Mars Meme

>the fundamental theorem of engineering

>It's gravity is so low that humans will never be able to reproduce there. People will have to move back to Earth to have kids or there will need to be a giant rotating space station built in orbit for people to have kids on and for the kids to grow up on.

There is zero evidence for any of this, nor is there evidenve against this. We just don’t know yet. Low gravity could be very problematic or unproblematic or slightly problematic with easy remedies.

Go to bed elon, you're a psychopath.

Lrn2meme fgt pls

>not going to mercury instead
It's like free mini dyson sphere right in our solar system with confirmed water and we're aiming for dead frozen rocks on the outskirts. Retarted.

>37% is not 40%
You are so right.

>he doesn’t want a race of super tall Lanklets to populate mars

>mfw biological humans never colonize anything, just say, "fuck it", and build an impenetrable seed and DNA library on the moon in case anything cosmic goes wrong before our AI kids set out for the stars

>Are the people who support Mars colonization pop-sci redditors with no understanding of this issue?

Basically yes. Mars may be suitable for a research base but any actual space colonization will requite natural gravity. Which means rotating space stations. Preferably next to an asteroid for easy access to resources.

Why the fuck don't' we populate the moon first?
Why is NASA so hellbent on going to Mars when the moon is much closer and it will at least give us a chance to test bio-domes or whatever the hell they plan to use on Mars.

>It's gravity is so low that humans will never be able to reproduce there.
That's a retarded meme. Problems will get solved as they get encountered, either through technology or genetic engineering / evolution. And we absolutely must get to Mars, since Earth is full of niggers.

we are going Moon first, Trump administration hanged the policy

makes sense

ultimately Mars may even be ignored, because the next logical step after a moonbase is an asteroid colony

Bezos knows this

techradar.com/news/jeff-bezos-reusable-rockets-will-let-a-trillion-people-colonising-the-solar-system

because musk wants a place for him and all the other billionaires to go to when they turn the world to shit. why do you think musk is so invested in setting up base asap?

the only reason why we went to the moon was because the americans and soviets were having a dick measuring contest. the only reason why modern governments want to set up shop is so that humanity can eventually become a space faring civilization, but who the fuck wants to fund it when it wont return immediate profits?

musk, obviously. he's farsighted enough to realize that the world's being destroyed, but not farsighted enough to realize it's easier to stop the world from being destroy than it is to make a new one on another world.

>it's easier to stop the world from being destroy than it is to make a new one on another world.

It is not. Space colonies are a mere technological problem, sooner or later it will be done. Earth is being destroyed by human stupidity and politics. Good luck solving that one.

The future of humanity is in space, and not just because Earth is fucked, but also because it will be the elites of the planet colonizing space. Simply due to founder effect, the society they will spawn will be extraordinary.

You can give birth in a centrifuge or something like that so not really a problem.
Mars is a place of interest because traces of erosion where found there which leads to conclusion there was once a more dense atmosphere there. Nobody seriously plans to colonize it yet, some want a base there for thorough research.

When Sun expands into red giant it will consume Mercury, Venus and Earth. Mars will become the new mercury

>You can give birth in a centrifuge or something like that so not really a problem.

this is what low gravity fags actually believe

where is that JELLO BABIES guy when you need him

this one?

Veeky Forums is even more of a dumpster fire than /b/
I didn't know it was possible

>colony on Mars

JELLO BABIES!
JELLO BABIES!
JELLO BABIES!

>Why the fuck don't' we populate the moon first?

Because a Moon colony is basically, "No Bones Mode."

based jello babies poster

tell me jello babies man
can you engineer us a way to colonize mars and not have jello babby
there must be a way through physics to pull it off

[Citation needed]

But Elon musk said he will do it and when I told you Veeky Forums people he might be wrong last time I was called a retard. How can Elon musk be wrong about This? Didn't you know that 1/1000th atmosphere is just low air pressure? I'm sure 37% gravity is fine.

Yeah, we got cancer and we thought giving it some room to grow was a good way to deal with, now it has spread through everything, leaving only destruction. /pol was a mistake.

