Al/ck - Alcoholism General

Cheers lad, same to you when the time comes
Nah, used to live with a couple of other guys as none of us could afford our own place at the time.

Get to work Luke. I need you to pay your share of bills.

I wish I could be a social drinker but that would mean having a social life

You obviously already see the pitfalls ahead, now all you need to do is not do it.

Only 24 more days left of sobriety. I'm stocking a minibar on October 1 to ease back into drinking.

I bet they knew.

Remember it will go to shit quite fast user

Enjoy

Probably, but now I don't need to worry about it

I am going to die soon.
And I welcome it.

I have been drinking every day since August of 2015. It started with a few tall boys a night. Now I have to drink hard liquor to feel anything. I drink about a fifth a day.

This binging behavior was interrupted briefly in January of this year by an affection for DXM instead. I would do ~1000 mg of DXM every day for about a month, and that seemed to brim sobriety out of me. I stayed sober after that until around June, when my old habits returned.

Currently drinking a $20.00 bottle of riesling at 1:00 p.m.

I'm at the point now where if I don't drink, I have violent diarrhea, shakes, light headedness, and confusion.

I want this madness to stop, but I desperately do not want to go to rehab because 1) I do not believe in a higher power, therefor the 12-step program is ineffective for me and 2) I do not believe the current mental health system of locking up AA/NA and mentally unwell together is an appropriate setting for recovery.

It is a very terrible feeling to wake up the next day and not remember the previous night's activities. Usually I text my significant other and ask if they are mad at me for anything I have done, and because he is a sweet soul, he tells me he is not. He is really too good for me.

If you want to get your shit together then you should taper with beer. That is what I do when I want a tolerance break anyway. I usually drink about a 70cl a night so first night I drink 14 beers, then 13, then 12, then 11 etc etc. Quite often I actually end up drinking less than that because beer makes you full quickly but keeps withdrawal at bay.

The problem with beer is that the quantity of which I am drinking is much more evident than that of liquor. I have tried to do this, but my significant other has made comments about the fact that I bought a 12 pack that morning and it is gone by night fall. With bottles of liquor, there is less garbage, less space taken in the fridge/freezer, and therefore less evidence of the day's activities.

Yeah that is fair, I live on my own so that isn't an issue. Quite eye opening seeing the same quantity of alcohol in beer that you are used to drinking in spirits.

Do you mix your drinks? Could try pouring weaker measures of spirit and doing it that way?

I don't mix my drinks. I just take shots. Or double shots. Or whatever I'm feeling at the moment.

I think the only way to curb this issue is simply to go back to DXM. I did DXM last week for a day, and that quelled my urge to drink for a few days, within reason. The problem with DXM is that the dosage I take can kill me, and has killed a friend of mine.

set limits for yourself (eg: drink only during certain occasions or certain days a week, and drink x amount of drinks at one time).
Also, write down every drink you will have right before you drink it. You could do it on your phone or something and be inconspicuous. Picking up this habit generally lessens the amount you drink because it makes you think about each drink.

Basically, you have to change your attitude from feeling like having a drink is the same thing as saying 'fuck it'
And hopefully get to a place where you aren't saying 'fuck it' and destroying yourself/others/etc.

try moderation, there are programs for ppl who hate the idea of AA etc. Basically just works on getting to a place where you are comfortable or abstaining, but it isn't based on a higher power.

>General

What's up?

AA isn't rehab per se, and it's far from the only support group. I heard SMART recovery helps.
Do you actually want to stop, or are you just making excuses to continue?
Tell your SO you have a drinking problem, and need support to stop.

The plan is to taper to avoid withdrawals. It's easier with beer than liquor, but you could do it with any alcohol and enough will.
Or switch to benzo and taper them (see a doctor). Don't get addicted to them, they're a bitch to quit.
Once you're dry, you don't *need* AA to stay dry, but it can help not to be on your own.
You'll relapse eventually. You'll have to stop again, the sooner the better : less withdrawals.

Got through the floor shakes with benzos
Managed 3ish days away
Decided to go change up my big pot of change I collect that I forgot about into cash
Hello darkness my not so old friend

3L
7.5%
£4
Are they trying to kill me

You could try to get 5 days' worth of benzos, do a short taper with spirits (just drink a little less each day for maybe 5-7 days), then jump on the benzos to ease yourself through whatever WD is left. If you can get benzos that is.

Then why hide it to begin with?

Really makes you think

To be sure, you don't start taking the benzos until you are not drinking ANY alc. They are to ease the post alc WD symptoms. Seems pretty doable in theory, especially with a short taper.

And don't do the benzos for 2-3 weeks--then you'll be hooked on those XD

I hide it too
Because of shame and guilt

- Withdraw once and it's over
- Forget 12-step bullshit
- Staring other alcoholics in the face is a good wake-up call.

Then it's just unconditional self-torture isn't it.

Pretty much
It's very isolating. I've been like this for years though. I had bulimia for many years and I would hide zip lock bags of sick in a bin liner in a spare rucksack until I had an opportunity to go dump it in public bins
This isolating behaviour has been a part of me since I was a teenager

Shame, guilt, didn't want to talk about it, didn't want to answer questions, didn't want to be judged, just wanted to ve left alone really.

Drank an entire box of wine with my girlfriend ended up with her fucking me with a strap on with me in her clothes with me begging. I wish it was a joke but I ended up shitting on the dildo I've never felt so bad in my life. Or so I thought till next morning both of our bank accounts were empty I fucking hate this shit

Couple of degenerates right there. Really getting sick of hearing about shit that isn't heteronormative.
But don't worry I wish you and yours the best, I don't have a problem with you.

