Why do humans commit suicide?

Ive been sucidal before. The sufffering (mostly emotional) becomes too strong, and you just want it to stop. High IQ and shithole parents is the main reason for the suffering in my case

Isn't it actually more surprising that suicide is so rare? For the longest time the majority of people had hard lives. Even now there are millions of people living in horrible conditions. Starving, not having access to good hygiene, having to endure painful illness with no health care, having to live in dangerous places where they have to fear for their lives, not having a comfortable place to live in, having to do hard and dangerous work for very long hours for almost nothing. No hope that it will ever get better.

Yet still suicide is pretty rare.

Sometimes preys when they're in the grasp of a predator stop resisting and just let it happen. Maybe it's the same underlying process in a way

>High IQ and shithole parents is the main reason for the suffering in my case
2edgy4me

>suicide is so rare?
It's not that rare at all. Way more common than murders and more common than traffic related deaths (varies by country)

I think you need a base level of luxury to have enough perspective to even consider suicide. People who's lives are consumed with the struggle to survive ironically don't commit suicide, because they're basically animals.

Physical/emotionall/verbal/sexual abuse. Lack of love, neglect and general unstability since childhood. Sometimes i wish i was a brainlet like my siblings, just so i could larp as a normie. I only find relief in homicidal fantasies

Usually as a way out of a situation, however in a clinical context there are usually two types: those in the "spur of the moment" types which is seen with bipolar patients or acutely psychotic states vs the "slowly building up" types which are your depressive types or those with negative symptoms of schizophrenia. Most of the cases I've seen usually say something like "i just wanted a way out".

Because they're bored.

Suicide, when we think of it as a mental illness, is always done as a way to make the pain end. Again, in the context of it being a mental illness, people who commit suicide are in intense pain either physical, emotional, or even both and believe, either correctly or incorrectly, that there is no other available option to end the pain they're feeling other than ending it all. It'

However, suicide in the for of self sacrifice is something entirely different. Self sacrificing suicide can be seen as a way to preserve ones progeny or some other reason along that line of thinking.

People commit suicide because they've had enough of the game

Everything is so tedious ;_;

You call 56 per 100,000 not rare at all?

some people are too good for this world

I think the better question is, which method of suicide is the best (quickest and/or least painful).?

>You call 56 per 100,000 not rare at all?
no i called it not THAT rare as opposed to SO rare as you claim. again more common than traffic deaths and murders (varies by country)

C'mon man, the table below the one shown by you (without the age-standardizing) has much higher values. Also, the data fails to mention if it's successful suicides or attempts of suicide.

Autists dont understand the value of a person

>High IQ and shithole parents is the main reason for the suffering in my case

Humblebrag detected

>(quickest and/or least painful)
kys like a man faggot

It all depends on your definition of rare I guess. Wouldn't you say 0.12% (and that's the biggest rate) is rare?

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>I only find relief in homicidal fantasies

Seek help. Soon.

I believe that I experienced a similar childhood to yours, and I actually had to work through some very serious anger issues that were brought about by my upbringing. If you are at the point where are having fantasies like this, it is time to be proactive and get help.

What percentage of suicide would you consider not so rare?

I think suicide would be a mistake. The subconscious will to live will make you fear death more than the most terrible monster in your last moments, no matter how miserable you are when you decide to go through it.

haha lol

>Being such a brainlet that you would have the desire to live

It's a lack of motivation to live actually. Dopamine and other happiness hormones give you a drive to move on with life.

Our nervous system is completely driven by our evolutionary developed dopamine reward system. Something must be wrong with it, for example dopamine receptor regression, which causes you to be depressed and in some cases suicidal.

>not staying alive just to suffer

life is both pointless and awful, existing only to exist is idiotic

Strug lyfe.
Include me in the screencap

there won't be any screencaps you dump elitist soyboy newchanner newfag uneducated liberal edgy childish manlet fucking brainlet !

because you are already hanging. it's only a matter of time when you die. everything you do in a life is actually delaying your death.

Morphine overdose

I don't enjoy living. There is a piece of me that hopes things will change which is why I'm still alive currently. If I get out of undergrad and still don't enjoy living I'll probably jump off of a building.

fuck off poo

this

Everything we are told is opinion, not fact.
Everything we see is perspective, not truth.
Everything we taste can spoil,
everything we touch can break

I can accept these fates… save one.

Everything loved can be lost,
Even One Self.

Hanging yourself is very much like making love to a beautiful woman.
One minute, you're jerking around, the tongue's sticking out, your eyes bulging, face goes red.
And the next thing you know, you're in heaven.

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发现得好

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Just go to a party, young user, find the joy in living.
I talk for myself, for a long time my biggest desire was kill myself, I was always too much into partying or too much into being alone.
When my life becomes to disconnected from people I get depressed, when I became to much connected, too much party and stuff I became impulsive. Just find the middle between the two and be happy. Meditate.

