>be david foster wallace >spend your college career reading don delillo >become completely obsessed with questions and anxieties about/over modern american life and television >decide to do that, but without the irony and sarcasm >latch onto the first editor that sniffs you >scumfuck who whores out your ADHD and lets you publish every page you ever wiped your nose on >infinite jest published in 1996 >underworld published in 1997 >an equally long, infinitely better, actual piece of art about the same shit ij is about by the author its indebted to >one year later
It's no wonder he killed himself
Chase Lopez
Wait, don't tell me this is from Underworld. That would biggest the biggest btfo of all time
Juan Rogers
It's from Americana
James Richardson
IJ and Underworld are not about the same things.
Jace Martinez
All American novels post 1955 are about trash and garbage
Connor Robinson
>mfw between DeLillo and McCarthy the whole Baudrillardian parable stchick has been done >mfw DFW tries to do it anyway, and fails
Parker Parker
>Baudrillardian parable
What does this mean user
David Foster
Please explain that term.
Ryder Carter
Essentially the difference between reality as it is and reality as people see it.
Xavier Hughes
He's referring to Baudrillard's theories about the virtual, the virtual virtual and the real. My copy of White Noise had an excerpt from him in the back.
Samuel Allen
it's true
Josiah Reyes
Why the fuck are you underlining every single sentence nigger?
Ian Davis
weak pseudointellectaul reduction of Infinite Jest and Underworld. neither are even slightly about this
Kayden Sanders
Tick tock, tick tock
How much longer can you hide this farce from the clock?
Ryan Green
>MUH CULTURAL CRITIQUE. >MUH WHITE GUY PROBLEMS. >MUH ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION. >WOE IS ME.
Literally every po-mo American author. Prove me wrong.
Julian Reyes
...
Ian Garcia
Underworld has 50 pages that are better than anything in IJ, and 750 pages of bloat, deadweight, and a big gaping hole where intellectual nuance is supposed to go.
IJ and Underworld are not about the same thing, but Underworld and American Pastoral are, and that came out the same year and did absolutely everything better.
Eli Collins
post your best DFW pastas
Lucas Campbell
you know thats DFWs copy of Americana right
Angel Lee
>be david foster wallace >go on and on about "new sincerity" >build entire career and public appearance around trying to show off how smart you are
Jordan Garcia
I'm not talking about Underworld, but IJ s definitely engaging heavily with Baudrillard.
Joseph Collins
this was his struggle. didn't you watch End of the Tour??
Jacob Roberts
i've never seen or read anything where dfw mentions 'new sincerity' though
William Brown
its because DFW is more interested in people just being conversational and being good, dedicated citizens rather than whatever fucking bullshit sentiment people here think he means. Basically he converted Richard Rortys philosophy into literature
Julian Murphy
>he wanted artists to be normies
I'm glad he offed himself
Logan Morales
no he wanted normies to become artists
Ryan Reyes
underworld wouldve been great if it was just the beginning baseball part. rest is so gay
Bentley Thompson
was Lolita what brought this on?
David Gutierrez
bump
Daniel Turner
learn the difference between one writer "engaging" the other and two writers attempting to represent the same circumstances. you have to stop thinking in terms of mechanical, billiard-ball causality if you want to get anywhere with literature.
Hudson Miller
who is Charles Johnson
just because you're a plebe doesn't mean five decades of american lit has nothing to offer.
Jaxon Mitchell
and even more likely to be on your radar: who is fucking E. L. Doctorow. pete's sake
Ethan Lewis
>Basically he converted Richard Rortys philosophy into literature
do you have sources on this? very interested in your thoughts
Colton Thompson
Kek, DFW is incapable of original thought: the best he can do is engage