The undone paradox

Could we travel back in time and change the fact to not birth , because you'll not be living in the future that you've been traveling from and your time travel together with you wouldn't even exist and it's like an paradox that have never been done.

Future is dictated by present. Yet, once present has become, it is no longer conditional on past.

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Yeah it is like you said , but with movement that have been done it is like we live in 2 dimensional environment and once we can travel in the past , the past will cross into his future as our future have it's past , till the day it will become the day we traveled and this
movement wouldn't been done or wouldn't exist.

There are no paradoxes in the real world. Either;
1. The world changes. You still exist but there's no record of you if you return to 2018.
2. Circumstances (however improbable) prevent you from changing the past.
3. The world changes. "Our" reality (the one you set out from) still exists, but you can't return here. You can only go back to an "alternate" 2018.
4. "Backwards" time travel is not possible.

All these variations have been used in SF stories.

One consistent resolution of the Grandfather Paradox is that you are born with 1/2 probability, and if you are born you go back in time to kill your grandfather, therefore you are born with 1/2
probability.

Yes i think that we can still exist in the past that we have traveled but i meant it for the future.
If time travel realy exist as many scientist say we can't change our future past but the future of the past that we have traveled.
Nothing is impossible.

Yeah but killing the grandfather doesen't mean that this would be a paradox because you can still exist in the future .

I think this is more accurate.

how about killing your grandfather and becoming your own like Fry in futurama? do you think any abnormalities would appear?

Your genes wouldn't be the same.
Heck, letting him live but delaying your conception 5 minutes would result in a different "you". Some other sperm would win the race.

Old joke. You kill your grandfather but remain absolutely unchanged. This tells you your grandmother was unfaithful to him.

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Yeah even with another sperm winning the race would be another person , that can be an paradox too.

The future sucks. Google "march 3 2019 technical update"

That's not a paradox because it is not possible. You can not go back in time.
Assuming you could, it'll go as how that system defines it.

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That's not a paradox because it is not possible. You can not go back in time.
Assuming you could, it'll go as how that system defines it." But can you send non physical things back like messages?

march 3 2019 technical update

Isn't this the plot of steins;gate ?
Not that I've ever seen it

steins;gate

Never played it

Somebody already figured out that you could change the past a little bit..... Once you get someone receiving messages in the past and the people in the past doing buried messages to be found in the future. I will have to find the thread.

typo. You could change the future a little bit

>implies time travel is possible

for electro-magnetic phenomenon

Explained as a movie plot:

The short version is that the news station picks up the signals with one of the networks satellites. The news team and crew are watching a version of the 3 month update. One of the crew knows where the video originates from because the update shows footage of where they have been scavenger hunting and shows the buildings they are planning to go to next week. There is enough info on the video to find the building and leave a message to be found in the future by this guy. There are a series of messages going back and forth with info where the next forward going message will be found. The people in early 2018 want the event and war to never happen. The people in the future know this cant happen. Knowing the time frame (number of days hours and minutes between the past and the future) for message going back caveat starts the final set of messages that take place over 3 days. The people in the future promise to give the exact location and time of the event that messes up the future. Then the next message is the location of cross streets and a description of the building where the command center for the event is located. The people in the past are given exact instructions as to when the target must be hit a day later) The military puts up two birds wuth 500 pound laser guided bombs. They make the drop. The command center is taken out but it is the command center for the embedded Chinese troops ready to take over central California. not the command center for the nuclear attack. The people in the future check a map with some notes on it and apparently the occupied territory in central California is less than half of what it was brfore . The main character sends a final message to the past. The event was in play when the target in central California was taken out. He tells them why they can’t stop the event. The people in the news room watch the final words and then the lights go out.

Doesn't have to be another sperm. Genes don't decide everything.

Sending information back in time is just as paradoxical as going yourself.
In 2018 you receive plans for a battery with 100 times the capacity of anything existing.
The message adds that the patent was granted in 2020. You build the battery, patent it in 2020, and make a fortune.
In 2030 you transmit the plans for the super-battery back to 2018 along with the date of the patent.
Who invented the battery?
The information just appears out of nowhere!

Lester delRey explained this clearly in his story "And it comes out here".

ive always felt like backwards time travel is inherently impossible. theres no way you could physically "go back", but if you buy into string theory, maybe you could go to a dimension that exists in the past. and if that was the case your actions would have no effect on the "you" that exists in the dimension you currently exist in. forward time travel is a much cooler subject imo, in regards to time dilation. the fact that you could only physically age a few months travelling at near light speed while earth and everyone you know would age hundreds of years and be dead, respectively. shits tight yo.

No, this is grandfather paradox all over again.

Think about like this, there is a normal timeline, the timeline were you don't stop your birth and live a normal life, but when you create a time-machine and go back in time and stop your birth you make a brand-new timeline were you weren't born.
Got it?

Yeah, it is possible, but your going to need to almost violate 1 law of physics.

TL;DW, can you break it down?

which link you pseudo-/x/philes

Yes

What strain?

SPOILER ALERT

time travel will never exist. We know this because we have not been visited by time travelers

Unless either:

(1) we have and were to stupid to know about it, or

(2) the time police cleaned up the mess so the time traveler's visits were retroactively stopped and deleted, or

(3) the government violently suppresses the info and makes the person who let it ou look like a paranoid schizophrenic a la Michael Hastings, or

(4) some variant of one of these:

I'm Assuming that said time traveler didn't just come back here in a fluke situation and had built a machine so to speak, wouldn't that person be able to overcome any possible govt suppression and make sure that there was incontrovertible proof that he had come back in time? Not discounting time cops though, something like that would absolutely have to exist to make sure the "future" wouldn't be destroyed.

First one, the video then tell us

I meant time cops FROM the future. Like, it's illegal to travel back, so they traveled back and arrested him, meaning he doesn't exist anymore.

but what if somebody saw all that mess? is that where govt coverups come into play? not memeing at all, i genuinely love this subject.
thats a goddamn long video fella but ill post in 44 minutes

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>what if somebody saw all that mess?

They wouldn't. And if they did, they would un-see it after the time pigs get travel to before the time travelers and arrest them, thus preventing them from being seen. If there was some way of detecting alterations to the timeline, it'd be even easier.

For those who said it is impossible , i mean if we could travel back in time , as many physicists have said that is possible in it's way.
Nothing is impossible .

>grandfather paradox in 2018
this is literally the current state of sci

I believe in neither the possibility of time travel, nor government conspiracies, nor the ChronoCops.

There are a few "reasonable" proposed schemes; ones which don't flatly contradict Relativity.
. Wormholes, one end of which is moved around near lightspeed for awhile
. Black holes spun so fast that the Singularity turns into a ring which you can pass through without destruction
They all have one feature in common.
You can't go back to an era before the time machine was built!!

So your argument isn't air-tight. As soon as the first machine is built, say in the 25th century, it will immediately spew forth historians and reporters from centuries still further in the future, all wanting to interview the inventor. ;)

t. Ezra Pound