Controversial government law passes

>Controversial government law passes
>Neckbeard says "We're turning into 1984/Brave New World!"

1984 and Brave New World paint with really, really large strokes, which is why everything can be distilled down into something that fits one or both of their precognitive ideas.

>1984 wasn't supposed to be an instruction manual

Brave New World guys are way more smug and annoying about it because they think they are intellectually (and oddly morally) superior to the 1984 guys. Either way, I hate reddit

That glossy, smooth-lined Pepe looks terrible, OP. The crude drawing is an important part of the Pepe experience.

Most people who say that usually have never read the books. They saw a movie or an Apple commercial and think their fucking Harold Bloom.

This.

>heh, they want to raise taxes. And here I thought 1984 wasn't meant to be an instructional manual.
Later
>The fake news media should be imprisoned!

>news media is soma
>fast food is soma
>sport is soma
>liberalism is soma
But
>dude weed lmao

Islam is Peace
Diversity is Strength
Speech is Hate

I agree. The most valuable elements of the Dystopian writers was their contextualizing then-cryptic political and social ideas and concepts. The entirety of 1984 could have just been terms and definitions like 'doublethink' and nothing of value would have been lost, while Brave New World's opening exposition about the replacement of the human population with a eugenic hierarchy is almost complete nonsense and could be removed entirely just for Mond's speech about John's choosing suffering without muddying Huxley's original point.

We are gradually turning into 1984 though. There was recently a scandal with the CIA using the cameras inside of TVs to spy on you.

The government is literally using telescreens to spy on people.

Turn off the conspiracy theory, /pol/. We don't need your shitpost here.

'Conspiracy theory' in itself is a conspiracy to counteract healthy skepticism of the governments more and more sinister actions.

that's only one small element of 1984 though. The fact that there was a scandal, and that information hasn't been repressed to the point of tacit acceptance of any given draconian policy, means we are NOT approaching 1984

>The government is literally using telescreens to spy on people
This proves Foucault right though, you don't see people saying "le Panopticon was not mean't to be an instruction manual XD" (even though I guess it was)

>approaching
do you know what this word means

well, 1984 is way more well-known than anything Foucault ever wrote

>implying half the world isn't living in a socialist police state nightmare

welcome to the age of the last man

>durr this one thing happened that coincidentally lines up with an element of this story, but literally nothing else that contextualizes that element is happening hurr
Stop cherrypicking parts and pieces of a story and then using that to say THIS IS BECOMING A REALITY. It's intellectually dishonest and you just sound like a pseud

>socialist
Lmao

>This entire thread

The fact you know about it proves its not turning into 1984. In fact, in the information age where government officials can leak while remaining anonymous and there are i-phones recording everything 24/7, its almost like an inverse 1984: the government is being watched constantly.

>The fact you know about it proves its not turning into 1984. In fact, in the information age where government officials can leak while remaining anonymous and there are i-phones recording everything 24/7, its almost like an inverse 1984: the government is being watched constantly.

Wrong. They do it in plain sight because no one will do anything. It's a matter of paradoxical conditioning.

In my opinion, the most accurate vision of the future is Fahrenheitt 451. Man and entertainment/the online world is going to be one and the same very soon, and individuality will pretty much be outlawed.

Pepe is filth in every iteration. Never forget that.

>Compelled speech law passes
>Academic canadian says this is a slippery slope for the Gulags

>anti free speech laws pass
>vast unstoppable govt surveilance is the norm
>news is all lies
>gradually rewriting history, replacing whites with muds, taking down monuments etc.
>endless war

Fucking reddit am i right

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Go outside once in a while.

Kill yourself

>neckbeard
you mean everyone, especially pseud normies

Since when do normies give a shit about their rights being stripped away?

