I have similar thoughts. Almost everything I read is old, which makes me think that I'm not giving newer authors a chance, thus contributing to the death of literature
Adam Ramirez
I'm also reading through the classics. My plan was to work my way up to contemporary literature, but I don't think that's realistic. I think I'll instead try to read the canon and new works concurrently.
Evan Stewart
I have actually truly fallen for the start with the Greeks meme and I have been studying Attic Greek heavily for about 2 years. I can now read Attic and Koine Greek relatively easily with a dictionary at hand (which I need to use about once per page, on average). Other dialects are tougher, but not particulary hard once you get a sense of the sound changes.
I read in Greek and English about the same amount per week (~8 hours each), but I read Greek at perhaps 1/4 the speed. So about 20% of the content I read is classical literature in original.
I do this for mental exercise mostly, but I think reading ancient literature is important. Once I started getting very well-acquainted with classical literature, all of the rest I read made far more sense in the context of West. My day-to-day life remains the same, but I genuinely feel that it allows me to get much more out of what I read because of a better ability to understand the changes in thought and its implication throughout newer texts.
On a purely aesthetic level, Greek is massively beautiful, which often makes reading in it doubly rich, for the aesthetic beauty and the content itself. Every day I thank my former self for embarking on this project.
Anyone else here study classical languages to good effect here? I can't comprehend Latin to a useful level, but I've started to add it into the mix lately.
Gavin Nguyen
So how often do you read contemporary English fiction?
And of the overall fiction you read, how much of it is what you would call well-renowned, and how much is obscure?
Levi Evans
Personally I read a ton of 19th century stuff. Novels poetry and philosophy. Theater is the exception where I read more contemporary of at least 20th century stuff or Shakespeare and a few of his contemporaries.
Nathan King
how did you get started with this? unless i've been rused
Colton Williams
You've been rused.
Evan Baker
I would say that there is not much what we call in English "fiction" in Greek. There is, I believe, only one extant novel, but the huge majority of texts are historical, poetic (including plays), or the occassional history written in verse. The prose history stuff is the easiest to read for me, so it's what i read the most in Greek (maybe 4 out of every 5 texts). The historiography in Greek is very impressionistic and subjective, but I think it is still best described as non-fiction.
In English, I also tend to read non-fiction more often than not, but I read perhaps 15-20 novels or books of English verse last year. Just about all of what I read was written by American authors from between the 1850s and 1990s. I'm not opposed to contemporary or foreign fiction, but my tastes tend to lead me to somewhat earlier texts. I would guess that about 20% of what I read is (translated) German or Russian. Most of what I read is currently or formerly held in high regard by Western academia (most recently I've read fiction by Updike, Pynchon, Kafka, and Gaddis).
Just wondering - what made you ask? And, btw, what is your relationship with classical and modern texts?
Adam Foster
Your poo hole. I'd like to read some greek with you while I pound that boipoosi.
Christian White
Athenaze books 1 and 2, followed by Morice's collection of constructed texts for beginners/intermediate learners. Then, on to Anabasis. The first year is a slog, but it all coalesces soon enough. After that, the jump in difficulty is pretty big and you'll probably need to refer to English translations to confirm your readings. Now I read more confidently, but I do refer to translations on particlarly tough passages.
You haven't been rused - I'll be the first to admit that my reading is slow and my comprehension is probably not absolutely accurate in many ways. Certain parts of Greek grammar are so foreign to me that I have to sort of refer in my mind to their explanation in English to appropriately understand their effecr on the sentence, if that makes sense. I'm not Richard Lattimore or anything.
>Europeans come on this board having learned English accidentally while reading the comments on porn videos
>"No, it is impossible to learn how to slowly read another language with passable comprehension with two years of concerted effort."
Ok.
Chase Baker
I've looked into Morice as an intro to reading primary authors. Would you say it was worthwhile to read him? Did you feel pretty prepared when you tackled the Anabasis?
Connor Phillips
The classics are classic for good reason Why read the best books of the last ten years instead of the best books for the last two thousand years?
Dominic Watson
I found it totally worthwhile. I don't like to study vocab or grammar directly, so having the grammar and vocab introduced through texts was extremely useful and fun. Just reading and rereading Morice's texts was enough to get me pretty much ready for Anabasis, but it obviously doesn't cover exactly everything. It's definitely worth the time, but I don't know if there's a scan floating out there. I got my copy almost for free from a library and I think copies of the book can be expensive.
Joshua Evans
>Why read the best books of the last ten years instead of the best books for the last two thousand years?
Don't you have a duty to aid in the creation and appreciation of the future classics from your era?
Chase Lewis
I actually have found a copy online. Anyone who's interested can download it here (legally, I believe) in whatever format you want.
In my experience, it's mostly Americans and other anglos who cannot seem to grasp the notion of speaking any other language beside their mother tongue.