Does it make you smarter?

Any real life experience?

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I dropped out of highschool out 17 with no math courses, got a script for Dex at 18 and now finishing my masters in aerospace engineering at Stanford, have SpaceX and NASA internships

So yeah it works if you have ADHD like me

How did you know you had adhd?

It doesn't make you "smarter", but it makes you more focused. It also makes you less hungry.

>One review highlighted a nine-month randomized controlled trial of amphetamine treatment for ADHD in children that found an average increase of 4.5 IQ points

I was diagnosed with it as a kid and turned down treatment

I was always smart, just not focused or directed. Drugs gave me the drive to put things floating in my head in motion, and I fucking executed

Me too. My junior year of high school I made a fucking 40 on my algebra. After getting adderall I've made no less than a B+ in all of the math courses I've taken.

were yall guys on the instant release of the extened
i was thinking of getting some but my guy only has xr

I have been trying to not take it for the past two months but I've realized that I'm sort of dependent on it at this point.
Can definitely agree here. Although I feel i'm a brainlet, I have definitely performed 80% better when I was on addy. Was never prescribed though. I took 30 mgs twice a week or something when there were imminent tests.

It works better when you've hardly had any experience in it. I started out with vyvanse but its really bad because it makes you feel depressed to relapse its effects or it just doesn't work well on me because i try to work at night. (vyvanse is supposed to be taken during the day).

just take it for exams, works well from my experience

I was diagnosed back in the 6th or 7th grade with ADHD

I didn't get prescribed anything because my grades were "good"

I literally couldn't focus in class, I just used my intuition most of the time to surf by

Skip to the end of 9th grade

My grades fell, and I was becoming erratic

Got prescribed on Adderall

My GPA went from a 3.5 in Freshmen year (I wasn't really trying and I did not care) to a 4.3 in my Junior year

I finally felt "normal," I guess

It let my mind be clear and I could hear my thoughts precisely.

Did it make me smarter? No. Did it give me more motivation and a greater sense of clarity? Hell yes.

i need this so much, i feel it all the time, cant focus, go eat something, come to 4 chan, etc,. Except if i HAVE to, then i really focus but i cant get to do my personal work (aka not academia courses)

It's literally meth. Of course it makes you smarter

I've been on XR adderall, vyvanse (XR, bound with an amino acid to prevent people from snorting it or some shit like that), and regular instant release adderall.

I'm currently on the instant release. I like it because you can take it has needed, so you don't have to rely on a single pill everyday. I take two per day when I need to, one if I don't have much to do, or none I have nothing whatsoever to do.

Just don't abuse it and become a meth head.

This right here.

yeah ive snorted riddlin before shits cash
i took an adderall xr the day of a test i didnt feel focused at all tho

I took it, math became easier I could give a fuck about my other courses though so those grades didnt change. Got A's in math and science though. When i was first on it i became really anxious like I wanted to punch my teacher in the face and take a worksheet so i could do the problems instead of having him drone on. Literally you cant wait to do shit, you always have to be doing something and are fully engaged. It offers focus on a micro level, so individual tasks you will fly through though you should have your goals set so you can get the most out of it or else your laser focus will go to stupid shit. Focusing in class you do automatically but if you dont do hw you'll still fuck up so dont occupy yourself with videogames for even a second or else 5 hours are going to fly by before you realize what happened. So while it lasts make sure you start on your tasks when you work outside of a classroom.

I've also been prescribed Adderall but I absolutely loath the stuff. Does it help with focus and encourage work ethic? Yes, however, the after effects absolutely suck! You crash and lose all motivation (sometimes even the will to live) and you can't sleep. It's a love/hate relationship.

>ability to sit and fill out forms in order to complete IQ tests
>intelligence
i swear you fuckers are hopeless.

Its because ADHD/ADD kids cant focus for shit on multiple choice tests or any test but mc is the worst, doesn't increase IQ at all.

Adderall doesn't really make you smarter per se, but helps you focus on retaining and organizing information. When taken in moderate dosages (15-20mg) once or twice a week, it can be a great study tool.

However, in the long term, it can really fuck you up. I've been prescribed addy since middle school, which was over 10 years ago, and have taken it almost daily ever since. Even with frequent tolerance breaks, I have trouble doing even basic tasks without it. Tread carefully before you start fucking around with amphetamines. IMHO, it's not even worth touching if you factor in the long term effects.

This is the voice of reason but this guy makes me want to.

Lol I snorted Ritalin before taking the SAT.

Yeah the XR stuff can be subtle, to an extent. But it's like a nicotine patch vs. a cigarette.

>mfw someone interrupts what you're working on/talking about while on adderall

Where did you do you bachelor's?

Community college transfer into Purdue aerospaceo

literally flat-earther tier logic

>my guy only has xr
Just get a prescription.

