>no valid explanation existed for why objects stopped moving over time before newtonian mechanics >people literally thought that rocks were sentient and got tired over time as they stopped rolling down a hill
jesus christ. if it weren't for this guy would we still be thinking like this? you're telling me the gap between aristotle and newton wasn't touched by ANYONE regarding mechanical motion? humanity really is fucked if we don't properly cultivate geniuses. How did nobody stop to think about how forces could be involved? is the idea that objects stay in motion unless acted upon so odd? that the ground acted upon said rocks via friction?
Why do most people fail to let go of their intuition for a more tangible insight?
I don't know what it's called but I remember hearing or reading somewhere that our primitive brains have built-in theories to describe how the world works and the idea that inanimate objects were drawn to a location it was destined for is something we were "born with" and this is how we would think if it weren't for some people being curious enough to actually test these preconceived predictions. I think this is probably why statistics and probability seem so counterintuitive as well. As primates we just needed some basic understanding of what was around us so we could interact with the world and make basic predictions of the consequences of our actions. We didn't need to know the actual truth behind these phenomenon because you could get food just as easily with these more basic viewpoints of the world.
Jacob Cruz
because you don't know taht much of history
Noah Watson
>never heard of Galileo, Archimedes, etc etc etc
Zachary Johnson
they explained the paths objects took but not why.
Hunter James
there are many assumptions we are making today that will be equally ridiculous in the future
Cooper Cooper
I'm not sure about the "equally".
Angel Nguyen
I think we'll look pretty stupid when we realize all the string theory shit was wrong.
Asher Williams
Who says he is right?
Leo Adams
>is the idea that objects stay in motion unless acted upon so odd
It's not and Newton didn't even come up with it. It was a much older Scholastic idea.
Justin Martinez
>people literally thought that rocks were sentient and got tired over time as they stopped rolling down a hill I really doubt this. Everyone has an intuitive understanding of how falling things behave. It's when natural philosophers tried to introduce an explanation and fit that into a larger scheme that stuff started to get wonky. They just either didn't have a mathematical description of it, or mistaken ones.
Cameron Watson
>humanity really is fucked if we don't properly cultivate geniuses Unless superintelligent AI is successfully built
Spacetime seems like the much more obvious bullshit-theory.
Matthew Murphy
But we're not heavily invested in string theory currently. It's not the prevailing theory.
Jordan Rogers
They thought force was proportional to velocity, not acceleration, an idea going back to Aristotle. It makes sense if you forget that friction is also a force. Newton's insight was to realise that forces in the cosmos were the same as those on earth, which could only be realised post-kepler once goofiness like epicycles had been removed from the astronomy of Ptolemy, Copernicus etc
Robert Young
Force and momentum are still related to each other, and people to this day still confuse them
Carter Wood
Medieval mechanics were pretty sophisticated, and they made some sophisticated mills that functioned on water and animal power. Not to mention siege machines, locks, doors, elevators. So if you count kinematics as mechanical motion, a lot of research was done. They were just lacking the kinetics.
Henry Russell
There was a valid explanation, Aristotles just believed there was no real vaccum in physical reality, which is true anyway.
It's ridiculous to see people thinking ancient cities could build ships and cars, and not know about friction and drag.
Ethan Wood
brainlet detected
Jacob Clark
Geniuses are usually white cis men, so cultivating geniuses is just a codeword for granting white people more privileges. We should focus on troubled minorities who have hard time finishing school and have to struggle with algebra or geometry (which were proven racist and not inclusive enough), and not some wealthy white pricks doing their elitist inventions
Chase Long
Force is the derivate of momentum. Momentum changes by a rate of its force, so they're a little more than "related" I would say.
Bentley Bailey
gravity doesn't even exist
Jace Myers
What do you call the attractive force between masses?
Jordan Gomez
fat acceptance progressing towards it's logical conclusion.
Thomas Peterson
Aristotle wasn't that dense, it all came to a geocentric model, were the earth was some sort of vacuum that pulled shit to it's core.
Caleb Rodriguez
>tl;dr inheritance of ideas and thoughts Oh wow gollee gee it sure is amazing that humans are born with ideas and thoughts about the function of the world before they even experience it. My goodness if only we inherited language skills
Jace Richardson
If it wasn't Newton it would have been someone else who discovered these laws.
Austin Jenkins
>what is Galileo's inclined plane >what is Descartes' principle of conservation of motion "If I have seen further it is by standing on ye sholders of Giants."
Jace Long
Everyone in the past said the same thing as you
Ethan Murphy
>why were people so dumb hundreds of years ago >if i was born then, I would have figured all this stuff out easily
Easton Young
there was aristotelic physics i think. If im not mestaken the greek thought that to keep an object in motion it should have some force applied all the time.
Mason Young
rocks are sentient. newton didnt know what gravity is, just the effect
James Russell
ebony magazine is at a different url
Leo Perez
isn't everything we observe just an effect?
Michael King
People didn't think that rocks intelligently moved around, they knew forces were involved, they just didn't understand them. They were still throwing rocks to hunt and fight.
Nolan Martin
I don't think so. Medieval engineers used algebra and predict the trajectories of catapults and other siege weapons.
People knew practical physics and understood concepts like gravity, momentum, ect they just didn't have a unified theory.
Christian Howard
This. The closest thing to what OP alludes to is varying forms of animism. Which were definitely present thousands of years ago, often alongside polytheism. But this was a matter of worldview, of the essence and meaning of things in the world, they didn't think they were sentient.
Easton Moore
Everything that is moving is not really moving
William Barnes
if i wave my hand back and forth and flex my bicep, are they not moving? my muscles move, the blood in my veins move, but for some reason people didn't understand why for thousands of years. was energy not mathematically defined then?
Ethan Russell
It moves based on your point of reference but the world is in fact frozen and the localized phenomenon you described is void from a cosmic or quantum point of reference
Oliver Mitchell
>>people literally thought that rocks were sentient and got tired over time as they stopped rolling down a hill That's not what they thought, ye brainlet.