How do we stop the obesity epidemic?

Starting making people "pull their weight."

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That's stupid nigger, carbs don't make you fat.
It's CICO. lrn2thermodynamics

Obese tax would be good, but more surcharges in everything not just from the government like they do when a fatass has to buy two plane tickets.

user, if people didn't eat any carbs, obesity would be down massively. This isnt a theory its a fact.
That truth alone makes the carb tax valid.
Who would get gutted by this? McDonalds, Soda, flour, and sugar.

The people like body builders who eat massive amounts of carbs, but also use all of them preserving their body. CICO stands for carbon in, carbon out. Reducing the CI punishes everyone, including the large majority who do nothing wrong. Punishing weight and implementing mandatory weight loss education will reduce intake and increase output.

You can also take fat sedentary individuals, have them eat nothing but sugar and other refined carbohydrates ad lib, and see substantial weight loss. E.g. Kempner's "rice diet"

Obesity isn't as simple as carbs

explain how obesity is at its lowest in asia when they eat shit tonnes of rice then you dipshit

I dont know but all I'm saying is everyone I know that has ever travelled to burgerland, describe their experiences with American supermarkets as if describing a fascinating tourist attraction.

it isn't as simple as CICO. your body does not metabolize 2000 calories of refined sugar the same as it does 2000 calories of vegetables.

refined, processed foods are the problem. people get addicted to sugar, and you end up with a nation of lardasses. as for carbs, there are good carbs and bad carbs. polished white rice vs wild brown rice. 100% whole wheat flour bread vs. wonderbread. but really, refined sugar is the main problem.
youtube.com/watch?v=f_4Q9Iv7_Ao

some people have more self control than others. obesity is probably the most socially acceptable form of addiction besides cigarettes or booze, except society as a whole doesn't treat it like an addiction yet. in any case, education and fitness initiatives in primary and secondary schools have proven to curb the growth of obesity rates in younger demographics.

get rid of net neutrality, redditors and /b/ have to go outside. boom, gone.

>people get addicted to sugar
>but really, refined sugar is the main problem
...and your evidence for this assertion is a youtube video regurgitating a quack's fad diet book?

Anyone in this thread who blames "muh carbs" is a fucking brainlet.

>it isn't as simple as CICO
It literally is that simple.
If you eat a surplus of calories, you will gain weight (barring intestinal parasites maybe).
If you eat a deficit of calories, you will lose weight.
Everything else is just a bunch of excuse making bullshit.
Tell me where the morbidly obese kid in Sub-Saharan Africa is who weighs 500 lb despite only having 1000 calories per day available to eat.
Absolute bullshit.

kill

Give everyone satiety hormones

We don't. Its the result of a successful and prosperous society. Natural selection will solve it eventually.

I can't speak for the USA but in France (cuck country), obesity is considered as a disease and you get free health care for that. This bullshit need to end because people don't care if they have a bad diet, they know that they can have free health care anytime. We shouldn't help people with bad lifetime, i don't want to pay taxes for smokers and obese people.

Plus, it's a bit of a science experiment with so many fat people to study. Maybe humanity will find out being fat is a curse from god, and if youre fat youre a shitty person?

I have the right to eat whatever I want

Japan has regulations on waist size related to height. Too low or too high and you need to pay fines and attend to nutrition courses

Destroy the healthcare industry and let natural selection do its job.

I second. That's what Japan does and they don't have any obese people other than sumo wrestlers. And even those workout regularly, so they actually have big muscles over bones.

So is income tax, but no one complains about that.

Shaming and bullying people for being fat should become a thing again.

Weebs

No, keep health care. But stop subsidizing health insurance. Then we might see some change. As well as cheaper medical bills.

Taxation is theft

Make being fat illegal

Tax obese people more. They are more likely to utilize public health care systems anyway.

Obese people are mere symptoms. We'd need to change the root causes of obesity.

>Tax added sugar
>Tax refined wheat
>Tax any food and drink ads if the brand sells anything until unhealthy
>Subsidise fresh foods, especially in low income areas
>Support community gardening
>Design for walking over driving
>Tax parents, schools, and doctors of obese children

That's a naive viewpoint. Believe it or not some people willingly stuff themselves with unhealthy shit regardless of healthier alternatives being available, and would continue to do so in spite of a price increase.