Of course, but you won't like the answer,

•Step 1: Smash enough comets and asteroids into Mars to give it enough mass for 1g and restart geological processes, bolster the atmosphere (carrier gas like nitrogen is needed), and build up amounts of water. Couple this with microbiological seeding (GMO cyanobacteria). Estimated amount of time needed to do this is 10,000 years.
•Step 2: Wait 10,000 years for debris to settle into proper orbits and burn up in the solar system's planets and sun before continuing any other space travel.
•Step 3: Reassess Mars' situation in regards to radiation, gravity, geological activity, and atmosphere. Estimated time, 5 years for complete results.

After the test results from Step 3, we would probably colonize. We may need to be underground or above ground due to whatever radiation is present and still be in "domes" for many generations. Amendments to the atmosphere would most likely be needed. Terraforming via macrobiological means would begin to capture CO2. From there, your standard sci-fi novel would suit well as to how things are terraformed further. It is Step 1 that most everyone skips and simply says, "lol humans are healthier due to 0.377g!!" Not many of them even address the overabundance of CO2. They just go as far as having enough oxygen and ignore the fact you'd die breathing CO2 as a carrier gas. Scrubbing that amount of CO2 from the atmosphere using biological means would take forever. Perhaps a few 100 thousand years.

>Step 1: Smash enough comets and asteroids into Mars to give it enough mass for 1g
The total mass of the asteroid belt is estimated to be 2.8×1021 to 3.2×1021 kilograms, which is just 4% of the mass of the Moon.

t. wikipedia

So according to your graphic the earth has zero co2?

Oh yeah, I forgot about the moons, thanks. They are supposed to be in that as well. It is a joke since Step 1 is impossible and the time constraints of everything is also impossible.

If we tried to do colonize now, this image shows the culture we'd have in 3 generations.

The Earth's atmosphere is 78 percent nitrogen, 21 percent oxygen and 1 percent other gases, including about 0.04 percent carbon dioxide.

O'Neil cylinders and other such constructs are where it is at.

What percentage of Mary's atmosphere is made up of oxygen then? Why does it get oxygen get a sliver for mars but co2 gets nothing for earth?

First point it blatantly false.

The axioms used to create this are baseless. It's not at all useful.

>O'Neil cylinders

disprove with science please, not shitposts

It was a Gundam reference, you ninnie.
I'm no physicist.

Exquisite post

Mice fetuses develop fine, even in zero G. The only problem they run into upon return to Earth is inner-ear balance, and even that, they learn pretty quickly.

This probably doesn't translate effectively to something as large as a human, but ~40% gravity (okay 37.7% gravity, fine), is a fuckload more than that. (Perhaps literally, depending on the mass of a fuckload.)

Problem comes in with bone development after birth (thus the old "jello babies meme" should be more "jello adolescents"), but it means they are getting ~60% (okay 63.3%, fine) less breakage to cause the normal reinforcement - and that happens to people in various circumstances in real life here on Earth, so it probably isn't going to be fatal.

Might become a problem if they want to come to Earth though, and may even make the G's caused by reaching escape velocity on Mars more dangerous. But, as far as continuing to live on Mars itself is concerned, having less bone strength on a planet with less gravity, is less of a problem, as is the reduced muscle mass.

Further, those saved calories may get devoted to other functions. There's some evidence to suggest that, under such circumstances, the brain will use more calories for itself and thus operate more efficiently. So future martians maybe incredibly smart, incredibly fragile, lanky nerds, that Earth folk can come and visit to kick around. What's not to love?

The oxygen content of the Martian atmosphere is only 0.13 percent, compared with 21 percent in Earth's atmosphere. Carbon dioxide makes up 95.3 percent of the gas in the atmosphere of Mars. It also contains nitrogen and argon and very small amounts of water and methane.

Earth has plants that capture CO2, strip the carbon from it to create their mass and release oxygen as the biproduct. Tree gets it mass from the carbon in your exhaled breath. There are no lifeforms on Mars to turn CO2 into Oxygen and lock up the carbon in structures.

It is an engineer's world now.

>t. double brainlet

>shitty anime "reference"

You don't even know how to use reaction images properly.

Wait, what? I thought Elon was in this rocket heading to Mars? Was it just a test flight? When's he gonna get there?