Fucking socrates talked about being good regardless of the consequences and living a virtuos ascetic lifestyle filled with piety in the form of wisdom and you're telling me he was a christian?
Why do people claim to be atheists in the West? They were all raised on Christian moral value systems and abide by them...
Zachary Hughes
Jason Bell
>Why do atheists believe that moral values are rationally determined, rather than entirely environmental?
Why do you believe that atheists believe that?
Evan Campbell
>Clarify, you either just woke up
I did, kek. Oh well. My point was that certain key words hinder thought these days since we have been programmed to associate horrid things with what used to be central, neutral or positive in our societies. Nationalism will instantly bring Hitler and the nazis and the holocaust to mind. Certainly, this program has had some inflation. Same thing is happening with Christianity. Religion and Christianity have the same association.
Do not assume that you are objective, here. Just see the reaction to socialism, bolshevism, nationalism. Then rank them based on how 'spicy' they are. Then rank the facts.
Would we even remember Socrates if it wasn't for Christians? I mean, we have very little knowledge of the bronze age civilizations, aside from Egypt. If it wasn't for Byzantium and Vatican we would not know much about Rome and Greeks.
Of course, Christianity has included in it the notion that morality is a human quality. The problem is that you aren't replacing Christianity with anything.
Bentley Bell
>Why do people claim to be atheists in the West?
Either daddy issues or mere lack of intelligence.
Luke Long
>Would we even remember Socrates if it wasn't for Christians?
I don't know, but it's not relevant.
Noah Baker
>I don't know, but it's not relevant.
There need to be role models that went against sophistry. Christianity elevated all such figures.
Without protestants, you wouldn't even be able to read.
Isaiah Young
Full butterfly effect, without LaVeyan Satanism you would never have been born. Does that make you a Satanist? No, because that's straight up retarded.
Chase Carter
Yeah maybe these claims had something to do with his theism, hmmmmm?
Josiah Watson
Because God is not real.
Isaac Lopez
>2017
>believing in God
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