Is this the definite endpoint of philosophy?
Did anyone ever manage to refute/improve on this?
Is this the definite endpoint of philosophy?
>NEETSHITfag
Grow up, stop being so edgy
Look no further
>brilliant scientist
>insightful philosopher
>scholarly theologian
>redpilled
>10/10 aesthetic
Is Ben Stiller the true ubermensch?
I like you.
That's not how you spell 'I'm 16'
It's definitely underappreciated.
Like The Birth of Tragedy, it's one of Nietzsche's more impenetrable works. That's why everyone sticks to the aphorisms - which superficially appear to be 'easier', but which Nietzsche felt deserved much more attention than meets the eye. In the last part of 'On the Genealogy of Morals' (The Meaning of Ascetic Ideals), he devotes pages and pages to a mere several lines of Zarathustra's words in Thus Spoke Zarathustra.
Moreover, the key to Nietzsche is actually appreciating his musical/artistic aspect. In today's world, and indeed the world of philosophy in general, everything is far too sanitized of anything that does not bend the knee to "logic and reason" - that is to say, music/art/etc. Whereas for Nietzsche, these things were fundamental. Indeed, to the surprise of many, he considered himself an "old musician" above all else.
There are parts of Thus Spoke Zarathustra that are meant to be sung/etc.
>no rebuttal
Hell, the last treatise of the Geneaology is based on the last sentence of the last aphorism of the second treatise: he expanded that sentence into a 50 pages treatise wich avoided spectaculaely every sort of redunance in itself.
>tfw you probably won't ever have that many brilliant things to say
>tfw he wrote it in 1 week
Nietzsche blamed himself as being a defective youth in writing the Birth of Tragedy. He did, on the other hand, call it a "proven book" with respect to what he called "the best minds of the time"... alluding to Schiller in that one who satisfies the minds of the time has indeed lived for all times. The book is thus to abide, to outlive.
In his self-criticism, he comes to conclude that the greatest problem -- that there IS even a problem here -- is that the Greeks remain enigmatic insofar as we know not what is meant by Dionysian. Nietzsche changed the conception of the term throughout his works -- from the symbolization of tendencies of the godly festivals, and as diametrically opposed to the Apollonian, to the declaratory nature of the human spirit in laying stress on life -- the passions -- in the face of suffering.
Why were the Greeks so craving for beauty? Perhaps there was an underlying peculiarity in this relish; a deep-seated pain or melancholy. What then for the opposite craving -- for the ugly? What appealed the older Greeks to the rampant pessimism in tragic myth? The shift of the image from the good to life's dreadful riddle? Is there a secret madness in health?
The endemic youthfulness of the people perhaps did will the severity of pessimism. Nietzsche himself maddened over time, and along came his genius, as he references Plato that madness brings about a blessing upon Greece. Perhaps it was the logicizing of the world later on which engendered a more abundant optimism -- the rationality of a peoples as the first sign, or "symptoms of a decline of strength..."
>still believes Nietzsche was a nihilist.
>It's definitely underappreciated.
thus spoke zarathurstra is probably the most famous work of philosophy from the 19th century you daft cunt. even fucking shaq read it.
I personally find Cioran criticism of Nietzsche vitalism accurate, but this criticism can only be accepted if we accept Cioran general thoughts on life.
Regardless of what Cioran thought of Nietzsche, I take some branches existentialism (the ones that don't fall in nihilism) to be an improvement on Nietzsche's work (and heavily influence by him).
>Reading something means you appreciate it
By that logic I appreciate your shitposts, which I don't.
>nevermind that it also changed the shape of the west as we know it and is studied in every occidental university
go outside
>TSZ is studied in universities
I fucking wish.
Protip: University philosophy curricula are almost entirely Analytic nowadays
>Protip: University philosophy curricula are almost entirely Analytic nowadays
yeah i know, i'm getting my phd in it. if people aren't reading it in the phil department, they're reading him in the sociology and literature departments. he's canonized bud
why do all analytic phil. professors have whining aspie voices and move like robots? Almost all Continental philosophers in the 70s-80s were sexy as fuck. Even Deleuze and his nasty fingernails were getting undergrad pussy. And every picture of Derrida is GQ status.
>Did anyone ever manage to refute/improve on this?
>refute
Hard to do so when Nietzsche does not even care to use arguments.
because analytic philosophers are horrible people. i stay as far away from that shit as possible.
all conties read bataille and want to fuck everything all the time, all anos just want to harass their ta's and show them their shriveled cat dick
John Searle just got kicked for fucking undergrads at 80+. Analytics get it plenty, they just have to barter grades.
>reading German "philosophy"
Lmao. At least have some self respect and stick to Kant.
>At least have some self respect and stick to Leibniz.
fixed for you, pseud
>God did everything
>everything is God
>we have free will but not really
>dude God
>wow, best of all worlds, praise God
>being so frugal as to interpret it this way.
Boring, faggy, limiting. Voltaire is also embarrassing.
the true end point of philosophy is real, capital-C cynicism. everything else is just musing observation
I wasn't being entirely serious. I've read both his Metaphysics and his Monadology several times and his best of all worlds is part of my own personal philosophy. He is definitely one of the more pleasing philosophers to read, but his attributing everything to God does get a little overbearing
Capital-Y Yawn.
He hung around Foucault in the 80s. That's why.
See, you're getting into the spirit of it already!
>Spake.
Literally got BTFO by Kant in the appendix of CPR.