Is he smart or not?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Is it hard to make a rocket like this? Someone smart cannot be that stupid?

foxnews.com/science/2018/03/26/self-taught-rocket-maker-shoots-himself-1875-feet-to-prove-earth-is-flat.html

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foxnews.com/science/2018/03/26/self-taught-rocket-maker-shoots-himself-1875-feet-to-prove-earth-is-flat.html
youtube.com/watch?v=RtU_mdL2vBM
youtube.com/watch?v=9-bGJ_RMQ6U
youtube.com/watch?v=JgY8zNZ35uw

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Planes go much higher than that.
Couldn't he just skydive out of a plane or something?
that would be 12,000 feet

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Couldn't he just skydive out of a plane or something?

I assume he hoped to end up in space?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

I really hope he could see the curvature, and didn't pass out or wasn't turning over constantly. Shooting yourself with a rocket is the easiest way to prove the earth isn't flat. Can you imagine people actually had to go to the beach just for that, hahahaha.

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CodeBuns
CodeBuns

1875 feet with a rocket is pathetic, how is that supposed to prove anything?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

It was steam powered. Not rocket fuel. If that matters.

Supergrass
Supergrass

I know, it was basically a bottle rocket.

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Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

He's smart with his intense rocket building skills. He could've easily died. I wonder if he still thinks the Earth is flat.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

What have you done with your life besides post on a fake science image board created for idiots to mentally masturbate all over?

cum2soon
cum2soon

I think balloons might've been easier.

takes2long
takes2long

everything you can imagine, and more

idontknow
idontknow

^ (I still wonder if flat-earthism isn't some sort of government run program)

Playboyize
Playboyize

He could have just climbed that mountain in the background.

Methshot
Methshot

Seriously there has to be some easier ways for the average one guy to test whether the Earth is round or not. Pic is one method I can think of.

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StonedTime
StonedTime

People routinely build aircraft in their garages that can fly much higher than that. My uncle built a Kitfox similar to picture related. Some people even build small jets.

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DeathDog
DeathDog

I have heard of that theory as well; that modern day flat-earthism is an experiment to see just how many stupidly contrarian people there are. Or alternatively, to shit up conspiracy discussions to keep them from stumbling on to the truth.

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BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Jets
How the fuck ? I assume you'd just buy the whole jet engine and attach it to a frame you made.
There's no way you would make a turbine and it's casing with garage-tier tools

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I think the theory is pretty plausible.
I've always had the inkling that people like Alex Jones were paid/forced by the government to make conspiracy theories look ridiculously hard to believe, so most people wouldn't entertain the idea.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Yes, you buy the engine, and put it into the rest of the plane that you assembled. There are companies (like Viper Aircraft) that will sell you a kit to make the aircraft the designed.

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Stupidasole
Stupidasole

The point of this launch wasn't to prove flat earth. It's part of an ongoing rocket research program hughes is carrying out. His eventual goal, yes, is to prove flat earth, but even he knows his current rockets can't go high enough to do that yet.

For people wondering "why not a plane" there's flat earthers who believe the windows in airplanes are screens showing false images or the whole thing is a government hypnosis psyop.

Nojokur
Nojokur

He's literally financing his daredevil dreams by using schizos. Definitely not stupid.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

For people wondering "why not a plane"
There's bigger questions then just that. Out of all of the ways to show that the Earth is flat/round, trying to photograph the curvature is one of the most awkward and difficult. Almost any other approach would be better.

cum2soon
cum2soon

well then he must be really stupid, yet smart enough to build a rocket....something's fucky

takes2long
takes2long

it would be kinda funny to counter-argue flatheads that way. just double down on the conspiracy

askme
askme

Launching yourself in a steam rocket does sound fun

Inmate
Inmate

Alex Jones
Alex is the greatest con-man that has ever graced the loonies.
nurture paranoia in every way possible
use any attempt at counter-arguments as a confirmation said paranoia
sell his own brand of "non-gay" water, health supplements and tin foil
make money of loonies
laugh all the way to the bank

Hell, i even admire him a bit

likme
likme

be smart man
want to launch myself in a rocket for fun
too poor
crowd funding doesn't work
THE EARTH IS FLAT IMMA PROOF IT
crowd funding now works

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Oh thats simple. They just need to ask themself: "why would a goverment or any global organisation like the UN spend literally trillions just to keep people from knowing this? Whats to gain? Nothing. Boom, all flat-earthers defeated, just like that.