>It's literally meth

I have no clue how people get addicted to this medicine. I hated taking this medicine in middle and high school. It made me feel like I received a lobotomy and it also made me have existential crises at night

Fuck you flat earth is logical

Would it help me focus on stuff I don't like?

You need to take responsibility when using adderall. You can easily get distracted and start playing a video game for 10 hours straight. It will help you focus on anything you are doing productive or unproductive.

how tho every time i ask the doc they want to refer me to a specialist

Are you going to normal physicians or psychiatrists?

it helps you focus. in other words it helps you apply your intelligence.

most people don't need to get high to study. they just have to learn how to concentrate but they are never taught how to do that.
a fucking monk of all people has a pretty good grasp on the problem.
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usually when i go to my physician i say ive been having trouble concentrating or focusing lately and ask if there is anything they can do to help, they just want to refer me to a specialist regarding that to see if i really need a prescription but ive heard therapist are much more lenient

I would go to a psychiatrist, be vague don't be too direct. Say you're struggling in school can't gather your thoughts etc. Forgetful having a hard time focusing on things and basically act concerned or confused. If they mention adhd just go with it. Act like you haven't really thought about it being a possibility until then. Just make sure you don't end up making them think you're anxious or depressed which they would say is the cause of your attention issues. I am only telling you to avoid being direct because many psychiatrists are hesitant to give college kids prescriptions but I am not sure if that changes if you go to a psychiatrist who isn't based in a college town. Sorry if this was shitty advice. I am in a rush.

Are here any people who microdose on psychedelics?

no it was good thank you user

what are the benefits/effects i have taken psychedelics before they made me think about the many connections between everything in the world

This is powerful but not for everyone. I don't wanna be a gate keeper but I feel like most people should not take this. If your lucky enough to not suffer sleep deprivation or appetite suppressing or any of the anxiety with the come down then it is god tier. Started taking last year grades have gone up, started learning piano, deepeession gone etc. Also landed an 80k/year internship.

hey, thats pretty good

adderal should have a willy wonka logo on it

I got my first prescription for IR during sophomore year of college. First time I took it I felt like God and that anything was possible. Then I abused it on and off for ~2 yrs, and in the long run it didnt help anything. Did a 72 hr binge once and started having very concrete visual hallucinations. Ive done multiple psychedelics and never had hallucinations like that.

If youre responsible it can work wonders. If youre an irresponsible clown like me it can fuck your shit up.

I have only taken it a few times for recreational purposes and I was bouncing off the fucking walls. Hard to believe they give this shit to kids.

doses, dear

Fucks with you if you don't need it. I was told my life would be transformed once I started tAking it 2 years ago at 28.. Nothing major changed, no transformation, but overAll improvement over time is definitely noticable. 30mg XR. I've asked multiple times for IR but fucktard doctor doesn't want me to have them

Anyone have experience with both adderall and ritalin?
How do they compare in your experience?

it gave me the ability to autism out on projects but i have really bad anxiety so i'd end up finishing my work then crying in a corner wondering if was going to die of a heart attack on stims

my grades didn't really see any difference at all but i was just more committed to side projects

Lol what? Do you think marijuana is heroin tier too?

I've tried both concerta (pretty much xr ritalin) and dexedrine (pretty much adderall). I prefer dexedrine much more. Concerta helped me focus but I got really bad anxiety.


Agreed. These are hard drugs and should not be given to kids at all imo. Everyone I've spoken to who has had a bad experience with these meds are people who've been on it since they were kids (white suburban kids who also started doing other drugs at a younger age). I feel like if you want to go this route you should have spent a decent chunk of your life unmedicated and then be able to notice the difference aftewards. That way you will view them as meds and not be a fuckwad who abuses them or sells them.

>they just have to learn how to concentrate
1000% this.
Adderall literally doesn't have any effect if you're disciplined.

Adderall (at least the right-hand isomer) has the same effects as meth. Just a little less potent. Hell, people can even be prescribed meth pills (desoxyn).

Bull fucking shit. Take enough adderall and youre gonna be high as fuck.

No, it doesn't make you smarter. Nor does it have no affect for people who don't need it.

People with ADD or ADHD have fewer dopamine receptors than the average person. It is often mistaken as a pleasure hormone but dopamine is more of the motivation hormone. What amphetamines do is increase the level of dopamine in the brain by slowing the rate at which the brain "reuptakes" or reabsorbs the dopamine it releases.

Adderall doesn't make you smarter, it just helps you focus on and engage with one task at a time without the incessant distractions and procrastination that result in you staying up until at least 2 am every single night because you can't just sit down and write a goddamn one-page paper without spending 10 hours straight shitposting on taiwanese watercoloring forums or pacing around your room and it drives you fucking insane and all you want to do is take a bullet to your lazy, pathetic excuse for a brain and end it all.

Anyway yeah Adderall is pretty helpful.