>he doesn't drink the while box solo
Wow
I think we've hit a new level of degeneracy for al/ck
I don't know where we can go from here

Where did all the money go?

I think running your daughter over while attempting to drunk drive takes the cake

Christ that was a shit show and a half last night

I am this guy.
AMA, I'm finally ready to talk and let it all out

>First time ever I come to Veeky Forums
>This thread is first thread

Well that's not quite what I was expecting

i fucking died laughing, i hope this is a joke

cheers buddy

How did you deal with the aftermath of all that, and how are you not in jail?

Obviously beyond terrible, but must be hard seeing as it would normally have "just" been drink driving and circumstances played out that way

wasn't that just a troll referencing breaking bad?

>How did you deal with the aftermath of all that, and how are you not in jail?
The aftermath was horrible, I was looked down on as a villain by everybody, my friends, my parents, my priest, my grandmother. My wife left me and took our 3 kids, my whole world shattered. I just drank more re to numb the memories, I barely remember my daughter now.

I am not in jail because they never suspected me of being drunk, it's a small town police Dept and they never tested me.
My wife and all my close relatives knew the truth though.

Sorry drunk me responded to the wrong pist

How did her pussy taste?

Like tire

>wake up
>still not dead

So running over your kid sober is legally okay?

Not trying to be a cunt, just never thought about this sort of stuff.

Suppose it might have been ruled as a freak accident, if she was really young these things sadly happen sometimes as kids wander off and you wouldn't have seen her if she was small. Horrible, but it must happen.

Only two beers.
I did well.

Well you need to un-isolate yourself my nigga

>So running over your kid sober is legally okay?
Yes. It was an accident. She was playing behind the Truck

Sooo, I assume it's not a new thing for you two, since she has a strap-on...
Also story of what you can remember. I need a good laugh.

You've been in a constant bender since then, or have you tried to stop?

What happened to the fucking money?

>You've been in a constant bender since then, or have you tried to stop?
Yes, have only had one sober day since, and that was because I got lost at the state Fair and fell asleep backstage at a weird Al concert.

Terrible advice here but if you can afford it have you thought about using beer as a chaser.

Having a warm drink like tea before your first real drink, slows down how fast you initially drink.
It's not how much you drink, it's how fast you drink it what gets you drunk

Myself I'm trying to get back into fitness in between binges.

If you can drink at a later time 6-7pm, it might help.
Could you drink beer you feel normal before you hit the spirits at 1pm.

Even try drinking in a different room will feel different and usually you feel the effect more.

Nothing quite beats frosty jack.

Amateur.

Ahhhb Yeh forgot about the drunk drivers
I'm a bicyclefag

You are very right
I do need to. But it's proving to be quite the challenge

I've almost finished it moyte. I don't get it, it tastes so wrong as as a cider but it is so easy to drink
Gotta go get some cheap beer or something

Isn't frosty jacks made from onions and sugar as it's cheaper than apples? Never been brace enough to try it, although it is stupidly cheap to be fair

I've been warned by health care providers that if I try to quit drinking on my own, the likelihood of seizures and death is incredibly high, because of both the quanitity I am used to drinking and the longevity of drinking it. The only safe way for me to detox is in a hospital. I currently moved to Ohio, but have Kentucky Medicaid right now (since I'm in the transition of things and also a NEET), so detoxing is purely out of the question.

Tbh mate I have no idea
I love onions. I eat them like apples so I don't mind
Try it mate
I'm near rock bottom
It's the rock bottoms choice of cider

It is really sweet for a cider, an acquired taste but a familiar one.

I drink it for the alcohol senpai

This is right. I have an alcoholic roommate that is so pathetic and miserable. From the outside looking in I see how I was. That giant monkey on his back is so sad.

That's why we're telling you to taper.
Cold turkey could kill you, brain damage you, and/or kindle you. You have to taper alcohol or benzo (that's what they do in inpatient rehab.) It's safer under medical supervision, but less comfortable than at home.

How many of you look like 5, 4, or 3?

3., why?

>top left 5
Nige?

because OP's pic

I have access to benzos, but only in KY from a long-term alchoholic war vet (friend's dad). I don't have access to benzos otherwise.

I GUESS I could try tapering, but honestly, where does tapering go when you're already drunk? Out the fucking window is where, where the inhibition goes.

On another note, I walked to pick up all the ingredients for chicken and dumplings, because I have pneumonia (an alcholic's worst nightmare), it's getting cold, and it seems appropriate for tonight.

ayy

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>fell asleep backstage at a weird Al concert
HahahhahahahahA

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It all makes sense now.

>i love germany and its traditions!
>BRING IN MORE MUDSSSSSSS

delete this

Oh. yeah but I do have a pronounced philtrum (I was just confused because of my beard) and the other facial features don't suggest it (as well as knowing my mother)

>General cognitive deficits
yup and the MSM still tell us 'omg she is so unexcited'

he seems like your average joe because he drinks pints at the pub like i do..... i will vote for him.

So her doctorate in physical chemistry was a jewish conspiracy?

no. she did a phd in eastern germany. that is no real phd. the party decided who can become postgrad and where and in what.
she was described as an 'unspired' phd student.

*uninspired

nige on that double cup

Getting crazy again tonight boyos

das wassup

pretty sure white ace is like £3.50 and 7.5%

well at least its not going to last forever user

not matter what happens there's an end and that makes me feel ok...ish

35 mins until shop closes, can't stop shitting and have got a migraine coming on. Send help

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