How can retards on this board actually believe that 0.999... = 1? If it was equal to 1, you would just write 1.
Also... math using infinity does not exist, it is all flawed. Calculus is an approximation.
As well... the null set is not a subset of every step. To have no properties is not a property. Vacuous truths do not exist, they are just insanity.
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Is this would this board relies on when they cannot offer a decent counter argument?
>How can retards on this board actually believe that .5 + .5 = 1? If it was equal to 1, you would just write 1.
>If it was equal to 1, you would just write 1
that's indeed the case, you can just write 1
More generally, every nonzero terminating decimal has two equal representations (for example, 8.32 and 8.31999...), a property true of all base representations. The utilitarian preference for the terminating decimal representation contributes to the misconception that it is the only representation. For this and other reasons—such as rigorous proofs relying on non-elementary techniques, properties, or disciplines—mathematics students can find the equality sufficiently counterintuitive that they question or reject it. This has been the subject of several studies in trolls on mathematics education.
1/3+1/3+1/3=1
1/3=0.333...
0.333...+0.333...+0.333...=0.999...
>Vacuous truths do not exist
Yes they do. For example "If OP wasn't a faggot, he would make good threads."
OP, what is 9.999.../10 ?
is it =1 , >1 or
There is no addition going on here. It is a single element.
This is just arbitrarily claimed. There is no reason for this to be the case. 0.999.. is simply close to 1, it does not equal 1.
1/3 does not equal 0.333...
This is not an example of a vacuous truth.
Oh boy. The infinitard is back
Very obviously it is less than 1.
is it more than 0.9 ?
Yes.
Your misunderstanding arises from the fact that you believe infinity is a real thing. The concept inherently states that it does not terminate and therefore it is not a number. There is no such thing as 0.999... numbers are definite. They are not changing.
is
9.999.../10 = 0.999... ?
>1/3 does not equal 0.333...
user
>1/3 does not equal 0.333...
it's just different notation we use to write about the same thing, same as 0.999... and 1 you fucking moron
1/3 = 3/10 + 1/30 = 0.3 + 1/30
= 0.3 + 3/100 + 1/300 = 0.33 + 1/300
= 0.33 + 3/1000 + 1/3000 = 0.333 + 1/3000
= 0.333... + 1/inf = 0.333... + 0 = 0.333...
/thread
I will address your responses when I wake up.
OP why dont you worry about furthering your education or doing something with your knowledge and accepting life for what it is instead of autistic screeching online.
>How can retards on this board actually believe that 0.999... = 1?
it is true by definition.
>If it was equal to 1, you would just write 1.
then 2/1=2 is false because I could just write 2?
Yes, I saged.
>This is just arbitrarily claimed.
Like all of math, yes.
>1/3 does not equal 0.333...
Wrong by definition.
>Your misunderstanding arises from the fact that you believe infinity is a real thing.
If you want to do math outside of ZFC go ahead.
But don't make claims inside of ZFC, while denying ZFC.
You are doing a different mathematics.
So you also believe that 1.000... != 1, right? After all infinity can't exist so it's not a number.
this kills the 0.999...=1 denier
underrrated post
How can retards on this board actually believe that 2 + 2 = 4? If it was actually 4, you would just write 4.
Is eternity ever increasing or is eternity just eternal?
"To P or Not to P?", that is the question.
For whether it is nobler in the mind to have P = NP or to just let it equal to one.
>Is eternity ever increasing or is eternity just eternal?
wolframalpha.com
An unbounded quantity that is greater than every real number.
>0.999... is less than 1
>0.999... is not a number
Pick one retard.
kek
The funny thing is that this retard linked to wolframalpha as evidence in the past yet wolframalpha itself does say that 0.999... repeating is 1.
Incorrect, tapping on zeroes does not change tjethe value of a number. No, most math is derived from real like axioms.
1/3 does not equal 0.333..., it is a flaw in your writing system. 1/3 exists on the number line but it is not 0.333..., that is simply an approximation.
I am claiming all infinity related math is based on false premises and should be treated like the autistic mind jerking it is.
Kys
Here's why:
Let's say 1/3 = 0.333... this is in base 10
1/3 * 3 = 1.
0.333... * 3 = 1
If 0.333... (repeating forever) is equal to 1/3, then 0.333... * 3 = 1. That is how fractions work.
However, 0.333... (if not being used in a fractional sense) is multiplied by 3, it will not be equal to one. 0.333 * 3 = 0.999... which is not equal to one. it is 0.00...1 less than 1.
>No, most math is derived from real like axioms.
It is based on ZFC, brainlet.
>1/3 does not equal 0.333
Wrong by definition.
>1/3 exists on the number line but it is not 0.333...
Wrong by definition.
>that is simply an approximation
Wrong by definition.
>I am claiming all infinity related math is based on false premises and should be treated like the autistic mind jerking it is.
Okay.
You can change the axioms all you want, but you are doing other mathematics unrelated to everything else.
You are essentially redefining terms to fit your needs.
0.999... doesn't actually exist.
Wrong by definition.
I think the idea is that we know it's not equal to one so we find a separate isometry where it is equal to one and use that on our original plane.
Posting an image nullifies your sage.
1 is not 0.99999..
The difference is 0.0...1, the digit 1 comes after an infinite seqence of 0s.
