I have a question of morals for you, Veeky Forums.
I go to a top 30 university yet am forced to take out loans to continue my education.
Currently I am in my undergraduate, sadly I don't expect to ever make much money at all, though I do wish to get a Ph.D, eventually.
What would you say to a man, let's suppose a version of myself in the future, who, after wracking up tens of thousands of dollars worth of debt and attaining a Ph.D, then moved to say, Canada, to become a permanent resident and later a citizen, renouncing his citizenship to the U.S and "escaping" those loans in the process?
All loans are taken out in my name only, no one else would have to pay them back.
Has anyone here done this?
I have a question of morals for you, Veeky Forums
Alexander Butler
Grayson Cruz
I would say don't fuck with the bankers unless you have their balls in a vicegrip.
Carson Martin
As far as morality where wealth is concerned, I say do whatever the fuck you want. Avarice and corruption run amok anyhow.
Justin Allen
I've read articles of people that have escaped their grasp before- I should mention that all my loans are federal only.
Thank you, that mirrors my feelings toward the situation. I may not be knowledgeable enough for a full ride, or rich enough for my familial ties to handle it on my behalf, but I don't think that means I should be happy to pay so exorbitantly for an education.
Nathan Jackson
Wait. You're doing a Phd and you won't be able to get a decent salary and repay debts?
What is the point of these 25 years of "education" then?
Jeez, start thinking about a sustainable future instead of betting on getting away with that.
Aiden Bennett
As far as the morality of the situation, well you choose a shitty major and asked money for it.
If you don"t pay back, that's theft.
Now you can try to argue that it was unfair and so on and I do feel sympathy for that. But it is still theft.
You chose to invest, you asked money to do it, it failed. Take some responsibility.
Ryan Butler
>What would you say to a man, let's suppose a version of myself in the future, who, after wracking up tens of thousands of dollars worth of debt and attaining a Ph.D, then moved to say, Canada, to become a permanent resident and later a citizen, renouncing his citizenship to the U.S and "escaping" those loans in the process?
Don't do this. Trust me.
t. did that, now cant go home
Levi Adams
I don't wish to live for temporal successes, nor do I find this country worthy of debt repayal-most especially so in comparison to other lands of the first world. I see no reason to suffer unduly in pursuit of knowledge based upon my place of birth. My undergraduate degree is Classics, yet I have no wish to teach below the university level, and the pursuit of archaeology would again simply carry me out of my own country into the welcoming bosom of that Mediterranean Mother. I have no interest in law, either, and see no reason to not simply gain a position at a small, quaint university in Canada, the United Kingdom, or any other country of similar standing, instead of having the weight of my tuition hang over my head like a Sword of Damocles until I'm likely claimed by the hands of untimely death.
Logan Roberts
He is following the herd, and the herd asay "get a degree!! your value as a human depends on it!!" then when he graduates and falls into the real world everyone will laugh at him for joining the ranks of the overeducated but under experienced and thus underemployed masses.
Oliver Long
WOW ITS ALMOST AS IF THIS COULD BE APPLIED AS A HARSH TRUTH TO SO MANY PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD, I WONDER WHO COULD BENEFIT FROM READING SUCH WORDS