Does anyone else hate the fact they know a language?
All of my thoughts are framed as dialogue - when I think about a topic all I really do is have an imaginary conversation with someone in my head about the topic. I plan out sentences I might say, adjectives I might use, etc etc.
But the problem is that words are all mundane. I didn't invent them, so I only have a clumsy grasp of what they mean. Because I think in English words therefore, all of my thoughts are muddled and slightly ambiguous in their meaning. It would be better if I thought only in a language of my invention, but it still would be partially flawed.
I wish that I could somehow forget every language or method of communication I know - I feel that then my thoughts would at least have the chance of being something higher, something greater than myself. The way my thoughts are pinned to the English language depresses me.
I wish I had never been taught to speak or write as a child, I wonder what my thoughts would have been like.
Eli Hughes
Read Burroughs, specifically his Nova Trilogy
Adrian Perry
>All of my thoughts are framed as dialogue Can you not think without subvocalizing? Is this what it feels like to be a brainlet?
Gabriel Harris
this, but not The Nova Trilogy read The Electronic Revolution and Word Virus
Isaiah Phillips
I'm not sure if subvocalising is the term.
I sort of think as though I was writing one giant stream-of-consciousness paragraph.
Owen Torres
Dude is this why chinks are good at math lmao
Ryder Phillips
No, and neither do you. Nobody who "hates language" even considers such a question. You love language and you know it.
Benjamin Turner
If you didn't know a language your thoughts would be equally framed by something else
Leo Martinez
This
Also, you are so limited in "brainspeak" because you only know one language. Often, my thoughts are indeed like yours, just a monologue of thoughts. But when I'm less focused on the words themselves and more focused on the abstract thoughts or ideas, knowing two languages helps to break down the limits imposed by a language.
As someone fluent in two languages I can tell you how much difference there is than if I only knew one. On my way to becoming fluent in another, and I won't stop there.
Aaron Bennett
Post wasn't clear but I meant it all as a reply to OP
Asher Walker
>Not thinking in visual abstractions
Charles Hughes
Ever see one of Hayao Miyazaki's films? For most of them, the storyboards were created before writing the textual script. If someone can write a feature length film using only pictures, you can train yourself to use new systems of thought.
Eli Hill
>knowing two languages helps to break down the limits imposed by a language wrong >being able to switch between the boxes I'm in lets me think outside the box
Kayden Garcia
>different languages are just collections of interchangeable synonyms
Tyler Watson
Knowing different ways to express the same idea helps you examine your own processes of forming those ideas, like a meditation.
Jayden Clark
Ive never successfully learnt a language before - in primary school when i was forced to learn some French and Latin I did just interpret it as straight synonyms.
How long does it take to learn a language to the point that you aren't just substituting words in like synonyms?
Jaxson Myers
You can notice that the thought comes before the language. Listen to that.
Grayson Lopez
>I wish I had never been taught to speak or write as a child, I wonder what my thoughts would have been like.
look up feral childen and think again boyo
A human without language isn't a noble transcendent savage, they're just basically a mental retard.
Easton Walker
I don't have a straight answer for you.
The process is all about context. Have you ever come across a $5 word in English that you have struggled to learn (even upon looking it up in the dictionary), but eventually understood it over time thanks to seeing it in different contexts? It's similar to that.
Andrew Collins
>theyre basically a mental retard
How could you possible know what they are thinking if they have no language? Maybe there is a noble and transcedent reason they act like retards that they can't explain to you.
Isaac Cook
>being able to switch between the boxes I'm in lets me think outside the box That's logically so, dumbass. A different box is indeed outside the original box.
Leo Hughes
Language is a tool, and wishing away with it would be like a carpenter throwing away his saws and hammers before working with wood.