's Rainbow now, and was prepared to stop if I got uncomfortable, but I think it's actually made me feel better about some situations I was getting paranoid about.
Kinda weird.

Moldbug was better
T. Christian

The bisexual threesome in Glamorama made me uncomfortable. Combination of repressing some bicurious tendencies makes all gay shit uncomfortable for me and that he's just not a great writer, so the whole scene was just weird.
>dude, turn over and let me see that pink butthole.
^more or less an exact quote

I haven't read glamorama, but I generally like the way Ellis handles gay shit. It's just there, with no ceremony, and not in the way other things have casual gay shit in them and it's like the nonchalance is there to be praised as progress.
Just feels genuine.

>almost the year of our lord 2018
>not trying to avoid being yelled at by tumblrinas in public
>can't just wait to read
>reading Conrad

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No it's not. It's so over the top it's like that Scrotie McBoogerballs book in South Park.

Just read the first 3 chapters today.
I'm hoping it's as violent as they say, if I could slug through the border trilogy, I can get around this way more easily

>Although there's a discussion to be had there
About what?

I always thought that is funny how he tries so hard to disprove the existence of God and dedicated many years of his life writing about being an atheist

>Not letting your bi tendencies play out

It's great when you let yourself go and enjoy both in their unique way

Gass?

Reading Crime and Punishment for the first time tore me apart...

source pls before delete

I kinda wish I had, but if I did I would rip my dick off by masturbating like a madman

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whooooo the fuck is this

Kalindra Chan

Might be because Pynchon treats paranoia as something everyone does, on at least some level, at some severity or another, directed towards some pattern of meanings or other. One of my favourite lines from GR went something like: "If there's something comforting about paranoia -- religious, if you want -- then there's also anti-paranoia; where nothing seems connected to anything, a condition no one can bear for long."

One of Pynchon's main thematic allegories is that everyone practices paranoia to some degree. The scientist finds meanings and patterns in existence. So does the politician. So does the student, so does the teacher. As well as the philosopher. The artist does especially (see: Oedipa Maas). If you didn't practice at least some degree of paranoia, or pattern finding, then you'd be a total nihilist, in the meaninglessness of which, you wouldn't be able to sustain yourself. You'd scatter. Break down. Just like Slothrop did when he became figuratively scattered across the Zone.

You don't need extreme shock value to make a reader uncomfortable. In fact, when I read a book relying solely on shock value, I find it a bit juvenile.

Lolita will make you uncomfortable, either because of the empathy and rationalisation expressed regarding paedophiles - gradually convincing the reader to also be empathetic towards the protagonist - or because you got a boner while reading it.

what are these fetishes, user

haha dude i wont judge

reddit: the book

> it's so over the top

I don't think you've read the book. The violence is an accurate portrayal of the conflicts during the time period it is set, user.

The pacing of Blood Meridian trips up a lot of people, but as long as you're aware it's not just pages after pages of violence then you'll probably enjoy it.

Pretty good Holocaust novel, but I found it horribly uncomfortable to read. The entire story is told backward, so literally every description is in reverse. People gag a half-digested bolus up from their guts and then lick it into the shape of a chunk of food and put it on their plates. Then after the meal, they put the food in the oven, and then in the fridge, as raw ingredients. To drink wine, you regurgitate it into a glass and then put it back in the bottle. Letters arrive spontaneously out of the fire, and after they are read, they're sealed into an envelope and put in the mailbox for the mailman to take away.

It gets dizzying. I started having trouble adjusting to normal-time reality after reading this book for hours.

My diary desu

Shut up bitch r*ddit would probably hate it

That sounds fascinating.

Mentally ill faggot.

Reading Maus after watching Shoah let me see The Holocaust in details that weren't taught to us in school.

HE NEVER DID ANY OF THIS KILL YOURSELF

Don't forget If This Is a Man by Primo Levi

Anything by Joyce Carol Oates or Margret Atwood.
Even when Oates is being a bitchy old white woman she's creepy as all fuck.

Shoah should be mandatory viewing for history classes in schools but that film gets too real that I don't think students would manage.

Worse than /d/ tier... so.. furry?

Didn't Read It: The Post

Try harder

no, i'm mostly talking about death related stuff (snuff, erotic cannibalism, deadly erotic asphyxiation, and so on and so forth)

I've not read it, my man. How is it?

