>be supposedly smart >decide to major in philosophy >really enjoy the history of ideas aspect >no creative thought whatsoever on how to produce my own philosophy >just enjoy comfy feels of hanging with old greek bros >program is highly analytic at uni >students are encouraged to write highly insular papers steeped in formal logic without any broader unifying vision >this dissatisfies me >wish i could take more history of philosophy courses >try to make friends with conty professors >conty professors are all lovable whackjobs >yet also have their heads up their ass with impenetrable terminology >too late to transfer to another major >have learned more doing side reading than from classroom reading >$100k down the drain >will have to start paying loans soon >just want to be a comfy professor telling kids about plato >fear the publish or perish academic complex and the state of modern philosophy >will probably commit suicide or work at starbucks this time next year
Any good modern philosopher recommendations? Non-conty/analytic. I need to start getting more familiar with where I should go for grad school. Unfortunatey, I'm a monolingual American.
Parfit is totally devoid of math and a lot of contys like him but he's still totally proved by the analytics. Start with Reasons and Persons
Austin Wilson
This has to be bait.
Grayson Ramirez
reddit
Hunter Cooper
you will never be a philosophy professor if you can't figure out for yourself where to go next. Robert Brandom bridges the gap between continental and analytic philosophy through his philosophy of language. Reading him is reading the entire history of philosophy, although through his very analytic mind. His work is extremely difficult though and you'd need to really step up your game to get a feel for him within one year. If I were you, I'd just start studying for the LSAT or GMAT.
Carter Mitchell
>Just want to be a comfy Prof teaching kids about Plato I know that feel, user. I know that feel.
Jeremiah Miller
I know that feel, user. What saved me was getting a job at a school that emphasizes teaching rather than research. I was able to sell myself as a good teacher in English and found a comfy job at a small school. In my experience departments always want people to teach the low-level survey courses, but this is what I like. My teaching load is pretty heavy, but teaching is what I love. I know the job market is shit, but look for work at some small and comfy out-of-the-way place where you can get to know your students. Shit, even look at Christian schools if you can sell yourself as one.
Jackson Lee
what statues are those heads from?
Mason Martin
>be supposedly smart >decide to major in philosophy Kek.
Noah James
How are you studying Greek philo if you're monolingual? Didn't you learn Greek?
Xavier Evans
>really enjoy the history of ideas aspect This might sound really wacky, crazy and out there, but did you not consider studying intellectual history?
Isaiah Walker
>Non-conty/analytic
Landon Jenkins
>>be supposedly smart >>decide to major in philosophy >>$100k down the drain
I just don't understand how anyone could be this moronic. What was the thought process behind this? How did you plan to return 100k$? Why not just read books and write in your free time? Like, seriously, what the actual fuck??????????? I refuse to believe there are people like this.
Luke Scott
I miss grad school.
Couldn't make a career in academia because I'm a worthless shit. But I still daydream about a cozy academic post. I look at job postings and hate myself a little more.
Colton Adams
>wants to teach Plato >is in grad school >I'm a monolingual American Jesus Christ, I'm a major and I already read Ancient Greek. You think you have the slightest chance of getting a job in academia if you can't even understand Plato in Greek?
Jacob Perez
Just go to law school and do philosophy on the side because you're on a downward spiral to death and you clearly don't have the foresight and comprehension to make it into academia without great struggle Not talking down just trying to get your head out of your ass. You're 100k in debt for christ's holy fucking sake
Michael Garcia
languages for an english-speaking philosophy student to learn:
necessary-tier: >latin >german
somewhat interesting for logicians-tier: >polish
meme-tier: >ancient greek >french
oh fuck nigger what are you doing-tier: >spanish
Carter Anderson
Ayn Rand
Easton Brooks
I like this picture
Xavier Miller
Did you get a teaching degree or what? I'm interested in teaching philosophy or english
Justin Rogers
>you're 100k in debt >law school is the obvious solution!
Solid suggestion famalam
Ian Fisher
>philosophy >latin Please tell me, which philosopher are you gonna study? Cicero?
>polish Okay you're kidding
>ancient greek as meme kek
>spanish agreed
At first I was raging at your ignorance, but you got me at Polish my man
Ayden Kelly
>Okay you're kidding
Im not the same user, but Polish makes sense for a logician to learn.
Noah Hughes
someone post more greek memes
Julian Gray
>Please tell me, which philosopher are you gonna study? Cicero? Every major philosopher after the Greeks and before Descartes (and a good deal after Descartes) wrote in Latin
Jaxon Wilson
But that era was called the Dark Ages for a reason.
Matthew Torres
Nah, a PhD and a job at a small college. In Canada teacher unions will keep an inexperienced teacher with a PhD from getting a job, but in colleges and private schools you don't need the teaching degree.
When I was doing my grad studies I took every teaching opportunity and TA job I could get. I knew I wouldn;t be a great scholar, but could sell myself as an experienced teacher with innovative pedagogy and a personal touch. The job market is tough, but I managed to find something by looking at small colleges far from big cities. I mean, this suited me well, but I also realize that it is a limited career path. Suits me fine for the moment and pays the bills.