Skullbone
Skullbone

pilots
anyone with a ship that can sail the open seas
researches in the arctic
tourists
any number of space launch providers
any number of space-related industries

and so on would have to be in on it. for several hundred years. for some reason. but its probably the globalist jew-lizards or something. its allways them

Evilember
Evilember

Alex Jones
Its plain obvious he is controlled opposition. Hell, thats essentially what he pleaded during his child custody legalities 'he is only a performance artist and is playing a character'. Not to mention that infowars is extremely picky on the topics they touch and how they are covered... seemingly the main focus of the site is to polarize population groups, divide and conquer all the way...
...not to mention that portion of the stories are straight up /x/-tier bullshit.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Even simpler is to visit an observatory and look at the round objects in the night sky with your own eyes... or if you dont trust big complicated machines just buy a 12" Dobsonian and look yourself, you can even dismantle it and inspect the device if you dont trust lenses and mirrors.

The whole flat-earth memery is so far beyond retarded that it is 100% a murrican psyop, i live in northern europe and i have never even heard of a person who believes in it.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

100% a murrican psyop
Its not like it started and was led by British people...

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

It's probably hard but that doesn't mean he's smart, engineers build stuff all the time. Thinking that the earth is flat + injuring yourself trying to prove it shows you have no analytical skills at all

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

The whole flat-earth memery is so far beyond retarded that it is 100% a murrican psyop
Nah. I think it's just people wanting to be contrarian and feel like they're in on something important. They don't care about how stupid it is because they're not interested in the actual shape of the Earth.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Its not like it started and was led by British people...
Might be, i honestly dont care enough to google any solid information about the movement. But even then it makes literally 0 difference, the governing powers in modern west are more or less identical plutocracies with similar agendas and they all bow down to same gods; the central banks. US & UK are only the worst offenders.

Lunatick
Lunatick

No he's clearly retarded. He goes and builds this deathtrap of a steam rocket that could have easily killed him when he could very easily could have booked a short flight on an actual airplane that files at 20,000-30,000ft and have seen the curvature no problem.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Ok, Alex. Nice of you to join us at least

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Just go inside a balloon and go up high enough.
Bring also an oxygen tank due to low oxygen /air pressure above.

TechHater
TechHater

Why didn't the retard just put a camera on his rocket instead of launching himself with it?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

He doesn't believe cameras

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Then why didn't he put a parachute on his rocket?

Nojokur
Nojokur

While I applaud people who want to do secondary science in order to ensure previous experiments have valid results, this just isn't the way to do that.

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Supergrass
Supergrass

The rocket had 2 parachutes I think.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

You guys do realize that this whole anti-science thing in the west is being drummed up by the Russians and Chinese right? It is typical bullshit to help cause instability in government. Merely 1 of many many steps.

girlDog
girlDog

this graphic doesn't prove anything.

Eratosthenes', the largest contributor to the shadow/stick experiments at around 500 miles, can also prove a flat plane. He also placed the sun at 4000 miles and the moon at 480 miles above the earth.

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viagrandad
viagrandad

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happy_sad
happy_sad

not true, uk, indonesia, and australia have a lot of participants.

w8t4u
w8t4u

^ (I still wonder if flat-earthism isn't some sort of government run program
I also think that it's a
PsyOP

Skullbone
Skullbone

Every cgi simulation would prove you wrong.

Evilember
Evilember

Could be, but he could also just be crazy. Schizophrenics seem rational until you touch on their core malfunction.

Originally, I thought the TimeCube guy was a brilliant and hilarious performance artist/griefer. The truth was so much more depressing.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

It's just the next step of "evolution" of la creatura.

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FastChef
FastChef

He just wants attention. Flat Earth is a PsyOP to associate with moon landing deniers and sink it. Virtually nobody believed it and now it's being memed. UFO theories are also fake, mere crowd instruments.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

This is the truth of the matter

Lunatick
Lunatick

You guys do realize that this whole anti-science thing in the west is being drummed up by the Russians and Chinese right?
Oh, so Chinese and Russians actually own all western mainstream media, corporations and education institutes and aggressively push for multiculturalism/mass immigration and fund the globalist billionaires driving for the same goals through NGO's and various 'philanthropic' funds and charities?

Wow, enlightening, finally i have achieved complete understanding.

Inmate
Inmate

there's flat earthers who believe the windows in airplanes are screens showing false images
You can open windows.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

The shills are out to play today. The earth is flat and I find it hilarious to watch these desperately fallacious attempts to discredit it.

