What is the most masculine book you have read?

my diary, desu

Agreed

Veeky Forums is the wrong place for that kind of question but
Moby Dick is pretty manly user

>The book of 5 rings
>The art of war
>Achtung panzer
>On war
>The prince and other writings
Can I have my empire now plz?

>Veeky Forums is the wrong place for that kind of question
This, Veeky Forums is the gayest/most feminine board outside of maybe /lgbt/

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Old Man and the Sea

And still

if the mouse drowns himself in bleach
and the cat cannot eat him
has he not shown he's not a mouse?

i literally cried reading this

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Maddox please go.

Maddox wrote a book on masculinity? That guy is the least masculine person I can imagine. Jaded cunt does not mean masculine, get it through your thick skulls already. I know so many guys who think they're the epitome of manly if they use foul language and are rude fucks.

for further reading

My diarrhea desu

He wrote that back in the 2000s when "fratire" was considered funny. Maddox is just a run of the mill pussy liberal now though.

I'm just amused that he thinks anyone would have posted that unironically.

Your reading comprehension is atrocious. Moron.

Slingblade?

Unending rape and murder is not inherently masculine

This m8

Honestly anything by memeingway

The Iliad
Sir Gawain and the Green Knight
Beautiful Losers
Meditations

Fuck Achilles, he was a coward and not a true warrior. Hector is, without a doubt, the true hero of the Iliad.

also this

Education of a Felon

>Hector is, without a doubt, the true hero of the Iliad.
this is true, but Achilles wasn't a coward, you are just butthurt

Under patriarchy, all piv sex is rape you shitlord.

It is masculinity before the female element is introduced.

Damn
I actually,unironically agree with this post and this image

Those first two paragraphs are very good and insightful, then user goes complete retard in the last two and just sounds like any other autist.

Probably this or what user said

Apology of Socrates

war and peace

>the hero is who i like, not who actually functions as a hero
Fuck off.

Who is the hero of a Bildungsroman? The undeveloped boy or girl.
Watch E7, bookdork. You've been spooked into pseudointellectualism. Too much Russian trash and American trash.

Complete dialogues of Plato.

This meme would be more persuasive if it wasn't repeated ad nauseam by feminists and frail men.

yeah the word "cuckoldry" hurted my feelings too user

It's not (just) that, that entire half is a buzzword salad.

The tropic of cancer/capricorn

>calls others out for pseudointellectualism
>doesn't even realize that both Hector and Achilles are the true hero and that's the whole point

I>NTERVIEWER

>This is perhaps another old horse that doesn’t need to be beaten any more, but you’ve been accused of being a “macho” writer. Anything more to say about that one?

>HARRISON

>All I have to say about that macho thing goes back to the idea that my characters aren’t from the urban dream-coasts. A man is not a foreman on a dam project because he wants to be macho. That’s his job, a job he’s evolved into. A man isn’t a pilot for that reason either—he’s fascinated by airplanes. A farmer wants to farm. But you know what it’s like here and up in the Upper Peninsula. This is where I grew up. How is it macho that I like to hunt and fish? I’ve been doing it since I was four.

No, Achilles functions as the hero. Hector is only the 'antagonist' in Homer's telling of the Trojan War. He's a plot device at worst and an 'anti-villian' at best.

Who is the Iliad about? Achilles. That is enough to make him the hero.
There are examples of two-sided stories where there are in-fact two heroes, who are eachother's antagonist. The Iliad is not an example of this.

>I've been mentally raped by my environment since childhood to instil all-pervasive self-doubt and now my only reaction to anything sincere is half-assed attempts at armchair psychoanalysis
STOP WATCHING PORN

the sea wolf
red harvest

both two great books by real men who did manly things and also wrote books

>frail men
I see you've totally missed the point. Either that, or refused to face the reality of it simply because it hurts your ego. Either way, this post is very ironic.

what does being insecure mean exactly? That you aren't happy with yourself? But what if being macho makes you happy and it's only when people tell you that you're being insecure that you don't feel happy anymore?