I didn't say tax the buyer only. Tax the producers as well.

So worst case scenario you now have a lot of extra tax money coming in, sounds good either way.

Producers will raise their prices and the consumers will pay in the end.

>Destroy the healthcare industry
Enjoy your polio and smallpox

Hunger games for fat people.

Enjoy your 3rd world an-cap society like Liberia

How the fuck you gonna live without carbs

By encouraging children to engage with the super organism when they are young so they are less likely to have sky high C-reactive protein and IL6 levels in middle age - associated with low grade chronic inflammation and comorbidities of non-communicable disease like cancer, heart disease, diabetes, autoimmune disorders, dementia

All this is liked to not going outside and having a memory, immune and physiological effect from running around a lot and eating wild fruit etc.

Then government needs to give out more subsidies

The right answer

Bring back bullying.

MASS GENOCIDE
get it

How do we stop anorexia?

stop doing welfare. They'll all die of the ol' beetus.

>Carb tax.
start by stopping socialist animal agriculture subsidies which make cheeseburger/milkshake combo $1 at McDonalds and salad $5 you stupid nigger

Crack down on the fast food industry. They're billion dollar corps, and they buy the best marketing strategies to prey on people's minds.

Cut off all medical aid to obese people

I don't care if they're obese as long as they're not leeching off public healthcare

that's barely even a problem now

If you're calling for a tax on carbs or sugar, you're an idiot because these things are only cheap due to government price fixing and subsidies. Corn and Soy are animal feed, always have been. Stop pushing hog feed into people food if you want people to stop looking like hogs. They only add corn and soy to everything because it's artifically the cheapest option.

Stop taxing and regulating and let these farmers fail and die.

Nobody gets obese eating canned soybeans and steamed corn on the cob you dumbfuck. Lay off the paleo blogs.

That's a pointlessly edgy proposal that no one will ever implement.
Realistically the best you can hope for is financial penalties, no one's ever going to greenlight leaving people out on the street in front of a hospital to die.

>They only add corn and soy to everything because it's artifically the cheapest option.
This actually brings up an interesting point. Meat & dairy are made artificially cheap but most of why isn't direct subsidies (which I always thought) but indirectly through feed grain subsidies. If all subsidies were removed, the prices of grains would increase, but the prices of meat & dairy would increase even more. In addition to the feed grains being subsidized, animal farmers also get subsidized directly by the government to produce meat & dairy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_subsidy

>If all subsidies were removed, the prices of grains would increase, but the prices of meat & dairy would increase even more
Also forgot to add that relatively fruit and veggies would seem cheaper as grains and meat go up in cost...and as well as the fact that most of those subsidized grains go to animals, and most of the ones which go to humans are used to make high fructose corn syrup, refined grains, etc.

Junk food would raise in price closer to healthy food.

We should have public health care in America but make it so all fats, smokers, ect have to pay an extra tax.

So basically just tax all the poor people?

Oh no
He's retarded

Unhealthy food doesn't cause people to be fat. Not taking care of your body does.

I'm poor and I am not fat because I don't have the money to buy the amount of food required to be obese.

try welfare combined with mcdonalds

Yeah but that is still their fault. Poor people tend to have low will power and being fat requires low willpower. Japan taxes the fat and it seems to be working.

What's your point? We can't fix personal choices. We can only make them harder or easier.

>Tax fat people
>Use taxes to help the rest of the countries health
Fat people can exist as long as they aren't a drain on society.

this right here. you fags don't know that eating legit healthy is expensive as fuck. fresh fruits and veg are actually expensive as fuck compared to bulk carbs and processed food.

You are so wrong it's funny. It's been proven you can eat healthy for cheap. You can buy Frozen veggies and fruit for very cheap.

>fresh fruits and veg are actually expensive as fuck
t. lazy, deluded obese loser

>goes to the store
>buys the most expensive fruit out of season
>hurrr this is more expensive than mcdonalds wtf

KILL

Same as this guy, but just outright ban some crap, also we shouldn't cut down homework thaat much.

He's definitely right if he's talking about buying all organic top quality shit from whole foods. That can add up. But from what I've seen I don't believe that organic shit really matters. Meat is going to have literally 10x more pesticides and toxic shit in it than any plant food since it bio-accumulates up the food chain. Eating the fruits and veg at all is what matters and most don't even meet their daily requirement.

