Who's the Karl Marx of philosophy?

>marxism
>philosophy
just stop

Then what is Marxism? Enlighten us please.

are you implying these guys were charlatans?

a ZOG plot

A plan to destroy /pol/ and Western civilization

this

Are you implying that you've never read Marx?

Nietzsche

Marx wrote political philosophy specifically FOR jews. You will never understand Marx unless you understand that embedded within his writings are esoteric 'signals,' if you will, to other jews regarding how to overthrow the European aristocracy and establish a new order with world jewry at the top.

Another jew mentioned in this thread, Freud, did the same thing. The signals to jewry within Freud's writings aimed to show how to corrupt the European goyim through sexuality and appealing to our base desires, by way of the jewish pseudoscience of psychoanalysis. Make your enemy into an animal and you win.

And both of these plans worked. World jewry quickly went about enacting Marx' plan by using lower ranking jews in proto-democratic bolshevik-style revolutions to unseat the aristocratic order of Europe. And world jewry began, in a concerted effort that continues to this day, to promote perverse sexuality and porn as a way to debase the plebes and further the state of cultural sickness.

This is how they operate. It seems crazy if you're under the impression that jews are normal people like you or I, and if you are unfamiliar with esotericism, but it's absolutely true. The jew is a mentally sick individual with no moral compass; it's only interest lies in destroying the world around him. If you are non-jewish and promoting people like Marx, you are a fool and nothing more.

>a great thinker that immensely influenced and transformed his field
>his work constantly misunderstood and perverted by edgy teenagers and internet autismos who haven't read it in the first place

You aren't wrong, but let's not pretend Nietzsche himself wasn't edgy.

You have to be on the edge to be able to push the boundaries.

Why is leftist philosophy always about how there is no such thing as truth, beauty, or morals, and that they are all constructs? It's especially weird because in the modern day, they complain how we live in a "post-truth era", yet their philosophy would seem to embrace that.

Because it is fundamentally jewish. European art and philosophy strives to achieve and understand those things, so jews corrupt them by promoting the opposite.

But that's literally the opposite of Marxism.

To erode western civilization and indoctrinate impressionable students into their ideology.

It has backfired splendidly though, I can't wait to read academic studies on how the right-wing appropriated post-structuralism so viciously we now associate milk with white nationalism.

These three posts are among stupidest things I've read in a while.

That isn't an argument user.

Because they misunderstand what they're saying, because the belief that morals are relative IS a moral statement and should be interpreted as someone saying that one does not have the power to criticize another's choices in life and you should do what makes you happy. I believe this is implied in their relativism

Milk is a white nationalist element. Whites prefer breasts to ass, and are the group that is capable of drinking milk after reaching adulthood.

its jung

Something prepubescents worship because they hate paying for things and authority

Karl marx is the karl marx of philosophy

Legendary pasta

so conflicted. on the one hand, you seem to be working hard these days and your work effort is commendable

on the other hand, all you do is rant about the jews like an insecure faggot

You getting worried about expulsion #110, Shlomo?

ITT: Mentally retarded pseuds spit /pol/ memes and fall for the party politics spooks.

This is why we need a board separate from this website. /pol/ is shitting all over the discussion here to the point where nobody outside of internet memelords would take us seriously.

Jordan Peterson

not in the slightest

you are making me feel more intelligent tho

so thanks for that i guess

Feeling intelligent does not substitute for being intelligent, and whines do not substitute for discourse. You are an intellectual peasant, and you will fool no one into believing otherwise.

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nah

Marx understood himself as an economist, not a philosopher. He believed in the Enlightenment idea that science would eventually supersede philosophy. Marx dismissed philosophical defenses of socialism as "unscientific" and "utopian." Today most leftists are antifoundationalist and regard any totalizing explanation of society (including Marxism) with suspicion. Piketty is probably the closest thinker to Marx today.

I'd accuse you of being cowards fearful of mature discourse, but I know you're just a couple of small jews trying to allay criticism of your sick kinfolk. The diversion and lies don't work anymore.

>One other circumstance must not be forgotten, namely that, just as everything has become a monopoly, there are also nowadays some branches of industry which prevail over all others, and secure to the nations which especially foster them the command of the market of the world. Thus in the commerce of the world cotton alone has much greater commercial importance than all the other raw materials used in the manufacture of clothing. It is truly ridiculous for the Free Traders to refer to the few specialties in each branch of industry, throwing them into the balance against the product used in everyday consumption, and produced most cheaply in those countries in which manufacture is most highly developed.

