Reddit is unironically better than 4chin now

>As an English teacher, I think a lot of what we are forced to teach sucks and is only put on curriculum because the adults writing it enjoy them. I would rather teach contemporary young-adult fiction to my students because I think it's more important that kids enjoy reading rather than going through a checklist of what is considered to be "classics." Nobody gives a shit in the real world if you've read Ethan Frome and Great Expectations, but people do care that you are literate, which is a skill kids only develop when they actually do the assigned reading because they enjoy it.

this is the type of retard teaching english. the type of mongoloid that thinks highschool level english classes are to teach you to be LITERATE. not critical thinking, not philosophy, not worldview. simply LITERACY. in high school.

american education really is dogshit tier.

If you search Veeky Forums on r/books you find worship threads that admit you can get better reading material and discussion buried under trash, and that the upvote mechanic ruins discussions

So what I took from this is that Ethan Frome is a pleb filter

you won't get any disagreements from americans when accused of this. we wish for a reform more than anyone else, i assure you.

>you won't get any disagreements from americans when accused of this
oh I know, I'm an American myself. our education system is awful

Veeky Forums is full of bitter, miserable pseuds and it's still better.

The trouble is that students are meant to be literate by high school but largely aren't. I remember absolutely no discussion about the actual material we were reading in high school, just being told what to write to get marked well.

nah

is dont think droll means what you think it means

Theres literally nothing wrong with /pol/.

its a "schools should parent our children" episode.
parents reeponsibility to teach children to enjoy reading, people like the guy you are quoting need to stop living in their queer good will hunting daydreams

haha

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i used to make that mistake a lot too. i feel his pain

I think using words you don't know yet is quite simply the greatest way to learn words when you already have a grasp of the language. When someone corrects you, you tend to remember the word, as you have a strongly tied emotion to the word itself and its correct use. Usually shame is a great way to deter incorrect behaviors.

I hate reading about white people

I remember most kids in English class never finished the texts we were assigned. I think getting students to write and to be critical should be the goal. The actual text doesn't matter.

If you get spammed with name-calling and /pol/ memes it means you're a fucking faggot and need to lurk moar.

Ethan Frome was the best book in HS; it only had, like, 90 pages, dumb faggots

If the system has already failed them thitherto, then sure. The real goal should be to have kids pass the need for children's or "young adult" literature by, at the latest, 4th grade, and then give them progressively more difficult literature until high school. At that point they should be able to read and understand the surface information of any text, and high school can begin teaching them to read deeply and analytically.

P.S. Any high school freshman could learn calculus if they were taught competently in primary school

true, but "no child left behind" means intentionally stunting education. funnily enough those policies gave us the current generation of intellectually deprived morons currently flooding the board with pepes

>people don't get the reference
I want newfags and biocunts to leave.

>Usually shame is a great way to deter incorrect behaviors.
this is so true. unfortunately most people can not deal with the pain associated with shame, and so they severly restrict their development

>Everyone is sad. It snows.

The author clearly hasn't read War and Peace.

>hurrdurr Don Quixote attacks windmills

That happens at the beginning of the book! There is so much more happening, including a whole second book! REEEEEEEEE

The social order is built on shame.

Feels like he just read the wikipedia summaries (or made it up from cultural osmosis)

Literally every fucking book in that thread is a high-school reading list book. What a bunch of children.

As far as I'm concerned, Reddit is no different to Veeky Forums or Facebook or any popular news website. It's literally a repeat of the same topics discussed over and over again with a certain type of etiquette. Here, for instance, we do it in a cynical, sarcastic way, which I assume has everything to do with the types of people who "decide" to come to Veeky Forums over the other places (yes, that includes me). It's why all this criticism of Reddit and claims of 't. redditor' misses the point. The main issue we should focus on is the lack of new topics to discuss - an issue affecting most of the internet these days and something driven by the fact we're all boring millennials regardless of whether we use Snapchat or not.

I actually did have a high school teacher who assigned us contemporary YA lit. We did like, 0 actual literary analysis in that class and I ended up failing it because all the work involved were dioramas and putting on plays and I'm no good at that shit. There was not a single written assignment done in that course.

I don't know how she got away with it. I tried to tell people this is an academic preparation course, and we need to follow curriculum, but I only got laughed at, and his one guy threatened to beat me up if I tried to do anything more because he wanted an easy class.

I eventually got another teacher who, on top of being an actual expert on literature, was a total bro and lent me books and stuff. Went I talked to him about the former teacher he said he tried to do something about her too but no one cared. I found out recently he later lost his job because he apparently inappropriately touched a student. I know I have no proof, but I like to think they lied about him to get him out of the way because he was a threat to plebbery.

>plebs think that the highest point of Don Quixote is attacking the windmills, instead of Cervantes burning his rivals' books and shitting on the guy that made an unauthorized sequel of the first part

EVERY TIME!