Is math a human invention?

# Is math a human invention?

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**biblegateway.com**

No.

No, math has boundaries, therefore it is not invented

No, math exists in a platonic realm and can only be discovered.

Axioms are invented. Consequences and implications are discovered.

No, humans are a math invention.

Yes. There's no way for us to know that we are viewing/measuring reality as it is and not as it appears to us.

Holy fuck finally someone posts this.

This is unironically correct.

This

Holy fuck finally someone agrees with my retarded belief

Congratulations?

The question sounds flawed. We should firstly investigate if it is valid.

Thus: what is an invention?

I recently noted that refinement is at least slghtly closer to the truth. But I don't feel satisfied by that.

I agree.

Little addition: what exactly is math in regards of the question?

I think on "human" we can all agree, though it reaches a bit into the realm on "invention"

mathematics is the language we use to describe the things around us.

*quantify the things around us

Yes. Any mathematician worth their salt would say the same.

yep and a very weak one at that. math goes to shit after 1=1=1

can you elaborate what you mean by platonic realm

(not trolling)

Is math a human invention?

Nope, it's just counting shit around us. It's an invention in terms of complex thought I guess

platonic realm

wat

Only up to the axioms you assume. Which we pick to get the results we desire.

Mathematical platonism just means you believe in the existence of mathematical objects as real objective things we study, rather than some fictional construction of our minds.

Yes

A wakandian invention

Yes, "maths" is a human invention, but we invented something stronger than we could grasp

implying an intelligent species outside of earth would use the exact same math as us

no, its invented. And other civilisations have (if they exist) invented their own language -- equivalent to our math

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laughable

for example, the existence of 2 objects that we can directly coorelate to a mathematical representation.

their own language -- equivalent to our math

There's a difference between Mathematics vs. the superficial culture specific approaches to working with it.

The "equivalency" you're referring to is actual Mathematics. The language details aren't important, the actual stuff underlying the language mapping is discovered.

Intrinsic aspects of mathematics are present, best examples which is always given in first encounter media is prime number sequences and the fibonnaci sequence.

Humans can't invent anything, only discover.

baahahahahaahaha this is such a retarded belief

The Bible and Shakespeare were both retarded

Nah, I think it's more likely you're just retarded.**biblegateway.com**

using the bible in an argument about anything besides theology/philosophy

/out/

math is inherent in the universe

notation is invented

What else, other than humans, uses it?

i would even argue that all potential axioms exist and are just waiting to be discovered

math

having anything to do with reality

I think the mere existence of the pi number show us that math is actually an invention, a human craft as a tool to understand the nature and to put some standars for engineering applications.

Why is so hard to accept that?

Me too.

because it's wrong and retarded

all of these fucking Platonists

Pretty disappointed in this board right now desu senpai

physicists are not welcome on this board, buddy

You should unironically kill yourself.

How about the complex numbers and the C set ?

i2=-1 is conterintuitive unless you "imagine" a world where it could exist.

We will be laughing in our graves when you discover multi-verse.

...as opposed to what other kind of invention?

What's the difference? What does "real objective existence" even mean?

Of course, mathematics is just a language lol.

totally this

No, its a Jewish invention

Fuck off