>If the Free Traders cannot understand how one nation can grow rich at the expense of another, we need not wonder, since these same gentlemen also refuse to understand how in the same country one class can enrich itself at the expense of another.

>Do not imagine, gentlemen, that in criticising freedom of commerce we have the least intention of defending Protection.

>Moreover, the Protective system is nothing but a means of establishing manufacture upon a large scale in any given country, that is to say, of making it dependent upon the market of the world: and from the moment that dependence upon the market of the world is established, there is more or less dependence upon Free Trade too. Besides this, the Protective system helps to develop free competition within a nation. Hence we see that in countries where the bourgeoisie is beginning to make itself felt as a class, in Germany for example, it makes great efforts to obtain Protective duties. They serve the bourgeoisie as weapons against feudalism and absolute monarchy, as a means for the concentration of its own powers for the realization of Free Trade within the country.

>But, generally speaking, the Protective system in these days is conservative, while the Free Trade system works destructively. It breaks up old nationalities and carries antagonism of proletariat and bourgeoisie to the uttermost point. In a word, the Free Trade system hastens the Social Revolution. In this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, I am in favor of Free Trade.

What did he mean by this?

i am a Big Jew

i think /pol/tards are the saddest of the shitposters.

>what do you mean I'm grounded? you fascist
>but mom, me and my comrades were gonna bother the bourgeoisie today. I bet you didn't even read marx!

kek

This.

Alfred Wallace

>What did he mean by this?
gotta go fast

And for someone to plan such a thing, they would have to have a core philosophy driving them, would they not?

And that core philosophy is called...?

Ok I'm mad. 8/10 Would you dumb fucks understand for a second what post truth fucking is ??

You are the embodiment of it ! Post truth means we are not going to discuss if something is true or not, we are just trying to know who said it, and what essence he belong to. Exemple:

-Trump says something
>OMG he's right MAGA XDXDXD

-jew says something
>Fuck off kike

What is said is pointless at this point, the only thing that matters is the essence.
"leftist" (or actual philosophy) rejects essentialism because it tries to analyse while right wing just want to create moral constructs (religion, nation, family).

Peter Singer.

Kek

Everyone besides retarded anarchofags believes this

More importantly, who's the Karl Marx of Marxism?

Anyone who takes Marx seriously is retarded and should be thrown into a wood chipper.

Saying that morality is relative is a epistemological statement, not a moral one.

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So what if I think burning women at the stake is wrong, and someone else disagrees? What happens?

Marx didn't consider himself utopian? The end ideal of communism is basically Utopia.

Karl Marcks

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I'm not the user but Marx wouldn't be a Utopian since his idea of Communism is not a "ideal" or "aphoristic" one. It's the definitive conclusion, a teleological understading of capitalism on itself. In his writings, Communism is a conclusion and a unescapable destiny, not a ideology.

Marx was basically the end all be all to economics, tho.

Jewishness is a race, not a philosophy

Marx denied his judiasm, lmao. He was p muh anti semetic, lmao

Jesus you pol tards really are full king retarded. I hope you get gullaged.

You can't escape your Jewishness now matter how much you deny it or distance yourself from it, Jews are literally bound by blood to subvert and destroy the white race.

>his idea of Communism is not a "ideal" or "aphoristic" one.
lol

>workers democratically operating their workplaces is "ideal" or "aphoristic"

that's the literal definition of an ideal you fucktard. It's also funny since Marx never made a single mention of that being the definition of communism/socialism.

"seize the means of production"
Worker's co-ops sound like the workers collectively owning the means of production fits the definition of "seize" unless I'm mistaken

The philosophy of Marx is based on Hegel.

>I am very smart!

Hegel

because they arent coming up with theories of truth, but commenting on what history has done to that concept.

if you watch the news today and still believe in positive, unproblematical truth about anything other than hard empirical science, and mathematics, you're deluding yourself with pre-kantian idealism

Marx, Capital, vol. 1, Penguin, p. 344: "Between equal rights, force decides."

the collapse of ethics is the beginning of politics. disabuse yourself of moral thinking and realize, after Zappa, the truth Marxists have always known: We're Only In It For The Money

marxism is a spook
learn about economics child

I agree, religion, nation and family were created by the evil capitalists to enslave the proletariat. This post was very intellectual.