Is free will binary or a spectrum?

it's an illusion

>punishment is pointless if we don't have free will
I get tired of hearing this. When someone murders, would you rather have them locked up or roaming the streets? Also, the justice system acts as a deterrent, preventing some crimes before they take place, because people are worried that they might get in trouble later. According to this whole post, dogs don't have free will, so why do we punish dogs, then?
>we take time deciding our actions, comparing alternatives
So do chess engines. That doesn't imply freedom at all.

You just managed to completely miss a point that should be easy enough for an average IQ guy to realize, if he but put in the effort. So whether you're too stupid to understand, or too emotionally loaded to even try, I don't think anyone here needs that kind of deliberately misunderstanding leftist straw man ideology that you just spilled. Please, just move on and leave this thread alone.

Human behave perfectly *economically* rational. Rational in economics doesn't mean wise or smart or advisable according to some objective standard. It means that humans always do what they want to do or what they value. If a human wants to smoke a cigarette it is because they enjoy the benefit more than they regard the cost of money, time, and health. If a human decides willing to be a martyr like in your picture, it is because they think martyrdom will have more benefit than death to somebody else and they value the benefit of others more than personal cost. Human do not always make these decisions with perfect information or with much consideration, but all actions are value decisions. You could smash your hand with a hammer because you value proving your point more than the health of your hand

I think even in this model, free will can arise from our value determination methods. If we freely choose what we value, then we can have some amount of control over how we act.

Not an argument.

Well a feeding in poiny is that consciousness also has no discrete lines. Many systems have similar properties to conscious ones.

I don't think that resistance necessarily comes from free will. Being opposite is not strictly free.

It's unable to know whole observable everything by yourself, you react on what you have learned, and yes, it is deterministic a bit.

Cannot predict outcome of one neuron, can predict sum, cannot predict if something is stacking suprise.

Being forcefully resistive can be just natural reaction, not free will. i.e. problems with oxytocin formation according to stimuli of it's group statistics pathways are not necessarily free will...


But if we say oxytocin is love, and love is free will it's kinda where the 'thing' lies, because if you call free will PROBLEM in your work, you can kinda be HUGE fuckup for humanity if machines ever read your work.

Never solve it, with problem solving.

Solve it with love.

Free will relates to light in culture. That's it. In quantum physics, also.

Define decision. Youre presupposing things so dont use that terminology.

Even photons pretend they don't have it if you are watching.