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RavySnake
RavySnake

Has there ever been a more based popular scientist?

Would he be the first to call out today's "popular scientists" as charlatans if he were still alive?

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Lunatick
Lunatick

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w8t4u
w8t4u

I heard he was a bit of a cunt, but I still really like his books. He wrote them in a way that got you really into it and kept you reading, like he was having a conversation with you.

askme
askme

Sagan was another meme scientist who tricked the government into funding go nowhere projects like SETI and wasting millions of tax dollars.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

SETI is like playing the lottery.
Its a waste of time and money until you win.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

It seems like a fruitless endeavor until you look at the US's welfare program and realize you'd rather set stacks of money on fire than give any more money to welfare queens with filthy litters of inbred mongoloids. As well as crippled, fat, out of work, redneck, conspiracy theorists who are "handicapped."

idontknow
idontknow

Most welfare is given to the elite.
How about you stop spiting the powerless like a fucking coward and stand against state and private power that is at the root of all these problems.

WebTool
WebTool

The people in power come from American families, American schools, and American communities. Society elects these political rejects. I'd blame the unenlightened public that elects them before I blame the lunatics that they let take control.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

He's responsible for the pop scientists of today. Fuck him.
b-but muh nostalgia
Neck yourselves, amerimutts

RumChicken
RumChicken

Neck yourselves, amerimutts
I've tried several times

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

He's responsible for the pop scientists of today.

Only in the sense that he tried to popularize philosophical skepticism. He warned us about people like Tyson and Nye who try to politicise science. Science has no political party.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Would he be the first to call out today's "popular scientists" as charlatans if he were still alive?
Why would he? He said the exact same things.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Examples?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

"if god created the universe who created god?"
"what actually happened was <stuff so obscure its mention on Wikipedia has a note calling for more info>"
"evolution isn't a theory, it's a fact"
"let's assume half of planets are suitable for life and that a tenth of planets with life will host intelligent life eventually"
"wow Kepler really butthurt the Church (please disregard the fact there was no controversy for 70 years and then only one guy got salty)"
"if only we listened to turbo atheists during antiquity, we'd be on Saturn by now"
It's all popsci bullcrap made to sell VHS tapes and make proto-IFLS Scooby Doo fanboys feel like they're astro-projecting into the CMB.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Today's pop scientists like Brian Greene and Michio Kaku are much more knowledgeable than Sagan.

massdebater
massdebater

You listed a bunch of examples with no rebuttals. Seems like you're the butthurt one.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Besides Occam's razor circlejerking, there are differences between a necessarily existing universe and a necessarily existing God who created the universe.
Distances between cities in Egypt were recorded by authorities; no need to pay someone to measure them.
Evolution is a theory.
Life is factually ass-rare.
There was no controversy for 70 years and then only one guy got salty.
Give an uncivilized faggot a fedora; you'll get anything but advancement in math and physics.
Nice job ignoring the rebuttal in the 5th point BTW. Really says a lot about your ass-blasting levels, Reddit "dued im a skeptic let's believe in the many worlds interpretation because parallel universes and sheeit."

Emberfire
Emberfire

Calm down.
please disregard the fact there was no controversy for 70 years and then only one guy got salty
Is not a rebuttal. You mentioned no names, no actual situation. Slow down and do your own research. I'm not asking that you cite sources because I have the time to fact check. I do ask that you flesh out your rebuttals to at least mention specifics.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

a jew calling out a nigger, ever.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Carl Sagan practiced Judaism

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

It was Coppernicus, not Kepler btw. Anyway, 15 seconds on Wikipedia and a subtraction.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Copernicus#Controversy
It has been much debated why it was not until six decades after the publication of De revolutionibus that the Catholic Church took any official action against it, even the efforts of Tolosani going unheeded.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Sagan was in fact not wrong about there being a controversy. It seems as though you're arguing semantics and presentation over facts. It's not misguided to question, but it's shortsighted in that it doesn't disprove Sagan's assertions.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Sagan was in fact not wrong about there being a controversy.
He was in the fact he did everything to exaggerate its relevance, knowing the average Looney Tunes autist wouldn't check the sources. It's literally the same as saying there's no scientific consensus about climate change because some studies found a negative correlation.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

The relevance of the Catholic church, particularly in that time, cannot be understated.

viagrandad
viagrandad

"if only we listened to turbo atheists during antiquity, we'd be on Saturn by now"
the greatest minds and works of the pre-Christian era
turbo atheists
If you don't feel any kind of loss over the destruction of the Great Library then you literally have no soul.

JunkTop
JunkTop

SETI is like playing the lottery.

If you are in favor of SETI, that was not a good argument to make.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Stronger rope.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Sagan introduced me to the world of astronomy. Love him.

Nojokur
Nojokur

you realize atheist jews still identify as jews, right?
still a better use of tax dollars than welfare or military spending

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

I was referring to his episode on proto-materialistic movements, not his first episode with the Eratosthenes segment. Examining scientific data and theories is interesting; imagining how closer to outer singularity we'd be if everyone thought like X isn't.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

You needn't go far to say something to an alien. Ever seen Men In Black ?

StonedTime
StonedTime

Carl Sagan did not identify as a Jew. He identified as agnostic.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Yes, and I can't believe people like him, gloss over the fact, that natural selection alone cannot explain the whole of evolution.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

natural selection alone cannot explain the whole of evolution
what are mutations?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Not only mutations but you have founder and catastrophe effects; Disaster strikes and some lucky minor offshoot of a larger population is left. Future descendants are heir to peculiar phenotype that wouldn't spread in the original distribution of population.

Not to mention God is a far worse answer than evolution. How do you pare the infinity of possible psychologies and possible believer-worshipper reward mechanisms...to a single definitive entity?

5mileys
5mileys

i remember really liking the way he strings words together, so satisfying to listen to.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

SETI is a waste of money until you attract the attention of a galactic civilization that wants to turn you into pets or lunch or ashes

StonedTime
StonedTime

REEEEE INTEREST IN SCIENCE IS BAD
REE ONLY I SHOULD DECIDE WHO GETS TO ENJOY SCIENCE
EVERYTHING IS POPSCI
I hope your existence is one of perpetual agony

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Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

America isnt a direct democracy.
Implying welfare is a waste of money because a non majority group benefits from it.
Not realizing the overwhelming majority of state aid goes to the wealthy.

Stop posting on Veeky Forums and go read a book. Seriously, you dont even understand how your own government is structured, or the quantitative facts of its operations.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

The hardline answer is simply "god is unknowable"

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

As well as crippled, fat, out of work, redneck, conspiracy theorists who are "handicapped."

Did I hit too close to home? :^)

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