Those people have a struggle to fight against every single day of their lives just to get a drink of water.
The people who off themselves have no meaning because they have no meaningful engagement with reality. All of their basic obstacles to living have been removed, and all the remaining obstacles are so insurmountable, they just give up.

This.

Sensitive and intelligent people are more likely to kill themselves. They are more sensitive to the fracturing of the community and then of the family. Humans evolved living and surviving together. The modern world is trading family and community for Globalism/sociopathology and social welfare/nanny state. This is destroying purpose and meaning. When you don't have purpose, meaning, love and connectedness you kill yourself.
Check out recent statistics on suicide. Middle aged white people are realizing that putting things other than having their own family first was a terrible idea and are killing themselves. Blacks are not killing themselves because they are only capable of living in the moment and white peoples' culture is taking care of them, like a child race, fulfilling some of the void of not having family themselves. Because blacks lack the same level of intelligence they also suffer less.

I know this sounds horrible but it's true. It would be nice to believe in gods and fairies and that people who evolved different superficial difference over 10's of thousands of years to better suit their environment did not also evolve internally, intellectually, to better suit their environment. Believing this is incongruous with Darwinian evolution.

White man "solved" the world's problems leaving him with nothing to do, no meaning, no purpose, etc. So he is killing himself, literally and politically. Negros need nature or human beings to take care of them or they revert to bush "people"/shanty town "people". As long was white technology can take car of Negros they will continue to overpopulate until nature gets involved.

That's racist.

sad but true!

truth always hurt

You don't seem to realize you're in Veeky Forums

We don't make broad and unscientific claims in these parts, and we certainly don't discuss political ideologies. I think you know where to do that

>>>/retard/

>posts graphic that proves the other guy right
confirmed retard

Why do people die from disease?

Cetaceans kill themselves too, don't forget. They probably get extra sad. Do elephants suicide?

Better question is why do we try to stop people from suicide?

As soon as some invisible nobody goes "boo hoo, life is 2hard4me, gonna kill myself" suddenly the instinctive kneejerk reaction of everyone around is "nooo, dont do it, you are a valuable human bean"
Cant we just let people make their own decisions no matter how stupid they are (or smart actually, because failing your selfpreservation instincts and willingly removing yourself from the genepool is pretty noble actually)

virtue signaling

Usually attention whoring / self-pity that they rationalise as legitimate pain and desire to not live. Often those are the ones who fail or go on messily. Most suicide attempts fail, especially amongst women. Women attempt it more, but men actually do it more (a difference in methods, men usually going for the irrevocably fatal, women usually going for the 50/50 near-death). Of course, that's not to say people aren't legitimately in pain / broken and do it as a spur-of-the-mood thing. Or that there aren't people who spend a great deal of time thinking about whether or not they actually want to live, then kill themselves once they come to the very well-though-out conclusion, to do so.

There are many reasons people do it. We are relatively simple animals combined high abstract reasoning/visualisation/imagination. This obviously leads to conflict, especially as we can be so conditioned and influenced by our experiences and environment. Often on a much more profound level than any other animal. In some ways, we are the weakest and most stupid animal.

>Brought about by my upbringing

Same, except for me it's low IQ.

you two use the liberal vocabulary, it's mediocre

Well the people that are not suicidal obviously have a consensus that life is worth living, and in society the majority sets the standards. It would be depressing for non-suicidal people to accept suicide as a legitimate option.

>High IQ and shithole parents is the main reason for the suffering in my case

A friend of mine, let's call him Tim committed suicide a week ago.
>be me, brainlet medfag
>have to study for biochem exam, so go to library
>meet a schoolmate there, he says:
>"Hey, user. Did you hear that Tim hanged himself yesterday evening?"
>I smile, thinking he's trying to prank me and ask him what he's talking about
>he shows me a text from his girlfriend saying Tim hung himself and that everyone in our hometown knows by now

I just don't understand. He killed himself over a girl and left a handwritten note. I never would've thought he'd do it, he was such a happy man, always going to parties and talking with everyone. His little bro and parents must be going through hell right now.

Sorry for the blogpost, had to get it out. Even missed his funeral because of exams. Never commit suicide bros, even if you think no one cares, there are going to be people crying over your death.

>Only countries with an increase of suicide since 1950s are Brazil and Nigeria
>Intelligent people are killing themselves because the family is disintegrating!!
They clearly didn't teach you to read graphs in middle school

It's a permanent solution.
Would you rather have treatment or a cure?

That, and they're cuck faggots.

Now he'll never be itchy or too cold or uncomfortably hot again. He'll also never be hungry or thirsty or in any pain.
Also, who cares what his relatives are going through? He certainly doesn't.
name 1 (ONE) thing worth living for

Why haven't you killed yourself yet?

Now invert your answer.

