Hey Veeky Forums

Actually, specific to your scenario could be FM 3-06. MOUT (Military Operations in Urban Terrain). Published in 2003, from before the trials of Fallujah, but it's what I was trained on and it hasn't changed much. Basically it is SWAT tactics. Stacking on doorways, clearing rooms, settings cordons, etc. Hope that helps.

Now THAT will come in handy, especially if it deals in those narrow corridors and clusters of houses we have in the favelas.

We don't have any manuals for that here at all, so we've just been using common sense and hoping for the best.

I'll give them all a few good reads, thank you.

Just a quick mspaint on room clearing. You probably get this training, but it's good to practice. This is the "glass house" training every soldier receives. Lay out an imaginary structure on the ground, then practice clearing it with a team. Team stacks on the door. #4 man kicks open door. #1 man rushes forward/left, clearing targets. #2 man behind him, rushing forward/right, clearing targets. And so on, until threats are eliminated and the room is clear. Repeat until building is called clear. Aggression and speed takes priority. Sorry if it is basic, but maybe it can save lives.

Two main differences is we would have two men going in at once, their line of sight crossing into an X, and instead of stacking them all together they'd be split in 2 groups, one at each side of the door.

This method seems to be more effective though, less room for error, especially when we are talking about conscripted soldiers.

They all end up in the same position, but the process is slightly overcomplicated

By "This method seems to be more effective" i mean your method.

It is easier to teach too, i'll probably switch to it.

Can I download these from the usual venues (#books, gen.lib etc.)? I'm not an army man, just curious. Especially in this:
>organization of units and projection/support structures within the Army
Do I just look up those titles you posted?

Worked for me, you can usually find these in google, they are open distribution.

Why the fuck are they using manuals from WW2? I know they don't have much money to spend, but surely if they can afford tanks and helicopters than they can afford some more modern books.

Thanks. They are in the public domain? I thought these would be classified or at least hard to obtain. Is it because they are basic and trivial for army personnel with more than basic training? Or is it because they are older versions? Are any of the above in use with the US Army? Not that I mind either way, I don't know the first thing about army organization and tactics.

Never understood why. It's even funnier because we didn't inspire our doctrine in yours, we literally copy pasted and translated into portuguese.

They are public domain, you can't train hundreds of thousands of people and expect it to remain a secret anyway, though some stuff is removed from the public ones, i'm sure.

And no, they are not trivial, and i'm sure you would be able to find newer versions quite easily too. You could say they are all still in use in the US Army, they would be the base of the US Army just as they are in Brazil, ours are just outdated as fuck since we never had the need to modernize.

As an example, here you can download all the Brazillian (American WW2 translated) manuals.

bdex.eb.mil.br/jspui/

Not sure if there's such a site for the US Army, but i could find most of the recommended on google.

archive.org/details/military-manuals

globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/index.html

If you watch room clearing excercise videos on Youtube, there's tons of comments by soldiers that say the American room clearing method is crap and immediately gets thrown out the window the second the enemy is aware of your presence. Lrn2 Israeli room clearing
(I'm by no means anything but an armchair general, but it does seem obvious even to me that the American method works in theory only)

US Military manuals are free and public domain. I went and downloaded rifle and pistol marksmanship training manuals a couple month ago. Use a search engine.

"On Killing" is an interesting book that delves into the psychology of combat, and well, killing. There is some controversy surrounding some of the evidence the author uses but even if some stuff was outright fabricated I still think the book is useful.

In particular it gives a great testimony as to why bayonet charges could possibly work and how they can still be powerful in the modern age.

You'd be foolish if it wasn't noted in some database you were downloading these things though

Storm of Steel for clearing tenches with a club

guides.grc.usmcu.edu/usmcreadinglist

Invisible armies by Max Boot

Pretty much a full history on guerrilla warfare

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Yeh, the carefully crafted scenarios in training are not always applicable in practice. It is theory, but it informs individual decision-making under stress. What is important is drilled on: speed, pushing through, watching your sector of fire, working as a team. Like in small unit maneuvers of assaulting an enemy position, it's never going to be as simple and neat as training and it doesn't have to be. Just being familiar with the essentials and everyone sharing a vocabulary increases survivability.

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youtube.com/watch?v=ZBbIIaW4aWI Read the comments also

That's dumb. The argument boils down to: I'm a pussy and not going to do my job because maybe I'll get shot. If you know a building is occupied by hostiles, you soften it before entry or set a cordon. Fearing "two guys with automatic weapons" trained on your entryway is defeatist. They're well armed... I guess we should leave the bad guy alone!

NO. You blow the door and rush. Walk over them, alligator arm them, knock them on their ass. Do it so quickly they don't have an opportunity to fire. Keep weapon at high ready but you aren't clearing by looking down the sights. You clear by being better equipped, louder, more aggressive, and more determined than the opposition. If you get shot, that's what armor and medics are for. Killing bad guys is not an occupation for doubters.