Insecure is just a dumb, stupid label that was invented to make people feel bad about themselves for being stereotypical" which is another stupid word because there is nothing wrong with being stereotypical as long as you do it well.

>That you aren't happy with yourself?
Insecurity != happiness. Insecurity is more closely associated with unease and uncertainty. Willing naivety is a good example of happiness + insecurity operating together.

Everything is a stupid dumb label, that's how language works friend. Without these labels you would be unable to convey what is inside your head.

House of Chains.

Your definition just makes it sound like an easily applied label that can be slapped onto anything, used to mock/defame it and then be easily defended to make them only look worse because if people say they aren't insecure, that makes them look more insecure.

Like if you label someone self-righteous, there's no way to defend themselves because any defense will only feed into that. Insecurity seems like the same thing. Plus, I don't think there's anything inherent about willing naivity and uneasiness. In some cases, being willing naive is probably if anything, a wise decision because you legitimately won't like the answer and can't effect it in any way.

This desu
((And not just because of the angry passages about women))

The Good Earth
Written by a woman, oddly enough

ITT: People pretending they aren't homosexual

That's not what he said though, you doofus.

> it's only when people tell you that you're being insecure that you don't feel happy anymore?
>Insecure is just a dumb, stupid label that was invented to make people feel bad about themselves
If being told you're insecure makes you unhappy, then you're insecure. It's like the old joke
>You're too sensitive.
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN SENSITIVE? HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT? ;_;

This book is a fuckin great dissection of masculinity. The most secure character is the guy with no fucking dick.

McCarthy's Blood Meridian

the book ends with Hector, he's the tragic hero you pleb

a farewell to arms

Taras Bulba

At least /lgbt/ posters get laid.

Just because you don't doesn't mean others don't either

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Genesis.
>The Snake is phallos
>Women get conscious because they desire the better penis
>Women teach consciousness to men via sexual selection
>Men, as conscious beings start wearing clothes, because there is always a better man (penis)
>Women do the same
>Women hate wanting the penis, so they have a tsundere relationship

The snake is also the enchanter, the animal and all those things. It is multilayered. Or rather, it is fractal in nature.

>Insecure is just a dumb, stupid label that was invented to make people feel bad about themselves for being stereotypical

This is true, and conversely "empowered" is the word people use to make people feel good about making retarded decisions and choices in their life.

lol
masculine?
getting clowned by anderson silvaand the guy LITERALLY ran out of the ring - and then right out of the stadium.

I heard he was running while he wrote that book.

Starting Strength.

Why are you so emotional? Because I've pointed out your fragility? But isn't your fragility exactly what makes you more masculine (and therefore better) than everyone else?
You are so confused, dear user.

Beowulf.

>implying the learned norms of masculinity are invalid & not worth clinging to
>implying the bravest act is flouting norms, not holding a line in war

Close to completely wrong, but you've stopped short of action. A man can admit fear, but he can't turn from it and remain a man. Masculinity would be lost. Try again.

Ulysses. Women have written books about violence, drunkenness, war, the untamed wilderness, etc., but no woman could ever produce a work like Ulysses. Nor do women seem to enjoy or understand it, at least not to the degree that men do. Virginia Woolf is a case in point.

Insecurity is the hallmark of masculinity

Exactly. It's what drives the best of us to greatness. Too much self-contentment leads to pathetic deviations, like obesity and obsessions with cartoon ponies.

He seemed to imply insecurity negates masculinity

I know several people who claim this, and his former to be their favourites

>Nobody has mentioned Herodotus' history
>Nobody has mentioned Xenophon's Anabasis
>Nobody has mentioned Pliny the elder's Natural History

what, are you fucking gay?

Musashi

Gilgamesh is manly
so is the The Three Musketeers

>a bunch of men being led into doing stupid shit because they all want to be some broad

whoa.... blew my FUCKING MIND dude..