Cormac McCarthy's Outer Dark (how the woman who searches for her inbred baby is left in desperation and what happens to said baby nearly made me cry)

Arthur Miller's The Crucible (the fate of Giles Corey)

Ryu Murakami's In the Miso Soup (when the ear is cut off and shoved into a vagina made me wince)

Miles Davis pawning off his friends clothes for cash so he could have another hit of heroin in his autobiography.

Popular television series aside, The King in Yellow really is spooky, weird and cerebral.

The highly detailed description of the nose job in V. stayed with me for a while.

Mysteries of Winterthurn is pretty good though

>Miles Davis pawning off his friends clothes for cash so he could have another hit of heroin in his autobiography.
insane book. it's been awhile since I've read it, but I remember there being a part where he dropped all the "motherfucking this, motherfucking that" and just had a short reflection on all the friends and fellow musicians that were lost to drugs over the years. fucked me up especially from seeing a lot of heroin abuse firsthand.

Peter Sotos reminded me that there are still things that can make me uncomfortable even after spending years on Veeky Forums.

>Joyce Carol Oates
any recommendations in particular? always wanted to give her a look but there's too much.

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yeah just saw that. thanks

Go read it and find out. It's a pretty short book but it's very powerful. It reminds me of some of those French modernist short films where the story doesn't matter so much as it is a canvas for a few powerful and memorable moments to be painted by Mishima.

Not once did Nietzsche claim to be an atheist.

>Read Martin Amis' first book "The Rachel Papers"
>Was uncomfortable with all the boners it gave me

I'm not going to make it

Seriously, while reading it I kept thinking, "where have you been all my life," in regards to Mishima's writing style.

The most disturbing part of that novel is when he calls his first wife a "chimpanzee" as a term of affection.

Good post

>In the Miso Soup

I noticed it at the library when I was picking up something by a different Murakami. Your description intrigues me. I think I'll go check this one out.

I never read anything by Pynchon and this made me even more eager to begin, I did watch Inherent Vice though, where do I start senpaitachi?

Start with The Crying of Lot 49

It's the best intro to Pynchon

Yeah, I agree with you.

Thank you, this is a stupid question easily answered by reading Pynchon but what is it about him that makes people hold him in such high esteem? It's rare to see anyone criticize him even on Veeky Forums

user: the faggot

I gather you have never read Mishima? Regarding that the ending of The Golden Pavillion gave a mix of feeling, while feeling like the actions pertretrated by the character were a moment of literary genius, it striked me how real his train of thought (and I don't mean the actual burning of the temple in real life, but the way an obssesion with something we regard as pure can twist a man).

>There are some truly sublime passages so far
>40 pages in
>not a masterpiece
So, you're retarded?

>Arthur Miller's The Crucible
I want to read that but heard some editions make weird editing choices. Am I being fucked with or is there a certain copy I should look for?

>le holokek was real

when will this meme end

Sartres' Nausea made feel hopeless. Filled me with the kinda despair you only feel at a crossroads in your life or with some massive failure of self, like dropping out of college.

Got 'em

Maus was great; throughout elementary, high school and some uni we went into detail about the holocaust, so I thought I knew all there was to know.

A few months after reading it I got to visit Auschwitz; nothing could have prepared me for that experience. Touring the chambers, and where they sleep was crippling. But what scared me the most were the other tourist, literally people laughing, smiling, taking photos of everything, letting their kids run around to jump and swing from things. It was that day I became a hardened misanthrope.

Mindfuckery and extreme horror are moving tactics to surprise the plebiscite. True scare and disturbance is in daily and simple things.

>I thought mishima was chill
If Mishima had been born today in the United States, there's a 100% chance that he would have been a school shooter.

This isn't just unrealistic, it's fucking delusional.

"Just bee yourself" morals are fucking cancer. The people who make it in life are the ones who pay attention to how they come across to others. And following the standards of society at large limits moral degeneracy. It's a slippery slope from "I don't care what anybody thinks about me!" to "I'm a trans-black Microsoft-Word-gendered gay cucumber with six 3-inch imaginary penises and a vagina for a mouth!"

Society as a whole is degenerating and advancing these causes.

Being moral and socially conservative today is being opposed to the current society.

Let's be honest here, people are more willing to get offended by the slightest thing and will openly vocalize their displeasure. Anything with a modicum of racism/sexism/whatsayyouism will provoke mongs to last out.


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Ulysses. The cuck shit was too distracting and the ending which suggested that Molly was pregnant was too much for me

>people who make it in life
this is the point at which your comment became worthless
or maybe it happened when you used the term "fucking cancer"

>tries to call someone retarded while posting in the wrong thread
oh. oh no

Who are you even talking to