Is it because they know God is going to judge them based on their terrible actions and they think, correctly, that by killing themselves they can put it in God's mind to consider not spilling his wrath over as much of their family as he would have if they didn't
>sepuku?

why kill yourself if you're going to die anyways? can't you just wait a little?
>ME WANT EVERYTHING ME WANT NOW
entitled faggot

so you can't name a single thing, I see

If you lack the empathy to understand the pain that suicide brings to those around you, you probably don't have anyone like that anyway.
I'm really sorry for you, but perhaps one day you'll see how short life is and how lucky you are to had been born and given the opportunity to experience it.

>name 1 (ONE) thing worth living for
The possibility of living long enough for the matrix to become real, and be a digitized brain playing third life, battlefield, and being in a digitized porno for all of time.
Risk reward dude.

If it doesn't happen? Who cares, you're dead anyway.
If it does happen? You cucked yourself out of heaven that is actually real.

When you die you stop existing as a person. The answers that say "because they don't want to live" are as detailed as could be. Do you feel overwhelming anxiety everyday? if you die you feel nothing. Feeling terrible everyday for no reason? if you die you feel nothing.

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How about saying it in a non-faggot way:
The brain is a fibbionacci sequence, we are only aware of 2, but there is still 1 and 1' that we don't have conscious control over. 1 is to basic to have the capacity for thought, but things that have a piss poor 2 and a 1' comparable to ours are clearly capable of thought. Isn't is possible that the human 1' has thoughts as well?

>>Only countries with an increase of suicide since 1950s are Brazil and Nigeria
>meanwhile neither one has increased and the non-nigger countries have higher rates

>Also, who cares what his relatives are going through?
i've been struggling with depression the past couple of years and a lot of times i think of not being alive
and the one thing that will always snap me out of those thoughts is my family
no matter how shitty things get for me i would never put them through it

it's probably the most selfish thing you can do

We are genetically programmed by billions of years of evolution to keep on living.

Using your sapient conscious mind to counter every instinct in your body by committing the act of suicide...
That might be the most fucking alpha thing you could do.

>SUUDDOOKU XD

>if you fight to stay alive, you're an animal
then prove your humanity and kys faggot.

Think about it this way: we're mostly descendants of people who didn't have the inclination to kill themselves from a young age.

>he can't even read a line graph
You should look at the height of the dot... oh, never mind.

>posting a graph that proves the other guy and only realizing that after it's been pointed out to you

>meanwhile neither one has increased
ourworldindata.org/suicide
Do you know what a Y axis is? You can see the values there

> and the non-nigger countries have higher rates
Developed countries always had higher rates, even at a time when they were more "familiar" - and the changes in divorce rates since the 1950s evidently haven't resulted in increased suicide rates in America, the United Kingdom, or even the sharply decreased Sweden. That alone falsifies some silly assertion about how the white man is committing suicide now that the family bond is broken or whatever dumb fantasy you had in your head.

the prospect of their suffering ending/pain relief

do you know what a regression line is?

>>That alone falsifies some silly assertion about how the white man is committing suicide now that the family bond is broken or whatever dumb fantasy you had in your head.
>t. brainlet who can't into controllng variables

it's literally one of the leading causes of death worldwide

The sample is age and gender standardized, and you can see similar data on the linked site. I'm waiting for the evidence that sustains your claim, since you're so confident of your enlightened pessimist fantasy

Aren't the rates for Russia, Japan, Sweden, US, and UK lower than at their starting points?

good to know that the only variable that has change over the past 70 years is just divorce rate and unmarried/childless rate

aren't brazil and nigeria (the whole 3 three years of data) flat?

It is very easy to explain.

What is life:

Nothing but a big lottery. Your genes and your environment determine your future.

Some people have it all, handsome, high iq, good parents, plus a lot of luck. These people will succeed in the world. They will grow up to be high on the social hierarchy.

Other people have bad luck. Bad genes etc They will fail in life. They have to live a low hierarchy life, filled with wageslaving and no way to climb, no friends no girlfriends etc.

So you see this whole life is a big lottery and now take into consideration that the whole word tells you YOU ARE A FAILURE.
People like Peterson tell people that you should take responsibility because whereever you are in life, it is not the fault of others.
Also see how the average low conscious normie worships successful people etc and looks down on failures.

Is it really that hard to imagine why someone would prefer to kill themselves over getting humiliated by the essence of human nature?

If it is all about luck, and you didnt have luck and the world constantly tells you that it is your fault for being such a messed up failure, how could sensitive high conscious people not get crushed by that feeling, and develop mental illnesses and consider suicide.

I just hope that one day I too will overcome my burden( will to survive) and can end my suffering. If I cant be one of the lucky guys why should I give my life to make lucky people happy. I wageslave for them, I make less money so they can have more. I have to feel bad so they can feel superior and better.

That's definitely not worth it. Everyday I wish that I get run over by a truck.
But no even to get a free ticket out of life you have to be one of the lucky ones.
Some people can die already at 25, they never had to feel bad for one day, they never knew what truck hit them.

Other people suffer until they are 89 always having suicidal thoughts but never being able to overcome the survival instinct. That's what I call hell.