It does piss me off though every time I go buy soy milk and I see the dairy milk right next to it at half the price with 300mill+ thrown at it in govt subsidies. And the fact that it's even possible for multiple burgers to be cheaper than a salad at McDonalds.

that's what you get if you buy a luxury product like soy milk

Cow's milk is even more of a luxury product, it's
just subsidized by our tax dollars brainlet. It would be more expensive otherwise.

>cow milk would be more expensive but it's not
so it's not a luxury product. in your crazy made up world maybe it is, but not here

...

This comment actually pissed me off enough to order one of these:

amazon.com/SoyaJoy-G4-Maker-Stainless-Inside/dp/B00ALM5ZFM

Well done. From what I'm reading it costs about 1/5 of the price to make soymilk yourself from soy beans.

well I'm gonna go buy a cow

>$139.99
looks pretty, you could say it even looks
l u x u r i o u s

The soyboy transformation is complete.

You know what else is gonna be luxurious? The amount of money you're gonna have to shell out to pay for your prostate cancer treatments at 50 after years of drinking dairy.

are you threatening to give user prostate cancer if he doesn't stop drinking dairy?

confirmed super luxurious:
youtube.com/watch?v=9ZyeReRF1oI
you can do it with a regular blender lmao

By educating people into having scheduled meals in family, with carefully adjusted quantities. Not "at will pizza+soda intake" anytime when "I feel it".

Here is the awful truth: we are hardwired to become obeses. It is an evolutionary survival mechanism; indeed in the wild jungle the date of your next meal is always random, you have to catch your food, to hunt. For thousands of generations, living beings had to be able sometimes to survive without eating for extended periods of times. As a result, the following spontaneous behavior appeared:
1°) an animal is likely to take food whenever he can, by instinct.
2°) he will save as much nutriments as he can.

For instance: If you have pets you have noticed they are always hungry and become fat if you don't care.

oh fuck that's dope. guess ill start doing that instead. probably better because it doesn't have any preservatives too

maybe it has more to do sedentariness?

Sedentarity alone doesn't make you go above 300 pounds.
Obesity pandemics started when people had a fucking fridge and tons of uber fat food available 24/7.

I always find it so shocking when I take a drive into the small rural towns outside of my college campus and realize just how fat the average American is

Its too slow and inefficient

do what japan did and ban fat people
simple and elegant

The trouble with removing such subsidies is that in today's world it leaves your entire agriculture sector wide open to being undercut by foreign producers. If Mcdonalds had to pay more for American corn, for example, then they would just switch to buying corn from India or china instead. you can impose tariffs on imported food to bring their prices into line with yours but then you're risking a trade war or some other political nastiness, which could be a real killer in such a globalised world.

You don't.
Obesity isn't an issue that can be solved by intelligence.
I am a climate scientist with 2 PHDs, advanced understanding of Paleoclimate and I have an IQ of 148. My understanding of the earth system is beyond incredible and I would shame even the likes of James Hansen and Gavin Schmidt with my knowledge and understanding.

Despite this I am 480lbs. My weight makes it impossible for me to contribute to the field because I am too busy eating and thinking about food to write papers. If I didn't have this food addiction I would have easily solved the most difficult climate questions. We'd have models capable of projecting with 100% accuracy the temperature in 2100 (the number is 3.6 degrees warmer than pre industrial by the way) and we'd have exact, very specific ways to measure future sea level rise.

But all I do is eat. Last night stayed up and wrote a 200 page thesis on the changes in rainforest cover during the late Carboniferous period. It was revolutionary and told us everything we need to know about that topic.

But I got hungry for tropical snacks during it and ended up eating 10 chocolate bars with pictures of parrots on the wrapper and smeared chocolate all over the paper. I also spilled sugary pomegranate juice all over the abstract. Nature will never accept that so I had to throw it away. My intelligence is wasted because of my food addiction. I have often pondered and come close to answering the questions about how cirrus clouds will respond to warming in the subtropics that nobody has yet solved, only to lose my train of thought because I am waiting in line at McDonalds and get asked my order.

Intelligent people can be obese. I am proof of this.

good post

Nice pasta
>now you have to buy spaghettos