Proof: >assume math is a science >thus the board about science, including mathematics, would br called just "Science" >we see in red letters above that the board is called "Science and Math" which is a contradiction >this math is not a "science"
Math it is a science, but it is the queen of science so it gets a special mention. Similarly, if I ever teach a general math class I would call it "Number Theory and math" where I would teach all common techniques for algebra, geometry and inequalities but focus problem solving in number theory because number theory is the queen of math.
Owen Torres
this board is only for mathematics
Proof: >mathematics is a science >not all science is mathematics >this board is for things that fulfill the logical conjunction of 'things that are science' and 'things that are math' >therefore this board is only for math
qed and btfo soft scientists
Matthew Hernandez
you must have meant 'zfc set theory'
number theory is just about being able to divide random shit, it's not the queen of any maths other than those concerning themselves only with natural numbers
Grayson Rivera
Every advancement in algebra from mere ideals to modern elliptic curves was made in order to prove Fermat. In other words, to do number theory. Ideals were invented by a guy thinking they were the key to Fermat. In the end it did not work out but poof, magically we had modern ring theory.
The natural numbers are the best number, and decoding their secrets is the most worthwhile thing a mathematician can do. ZFC is just a foundation, it is the toiler paper we use to wipe our ass. But number theory? Number theory is the reason we are taking a shit in the first place.
Aiden Brooks
number theory is super interesting and has deep connections with algebraic geometry and complex analysis
Charles Sullivan
this is like saying space travel is the foundation of classical mechanics
i dont doubt that it does, but i question the claim that it is the foundation to mathematics
Dominic Rogers
kek wonderful
Liam Roberts
he said queen not foundation tho and it's probably the origin of most classical math anyway. algebra was invented to study Z
Alexander Butler
>this is like saying space travel is the foundation of classical mechanics No it isn't. You are retarded at making analogies. Anyways, Gauss said number theory is the queen of math and no one would be retarded enough to contradict Gauss. But still, you are a fucking pleb.
Carter Hall
>i question the claim that it is the foundation to mathematics
No one said number theory is the foundation of math you fucking retard.
Colton Jenkins
That's stupid. It's like refering to numbers as "Integers and Reals". The more adequate way, implying that math is a science, would be "math and other sciences"
Jace Lee
i misinterpreted, my mistake- although my point still stands of its own accord
Daniel Bell
>It's like refering to numbers as "Integers and Reals Nothing wrong with that. Integers are more important than the average real numbers. "Integers and Reals" sounds like an analytic number theory course where you use R-properties to prove Z-properties.
Cooper Perez
those "numbers" are still just abstract objects subject to a few operations whose codified behaviors correspond neatly to those naturally experienced in physical life
you can do mathematics on any sorts of such objects as long as the operations are well-formed and meaningful
Jeremiah Allen
Kek, your philosophy of math is 100% sterilized. I feel bad for you. I'm an agnostic but I am a "God made the integers, all the rest is the work of man" kind of guy. The integers are literally god given, the one gift this universe gave us and only us.
If you don't think there is something fantastical, almost mysthical, happening in Z then why are you even studying math?
Wyatt Fisher
no i get it that is pretty fun to pretend like youre gandalf casting division spells and summoning the ancient powers of induction but you'll have to hang up that wizard hat when you start looking for structure in other, unprescribed areas
besides- counting things and being and unbeing works the same in all universes, god-given or otherwise, and that's imo far more profound than rank mysticism
Evan Davis
uauaueeua Thank you for that link mate. You're amazing. I hope you love yourself
Alexander White
While mathematics can be very useful, it's not a science. Science requires observation of the physical world, whereas mathematics operates outside this boundary, but can still be applied to observational reality.
Science merges the subjective experience of physical reality, with the objective nature of mathematics. The problem with a lot of science now is that it's become purely mathematical, because the theories it describes are not observable by us. It's essentially metaphysics at this point, something science was supposed to move away from.
This is why I don't believe theories like atoms, or gravity are correct, because they are not directly observable, the scientific method cannot be applied to them. They require faith, much like religion.
Joseph Peterson
Am I really a certified sweetie?
Colton Martin
Proof >I don't like you and you are gay >therefore math is not a science
Carson Perry
>threading your own post i bet you tried to suck your own dick at least once
Ayden Myers
Maths doesn't use science, sciences use maths. Non-mathfags btfo
Charles Hernandez
whoa...so this is the power of deductive reasoning...
Connor Gonzalez
but classical mechanics was literally created for space travel (of planets)... Newton specifically created his laws to explain planetary motion
Jonathan Miller
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_science Fail 1: referring to Wikipedia as the one stop place for "knowledge". Fail 2: not noticing that the entire introductory part is finished off with a [citation needed]. Fail 3: not noticing there are two more instances of [citation needed]. Fail 4: not noticing that the Talk page raises serious question that as a bonus fail, have not been addressed since they were raised in 2008. That is now close to 10 years ago.
And on top of that you /thread yourself!?
Connor Garcia
>referring to Wikipedia as the one stop place for "knowledge".
wow you're good at putting words into other people's mouths
Thomas Ramirez
>issues with Wikipedia article >therefore subject matter doesn't exist
Jayden Brooks
You're lying if you haven't
Jose Fisher
>referring to Wikipedia as the one stop place for "knowledge".
Uh... where was that stated? Can you point me to it?