Hiroshimoot said we could have a thread disucssing the board, so here's that
Why can't the mods delete the fucking philosophy threads that cover over half of Veeky Forums? Move them to Veeky Forums. This is retarded.
Then there's shit like the "whats your college" thread. Why is that still here?
Do we even have mods on this board?
Are you on your period or something?
Do u really want us to end up like /a/
No, I;m just tired of looking for a thread about books. I shouldn't have to look for a thread that involves literature. Instead, I find Sam Harris cock suckers and thinly veiled /pol/ posts.
yes.
Keep the philosophy threads.
Make Veeky Forums Literature and Humanities and demote Veeky Forums to just History.
They don't want to discuss Humanities anyway and get mad when people make a thread about them, plus we would rather discuss philosophy here.
There are never any fucking threads here about books anyway. Every single thread is
>SHOULD I READ THIS
or
>WHAT DOES Veeky Forums THINK OF THIS
It's a fake board. Learn to enjoy it or go fuck off.
I don't really mind philosophy discussion, in fact I generally welcome it, but I do agree that something needs to be done about it. Over half the threads are philosophy lately, and that wouldn't be so bad if 90% of their content was not political or purely ideological rather than the literary qualities of the works in question. I rarely see good threads on fiction anymore, and it's a little sad.
Hmm, I wonder who is behind this post. . .
Oh yeah, the fucker posting Sam Harris threads. You fuck off.
The board was great 3 years ago, now there's a bunch of high schoolers like you who think "it's okay maaaan, just accept the board for what it is, maaaaan"
Is this board that important to you? You're pathetic.
lol m8 were you not here when the philosophy posters showed they were the only ones who read literary shit? who let this newb make a thread? newbmoot can't be that polite even if he's a jap
we don't have mods because we don't have report fags. it's why your shit isn't deleted either. if you need a nanny to function in the library, allow me to SHHHHH you in her absence RIP butters
>waaaaah people read different books to me
>one guy even made a thread about college on a literature board of all places
>AND I CAN'T EVEN MAKE A THREAD ABOUT A BOOK INSTEAD OF ABOUT BOARD CULTURE
legitimately kill yourself OP. you're never going to read enough to get good even if you had the desire to get good which you clearly don't. get dead instead, it's best for everyone.
let me guess, you're the exception to the board.
fuck you, everything you've written, and your ambitions. You'll never be anything
Philosophy posters read wikipedia articles, not books.
>he thinks he's some sort of alpha male of Veeky Forums
jesus dude this made me cringe
I'm def making you maaaad, which is far beyond my ambitions.
>he thinks the autists who go full greek autist learnt it off wikipedia
so you read neither books nor wikipedia? that's low
>he thinks the alpha of Veeky Forums ever winds up male
those femdom threads must be more confusing than books or wikipedia for you. it's okay honey, sometimes when laurie penny really loves you and tweets your shit like an antiphilosophy poster, the muse just takes you, so long as she finds you a worthy vessel. silence is purifying heracles. keep that in mind
I love philosophy posting but I actually agree, something should be done. Either make the humanities an official part of Veeky Forums or do some sort of reorganization. It just makes no sense that we post philosophy all the time, but should make it explicitly about a certain book or maybe author to fit the board.
Us going to Veeky Forums is not a good idea, it is pretty obvious that lit + phil is a better combination than current his + phil. However, it might work if it was a conscious effort to purge this board of half of our posting: that is, it'd need Very strict moderation, but I'm sure Veeky Forums wouldn't like the sudden change either.
I hate the idea, but we could also try to force philosophy discussion into a "philosophy general" thread. Not advocating this.
>I hate the idea, but we could also try to force philosophy discussion into a "philosophy general" thread. Not advocating this.
No.
Why can't we post tits and ass?
I remember moot stating that blue boards basically meant no muff.
wtf. If you're dumb enough to lurk here at work you deserve to get fired.
Also, captcha's getting too hard. I can't shitpost here when I'm drunk anymore. It's too hard.
> It just makes no sense that we post philosophy all the time, but should make it explicitly about a certain book or maybe author to fit the board.
While the rule isn't very strictly followed, it might still be the reason that our philosophy discussions are relatively decent (comparing to some other places online). It affects board culture, probably.