Caleb Lopez
someone needs to go back to /r/philosophy
Leo Jackson
on latin, there's nothing to add to this you must be ignorant as to the contributions of polish logicians, theologians and philosophers on modern analytical thought—which is not surprising, because as i said, it is a very niche interest. don't take the slav squat memes to heart.
the meme of learning ancient greek is not that its not useful, it's that it should be the prima lingua for philosophers. in terms of utility, latin and german (and english) encompass the breadth of modern philosophical thought. german is self-evident.
of course, i'm entirely ignoring sanskrit not because it's not beautiful or meaningful, but because it doesn't integrate into a western philosophical tradition. only for comparative analysis or focused study should one learn it.
Henry Murphy
>do grad school >rack up insane debt >flee to Europe, never pay back a cent But also you will never be able to return to America. You will be an intellectual in exile. Personally, I think it's romantic, but I respect that most people are neither ballsy or passionate enough to follow through with it.
lol have you considered law school?
Samuel White
What, how? What possible benefit would Polish grant you?
ppl throw away their life over this? if you aren't a total financial mong you can pay that off in like 5 years
William Myers
>university isn't free in his country wew
Nathaniel Wilson
I'm disappointed this hasn't led to a new Lost Generation.
Jaxson Cruz
>paying for grad school You're doing it wrong.
In American PhD programs, grad school pays for you!
Samuel Rivera
Why would you pay for school oh my fucking god.
Landon Butler
I went to a British grad school (top 5 world ranking) for just 11k£. Equally ranked American institutions can't compete with those prices
Jace Thomas
Hot damn. If this flies in my country too then I'll be preparing myself to get into Europe in a couple of years.
Levi Myers
>paying for grad school
huh . . . yeah ok
Brody Bailey
>he doesn't know about the 20th century polish logicians Leave.
Asher Turner
You can visit the US but not live, just want to clear that up
Andrew Lopez
>be supposedly smart mkay >decided to major in philosophy mkay >no creative thought WTF, not even the slightest personal thought? >100k loan definitely a fucking retard, that's why only rich kids can major in philosophy
You should start writing novel(at least diary) or songs (if you have any kind of musical skills) or drawing in your free time
Austin Cox
What philosopher is that getting the haircut?
Easton Davis
Oh you're an analytic. I thought we were speaking about philosophy. I'll let you enjoy Polish, alright? Have fun.
Why would you even care about learning any language, though?
Liam Rogers
Instead of Sanskrit, did I need to learn Chinese if I want to have a broader sense on Eastern tradition?And also about the tradition of Middle East?
Jayden Diaz
First goes Sanskrit, then Chinese.
Joseph Jackson
are you another one of the Pitt students with a hardon for this guy? Just cause he got a mil and a half doesn't mean he has much to say
Jacob Clark
Wronski?
Luke Myers
=>harvey milk's banana cabana is taking graduate students =>"I'm there" =>my new boss has his leg crossed in his stiff corduroy pants as he reads my portfolio like it's the fucking newspaper, looks up to me and says, "aren't you a little over qualified for this job?". That's the funniest part! =>I decide to stay at the banana cabana after all and I never went back to school ever since, my fry-cook Jeffery loves this about me: "serves upward", nobody knows what it fucking means! but I say it when I finish
Is this funny story??? Am I ready???
Colton Morgan
Q. Meillassoux
Isaac Campbell
;D
Anthony King
Does anyone want to do something with their degree besides teach/do more schooling?
I'd like to write for a living in some capacity or another.
Brandon Sanchez
nazwałeś?
Noah Sullivan
why would anyone major in philosophy especially if you have to pay for it? Like nigga wtf are you doing, just go to a library and read a shitload of books and live on welfare
Isaac Ross
Somethings that will help you in your graduate career.
:Outside reading is mandatory. Its a fucked up way to get you to double check the references of whatever blowhard you're examining at that time.
:Graduate programs are supposed to be specialized. If your classes are very analytic it could be just first year graduate skills training, or your program is mainly focused on analytical thought versus continential thought. -for this you need to have researched your professors academic interests, as well as said graduate program. There are many third party sites like that one site that ranks all the programs.
Leo Gray
don't read Polish, but I read him in French.
Jacob Foster
Its b8. No one would do this when they could achieve the same results by picking up a fucking book.
Jeremiah Long
>tfw wasted 4 years of my life is the only solution suicide?
Landon Allen
>be supposedly smart >decide to major in philosophy
stopped reading right there
Brayden Martin
>finished classical studies >supposed to go to university doing shit like literature or philosophy >go work abroad for three years as a handyman at uncle's hotel >come back, do six months of engineering >leave >will probably have to go look for another job somewhere else again
Like you, I wasted four years of my life.
Dylan Peterson
He believes the Dark Ages meme.
Juan Gutierrez
Which of these three unis would you say is best? >Leeds >Liverpool >Sheffield t. secondary school student on the day before the UCAS deadline
Yes I'm fucked because it's not Oxbridge, but they don't accept retakes so
Luke Kelly
>All these cunts fucking over their parents who co-signed on the loans
Should be gassed,all of them
Colton Jones
because it's still a bachelor degree you retard, it's a pretty valuable thing on the job market if you actually know what to do with it.
you don't put on the application "I know a ton of things about greek philosophy", you say "I know how to think critically, etc"
it might not be worth 100k, but it's definitely worth it to just have a bachelors. high school degrees don't mean shit anymore
Brandon Wilson
If this is not bait, I am you.
Only, I have no loan (come from continental Europe) and I am now a fraud on PhD scholarship in the UK. Will keep drifting as long as I can sucking money out of Academia. Try and catch me, suicide!
Gabriel Bailey
>Will keep drifting as long as I can sucking money out of Academia. Try and catch me, suicide! kek