>stupid man says something stupid
>frogposter needs to make a post about it on the literature board of Veeky Forums

when it's fashionable to appear as such

>men forcing themselves onto the boot, instead of the other way around, due to the subconscious erotopolitical desire to be dominated
>actively seeking oppression

Fantastic response, I am now a /pol/tard

You're a faggot pseud

t.Bootlicker

Yeah, there's nothing to worry about really, only like 3/5 of those things are actually happening.

You and I know what's up, we go and mingle with masses of uncaring strangers on busy streets and are comforted with the knowledge that everything is going alright.

Generally they never even read 1984 if they spout that bullshit.

There are people in this thread RIGHT NOW that don't think BNW will be a good thing

We're closer to approaching Mad Max with the way things are going 2bh(climate change, world tensions etc.)

>tfw you remember when you idolised dystopian fiction

You are incredibly retarded if serious
BNW isn't exactly a great future, but Huxley's entire idea was hinged on the question of which lifestyle was really "worse"; it's a lot more redeemable than 1984 which is just intentionally hellish with no subtlety. But then, 1984 was written specifically as political commentary while BNW was genuine science fiction.

>world is more or less rapidly turning into 1984/Brave New World
>stupid frogposter says it isn't just because he dislikes some of the people saying it

It takes some effort to believe we are not in some kind of dystopian timeline.

There are alot of events and trends that seem manufactured, or rather, foreseeable and then allowed for reasons unknown. I know that doesn't approach the level of 1984 or BNW but it is something that you can observe and try and understand without going full tin foil hat.

There are decisions made everyday by governments that dont seem rational. There are concentrations of power and thier exercise of that power is not always mater of public record.

We are not in the darkest timeline clearly. The Cold War didn't go hot. But its hard to say "everything seems to be going the right direction" when you look at the world. There are better outcomes for almost everything that has happened since the end (or start?) WW1.

I feel good for people that feel like everything is generally ok. There are alot of people, not living so comfortably who may not agree. Things could have turned out better at many if not most points in recent history. Syrian War, ISIS, Ukraine, Arab Spring, Iraq, 9/11, Rowanda. Our leaders are not making the best decisions every step the way . Why is that? Incompetence is possible, bit unlikely that that explains everything that happens.

I will conclude this incoherent rambling with one final shot of rum and go outside and hope I pass out in the shade. Good Day.

Pic related. Somehow.

>They saw a movie or an Apple commercial and think their fucking Harold Bloom.

top lel me in a nutshell

>it's a Veeky Forums tries to act smart and ends up looking like a retard episode

>more or less rapidly
Which is it faggot? Care to back up your asinine platitudes? The world is More or Less Rapidly turning into the fucking Matrix - that doesn't mean its worth considering the Matrix movies when discussing social or political development

Hell the world's more or less rapidly turning into Star Wars.

>Our leaders are not making the best decisions every step the way
Protip: It Might Have Been is unfalsifiable garbage and you can't actually back any of your musings up empirically or logically
Either embrace determinism or accept that Free Will generates consequences that cannot change and aren't worth reconsidering aside from contextualizing future consequences. Winging about the past is moronic.

>The fact you know about it proves its not turning into 1984
???
Everyone know about it in 1984.

It's not that crazy of a statement to make, note that I didn't say 'close' but 'closer'

When we get to the point where we can't laugh at the comparison anymore it will be to late to do anything

Rapidly in the sense that you can't change the world so much in a day, but it can be changed drastically in about 100 years such that the people in it may not notice it so much but it's an amazing change for that short a time historically speaking.

>can't understand qualifiers and wants me to give an exact unit of time and rate of change with respect to time of this change
lol

Are you on drugs? What a pointless ascertain

Can't stand that shit, happens all the time. It's what happens when you make something "required reading" in school. Everyone uses and understands the refrences.

>you can't actually back any of your musings up empirically or logically
I backed your mother up empirically and logically last night. Ask her about it. Its all she can talk about now.

Brave New World and 1984 just play off confirmation bias.

They aren't actually helpful.

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