I mean, if we could just openly and consistently make threads about philosophical questions without explicit reference to philosophical works, it would be horrible, wouldn't it - we'd have all kinds of stupid threads about vague questions where anyone could post any sort of opinion without even pretending to have read about it. And pretension is actually better than accepting that.
Please CHRIST make a philosophy general. They need containment.
>It just makes no sense that we post philosophy all the time, but should make it explicitly about a certain book or maybe author to fit the board.
I don't really have a problem with this. Like if you're talking about orcs, everyone who's slightly literate in that genre is going to assume you're reading Tolkien or 40k, if you're talking about ontic Being, pretty much everyone literate in those sets of books knows you're reading Heidegger or one of his offshoots.
Veeky Forums is just a junk board. It wasn't created from a base of users, but because users thought telling other people pls go some books are not books was going to make people who read books they don't like were going to leave. Like, the /scifi/ people seem nice and on topic, and -contained-, enough if we tried to bully them with that logic into fucking off to Veeky Forums or some shit, they might go, and go as a cohesive group. Telling that shit to people who can write both a treatise on logic and read Tractatus is just going to get them to say HOW CAN YOU BE CERTAIN THIS BOOK IS LESS BOOK THAN THAT BOOK HUH PLATO? WHERE'S BOOKNESS?
This is basically butthurt bitches who wish certain books weren't books because for whatever fucking reason, it pisses them off other people read different books. So they thought making another board, which doesn't even cater to that group and which they never wanted nor desired or even got to shape, would be a place they'd totally go to.
The real solution to that is these butthurt bitches who think some books are books, petition for a board they can move to, not trying to move the people who have been here longer, read more books outside of their preferred genre, and, again, who write treatises against shit at a degree level. If these bitches really needed a safe space from philosophy - which I don't know how you'd even do with literature, since it's pretty intertwined - why are they not asking for a /fic/ board?
Because they don't actually want a /fic/ board, they just want other people to not read more or different shit to them. Fucking normie scum.
>- we'd have all kinds of stupid threads about vague questions where anyone could post any sort of opinion without even pretending to have read about it.
Thats half this fucking board, user.
No, it isn't. Maybe in practice it often ends up like that, but most threads still begin with more precise references to books or authors or explicitly defined concepts that come from books/authors. In general, Veeky Forums more or less references literature when talking philosophy.
They don't begin with stupid ethical dilemmas or I don't know, straight-up politics or matrix references or things that some teenager thought up and thought were deep.
he might be referring to the insane amount of general, not phil, threads we have which are asking for recs vaguely without ever looking at the fucking sticky which says don't do that shit. posts about literature might be more vague stupid questions threads than a standard phil thread which is usually a meme thread.
we need Phil general
philposters are the cancer that's killing the board because they provide the entry point for pol and r9k tier shower thoughts
contain philposters
There should be generals for everything apart from literature.
If genreposters are contained, please contain philposters.
100% with this guy.
i think they handle those threads better than when pol or r9k trolls with rodgers or rand or any of the other shill threads you'd have to deal with.
i more often see someone trying to troll with a philosophy thread and not realizing how fucking many weird ways that can go if someone sees the troll and decides to feed it crazy than i see with what those fiction threads do, which is often the same boring troll feed and half reddit thinking we accepted them.
so are you planning on giving /phil/ weekend custody of wittgenstein's mistress or does /dfwgen/ get to keep that?
/phil/ could keep it.
Nobody here is fit to discuss philosophy anyways. I'm all for a phil general.
what other novels can /phil/ keep?
DOES PHIL GET ALICE IN WONDERLAND BECAUSE I AM OUT OF HERE IF THEY DO??! esp if lit keeps Rand lol
I actually read the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, not wikipedia.
I agree strongly with the idea of /phil/ but the only trouble is that then 90% of the Veeky Forums posters that actually read books will be confined to two generals.
I don't understand this desire to seperate philosophy from the rest of the board
Literature is the most important form of philosophy so why would it not belong on this board?
NO FUCKING GENERALS. Generals are pure cancer and don't work when you try to shoehorn every topic into one.