After an infinite sequence..
Oh wait
>it is 0.00...1 less than 1.
anything after "..." can be ignored
0.00...1=0.00...=0
At the end of an endless sequence.would be better said
Wow, they don’t teach you that one in the newfag academy.
Why do meme threads like these always get so many replies, while well thought ones are met with a barrage of insults and dismissals?
Are you all so bored?
I haven't posted in or even read the thread yet. Even then I know you're a complete brainlet, OP. You're completely ignorant of ALL THE RULES OF ANALYSIS. You don't know what LIMITS are, never seen an epsilon or delta in your life. You dont know know what CONVERGENCE or DIVERGENCE mean. You can only think of math in terms of physical counterparts and processes, unaware of the abstractions needed to properly understand the ideas. I've argued with you in maybe 4 other threads ad nauseam and there's nothing more to say besides "You're a mathlet who doesn't know shit".
These threads make me so goddamn mad
What is 0.000...1? Infinite 0s after the decimal place followed by a 1? Then that's just equal to 0 since you will never reach the 1 since there are infinite 0s before it
0 is zero.
1 is one.
0.99999 is somewhere in between.
All of you, fuck off!
There is a difference, obviously, from actual eternity and eternal approximation.
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
0.000....1 is not a real number
0.9999 =/= 9/10+9/100+9/1000... = 0.9... = 1
Explain exactly what you mean by 0.000...1 then. There is no convention of what ... means here
What have you done?
because your whining is so amusing
9/10+9/100+9/1000+.... by definition is equal to
[math]9*\lim_{m\to\infty}\sum_{n=1}^m10^{-n}[/math]
0.0...1 is utterly meaningless in ALL CONTEXTS.
>tfw an user broke... everything.
Are you ? No? Then fuck off you dumb nigger
You responded to
Which is me. Youre so idiotic you can't keep track of your arguments.
>identity math
stupidity, now extra strong
Don't reply to me ever again
>0.0...1 is utterly meaningless in ALL CONTEXTS.
Which is why I asked to define what he means
Why? Can you not respond to my argument that 0.0...1 is meaningless?
To which I said 0.0...1 is not a real number and thus the conversation went. Are you actually autistic? What's your point?
0.9..=1
So what is 1/3 then?
0.000...1 is a real number if by 0.000...1 you mean [math]\lim_{x\to\infty}\frac{1}{x}[/math]
How is 0.000...1 meaningless. Can you not tell that he is trying to say infinite 0s followed by a 1?
>How can retards on this board actually believe that 0.999... = 1? If it was equal to 1, you would just write 1.
How can retards on this board believe that 0.25 = 1/4? If it was equal to 1/4, you would just write 1/4.
Nice try plebs
1/3=3/10+3/100+3/1000+...=0.333...=a
3a=1
No, because 1/4 is 1 divided by 4. 0.25 is the actual number
You are mistaken
If we're defining [math]a=0.0...1=\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{1}{n}[/math] then yeah, a=0. But a lot of these brainlet "0.999...=/=1" claimers try to construct 0.0...1 as some sort of weird infinitesimal... which it is not.
How?
Those are not equal
Refer to just replace all the 3s with 9s. You don't know basic mathematical definitions.
Wrong
Insufferable. You've given up.
>your whining
huh? It was merely a question..
3/10 + 3/100 + 3/1000 + ...
= 3 * sum of (1/10)^n, n from 1 to inf
= 3 * ((1/10)/ 1 - (1/10))
= 3 * (1/10 * 10/9) = 3/9 = 1/3
Not an argument
"Wrong" isn't an argument either. Do you read your responses before hitting send? What part is wrong?
KEK
This part is correct
Don't you guys ever get tired?
1 is 1/1
Extremely. This fucker needs to leave my board.
Ignore baiters and they'll get bored
you can do the same for 0.999...
0.999.. = 9/10 + 9/100 + 9/1000 + ...
= 9 * (1/10 + 1/100 + 1/1000 + ...)
= 9 * sum of (1/10)^n, n from 1 to inf
= 9 * 1/9 = 9/9 = 1
I agree with everything, except the part where 0.999...=1
Then you're being patently illogical. You can't simultaneously think is correct and think is wrong. They are equivalent. 0.9...=1 is a direct result of
Well if it amuses you so much, then by all means go on. Gotta do something for that boredom. I suggest watching a few DONG videos from vsauce. They have some very entertaining sites to kill time.
Here's a couple of examples:
>trying this hard
>I am claiming all infinity related math is based on false premises and should be treated like the autistic mind jerking it is.
So should we throw out anything that we learned based on infinity related math? Like calculus and differential equations? How about the physics that and all technology that stemmed from it? Good idea. I agree, but I think you should go first and get off the internet and trash your computer.
If
0.999 *inf* 999 + 0.000 *inf* 001 = 1
Then call
0.999 *inf* 999 = A
And call
0.000 *inf* 001 = B
A + B = 1
A = 1 - B
Therefore.
A < 1
>0.999 *inf* 999
>0.000 *inf* 001
No such things.
0.999...999 is not a real number
Let 1/9= 0.111...
Multiplying both sides of the equation by 9 will give you:
1=0.999...
>waah stop using infinity where I dont want you to