Amphetamines cause cells to release dopamine. Its not a reuptake inhibitor.

is there any bad side effects of taking adderall? i've been getting unfocused lately, because i might get me a one.

Dopamine is dope bro.

>most people have adhd
no

Where did I say this?

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What's the best way to learn to concentrate without drugs?

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i wonder what effects it has if you're doing something constantly but with someone you're comfortable with, meaning no anxiety, like a project or something.

I abused it for three weeks to keep me running during stressful times (30mg/day when I only need 15), now I've been taking a break for 9 days and still feel like shit. Am I fucked for life?

indeed but amphetamines overall lack the neurotoxicity of meth in the doses prescribed

no, just for the month

I hope so. Sure doesn't feel like it.


It helped my GPA immensely, but holy shit, never ever take more than what you are prescribed. Never redose. It might seem like a good idea at the time, but you WILL deeply regret it later.
It's just borrowed energy, and sooner or later you will have to pay back. With interest.

ye man just relax this month, dont do shit if you dont have to, if u get lazy by the end of the month, take one pill and start doing something, then back to the usual i suppose

Wanted to ask the same question. It sounds too good.

Dropped out once, now I'm doing a PhD in CS thanks to ritalin. Really fucking wish I found out I had ADHD when I was a kid instead of at the tender age of 25, but at least I found out and turned my life around.

What language is this?

is purdue’s masters A&A program good? i just got accepted

live fast die hard maybe

English you swarthy nigger

this thread really REALLY made me want to try it, I've never actually done any kind of drugs before

I'm way too autismal to actually talk to a psychiatrist or doctor or whatever though, it would be a situation where we both know what I'm after but have to beat around the bush and ultimately it rests on my speaking/social skills, which I have none of.

FREAKING JUNKIES ENJOY ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION

I was on this for ADD during my early 20s
it worked but for the first week or so I would occasionally not be able to move or do anything for a bit
like I wasn't paralyzed, I just lost all drive and flow to my motion and stayed where I was, and my thoughts basically stopped
thankfully it went away and I switched to a different medication a few years later, but ever since that I haven't really trusted adderall

this will sound either weird or obvious, but practice
you can create environments with varying degrees and types of distraction and then set yourself to focus on something less interesting or attention-getting
with time you'll get better, it may take a long time but it's very doable
I'd recommend printing out a math worksheet or getting a writing prompt, putting on a video of something you like but aren't totally fascinated by, and then working on what you've set before you while in the same room as the video, and trying to spend as little time as possible watching the video, and trying to avoid listening to it too because that'll also sidetrack you
source: I grew up with a mentally disabled sister who would scream about random shit at random times, and it made me really good at ignoring things in the background

But, user, Adderall gives me raging hard boners that last for hours!

Of course. First, tolerance. You start taking it everyday because it works so well. Then after some time (you dont even think about time anymore) you realize you need it to get out of the bed, and that you're slowly dropping to levels where you were before taking addy.

Then, if you're stupid enough, you start upping the dose. Fuck it, it still works, so it must be good. You keep at it for a few more months, maybe a year, whatever. You dont stop because - why the hell would you? This shit is great.

If you're lucky enough not to have upped your doses so far to get a psychosis, you'll just end up with a massive tolerance and either run out, or figure out you need a break. That's where the circus begins.

You can't get out of the bed. You don't wanna get out of the bed. Your mind is foggy, your head hurts. Youre tired like youve never been before. You dont even know why youre alive. You dont wanna get up and face the day. You just want to disappear. Or to get something that will clear this shit up. Maybe some more addy.........

...at this point you either start to become a full blown speedhead, or you stop completely and realize that youve done it the wrong way the whole time, push through the withdrawals until you start feeling normal again and learn o respect the Amphs.

How do I know if I have ADHD?

>literally ... logic
yes, and?

>lmao all stimulants are basically meth guys!
>that coffee? you might as well smoke some crystal loL!
kill yourself

I had to write a research paper on study drug use and how it affects college kids. To sum it up, it's pretty bad for you, works, and users unknowingly build a strong dependency.

ADD and AE faggot here, don't NASA and SpaceX check for drug use during applications?

I've gained more mental clarity from benzodiazepines than from amphetamines, having long prescriptions on both.

It's a matter of what helps you clear the noise in your head, not what makes you smarter. If you like hyperfocusing and missing the bigger-picture, but over-performing, then yeah it'll help you be productive in your sense of the word. If you're prone to mental friction and anxiety, no it probably will not.

Quality thread 15/10 thanks for making a thread about it instead of just googling it and finding all sorts of reference material.

christ what a nightmare

dubs and I try to get some before this semester is over

>gained mental clarity
>benzodiazepines
there are multiple studies that show they make you stupid from long term abuse mon frere

Speaking from experience?

I drink coffee only like once a month so it feels very similar to taking amphetamines (for me)