>Why can't the mods delete the fucking philosophy threads that cover over half of Veeky Forums?
fuck off, these are the only decent threads most days on this board. also its impossible to separate lit and phil. theres plenty of phil thats written in a literary style.
just keep reporting stupid ass bait threads and the board will improve--if you want good fiction threads make them yourself.
it's like people who are afraid of genre literature, failing to realise that the cowboy genre that mccarthy plays off was considered the YA of its time when it was the predominant genre lit. they're afraid of finding out something won't hurt them because it has a hint of distinction about it.
i mean distinction as in difference, but some of it might be they worry phil posters are stealing some imaginary prestige from them. which would be superretarded because half the philosophy lit does read is either drug free xanax or scat porn. neither of those things are shit you can really brag about over the guy reading books about drug free xanax with tennis or scat porn with bombs.
That is some weapons-grade autism, my man. Seek help.
>Why can't the mods delete the fucking philosophy threads that cover over half of Veeky Forums? Move them to Veeky Forums. This is retarded.
Have you never been to Veeky Forums before?
Philosophy threads absolutely belong here you fucking cunt and they always have done
Fuck off back to plebbit if you dont like it
m8 that's not the weapons grade autism that comes out on this shit, you've seen nothing yet compared to the last time someone mentioned this.
that's a summer breeze of light aspergers compared to the last time i remember when philosophy posters basically showed how they would destroy and salt the earth of this board if they had to leave. i'm sure lots of people got a nice rec list out that time, but that's not even out of first gear.
philposting is directly responsible for
>sam harris
>peterson
>stirner
>racebaiting
>polbaiting
>women are evil
>r9k
etc. etc.
threads. gas all philposters, or at least move them to a containment
FIX:
Veeky Forums - literature &humanities
Veeky Forums - history &social sciences
and fix Veeky Forums
/mat/ mathematics &natural sciences
Everything is actually organized, AND each board has a group to mock. Everybody is happy except dildo-engineers, vagina ethicists, and masturbation behaviorists.
N-no you
stirner's about the only one those that sticks.
btw r9k started this board when phil posters spammed the fuck out of the robots until moot decided they made enough content for a board. that's why the really old philosophy rap battle threads have red backgrounds because we are *from* r9k
#the more you know
The philosophy threads are the best part of Veeky Forums.
The stupid atheist vs. religion threads need to be banned though. Same goes for obvious /pol/ bait.
>and fix Veeky Forums
>/mat/ mathematics &natural sciences
So Veeky Forums would be what - IQ threads, popsci threads, which college threads and a healthy mix of /pol9k/ and /x/? Math is the only good thing on this board even considering it manifests solely in high-school homework and wizard tier topology riddles.
>Veeky Forums - literature &humanities
>Veeky Forums - history &social sciences
Doesn't matter how you name it, things will stay the same. The best places to discuss art here are /ic/ and, ironically, Veeky Forums anyways.
Why would it not be 1/2? If your first number is higher than 1/2, then the odds are rerolling will give you a worse number.
Why was this thread deleted?
Because it's not related to literature. Refer all you babby punctuation questions to Google like you were told to, faggot.
Probably because if your post indicates you are illiterate, there's no way your post is going to be on topic.
But there was actual discussion in the thread.
>OP is a faggot who ruin the thread from the get go
Are you trying to relate this as news, ungrammatical one? Start a new thread and you can be the dick sucking faggot who ruined it for everyone this time by being OP if you think there's some genuine discussion of literature to be had.
No, nobody here is smart enough to to discuss it
It's also not literature you fucking idiot
>smart
eironia
We just need to ban shower thought and political threads.
I don't make threads, idk what percentage of our relatively small board makes OPs, easy to get pushed around by neo-pol9k crossovers without proper moderation.
the problem with philposting is that while it's good in theory - grounded discussion oriented around philosophy texts, in practice it becomes showerthoughts and shit like
>dude what is free will
>prove moral nihilism; protip you cant
etc threads
and as those low quality threads are allowed to proliferate under the banner of "philosophy," it opens the door for /pol/ posters who drop by and see garbage threads on the board and think "well my garbage will fit right in"
if instead a /pol/crossboarder dropped by and saw nothing but lit boards he wouldn't even feel inclined to try to spread his garbage here and just fuck off back to colonize /int/ or something
unfortunately i think the damage has been done, but we should at least contain the shower tier philosophy threads
This, I had to come to Veeky Forums to get away from the 24/7 Rome posts and "Has degeneracy ever been this common before" idiots