If you don't think the earth is flat then you haven't tried to debunk it.

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StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

This poster is part of a psyop to discredit the flat earth and UFO truth. Fuck off shill.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

hitting it hard huh? any moron who believes your shit deserves all the ridicule he will get.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Kek, your desperation entertains me globecuck. Your pseudo-scientific model is dying an ugly death.

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kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

youtube.com/watch?v=RtU_mdL2vBM

b-but it's all fake
years and years of space streams
all faked
tens of thousands of people keeping it all a secret
HAH

hairygrape
hairygrape

Seems legit in all honesty

Snarelure
Snarelure

You have to be smart to build rockets.
It's probably the simplest device possible. Getting yourself 1875 feet in the air with a rocket can be done by any fucking idiot. Kids build rockets in cub scouts.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

can't into search
youtube.com/watch?v=9-bGJ_RMQ6U

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Dreamworx
Dreamworx

You're fooled by the fisheye lens? Of course you are.

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Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

are you stupid? did you forget how retarded your flatearth model would look like from space?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

are you stupid? did you forget how retarded your flatearth model would look like from space?

What are you even trying to say here brainlet?

hairygrape
hairygrape

moron doesn't even know what his own model would mean with ISS orbiting at about 250 miles
hah, funny stuff

Methnerd
Methnerd

Brainlet doesn't understand the ISS isn't orbiting anything (there's no one in it).

Brainlet thinks it's travelling 17,000mph

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

brainlet likes spouting brainlet again and again

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Thats dope famalama, how much for one them bad boys

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

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CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Have you considered that space agencies don't use fisheye to try to trick you, but to capture an image with the largest field of view possible? Can you find someone from NASA claiming that these photos serve as definitive proof of Earth's curvature because the surface appears curved in them?

DeathDog
DeathDog

Globecuck thinks he's spinning 1000mph on a ball that's travelling 66,600mph around the sun, and the sun is travelling 500,000mph around the galaxy, and the galaxy is travelling 1.5 million mph

Learn some physics kid. Oh wait, that's what they teach you in physics? What a load of fucking brainlets.

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eGremlin
eGremlin

Why don't you tell that to the globalists using it as proof of curvature?

JunkTop
JunkTop

moron doesn't even understand what inertia is
don't talk about physics, please, it's cringy as fuck

Illusionz
Illusionz

thinks inertia explains everything away

Did Bill Nye teach you that?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Because I don't care what they think.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

The main reason the Flat Earth model has gained so much traction lately is because of retards who post fish-eyed images of the horizon or stuff from space probes to try and rubbish it. The Flat Earth model is an exercise in critical thinking and understanding what science is, and every time you try to "prove" the Round Earth model you're failing that exercise.

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lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Isn't using a plane/helicopter easier and safer ?

Spamalot
Spamalot

He did. He still gets really fucked up.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Not on a commercial jet you cant

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

That's actually pretty impressive, a guy builds steam powered rocket in his garage, flies 1800 feet up and managed not to kill himself in the process. Being flatearther and thinking he could use this to prove flat Earth is retarded, but building a working rocket is pretty impressive. Also, the very fact that he doesn't want to base his flat-earth view solely on YouTube videos which don't use methods more sophisticated than hs trig, but wants to actually see the flatness of the Earth means this guy deserves some respect, unlike all the other cranks

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

this guy deserves some respect
As much as the Heaven's Gate retards did for their dedication I guess. This retard almost got himself killed barely trying to prove his dumb point.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Man willing to die for his ideas, man risking his life for a greater good, these are the things that call for respect.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Not if you're a fucking dummy with a barely thought out plan to attempt proving a barely though out idea. These people are normally called fools, and deserve either pity or contempt, depending on your choice.

This guy is a stupid asshole and it's a shame he didn't die in his Ed, Edd & Eddy junkyard rocket.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Shut the fuck up this is amazing

Supergrass
Supergrass

youtube.com/watch?v=JgY8zNZ35uw

This guy's series is pretty good at ridiculing this horseshit "theory".

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Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

cool image
if I have a boner does that scientifically mean im hetero?

MPmaster
MPmaster

posts anime weab garbage with spines that can twist 90 degrees in the middle
calls other people retarded

cum2soon
cum2soon

10/10 argument

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Poker_Star
Poker_Star

shoulders and butt in near perfect alignment
hahaha got 'em!

you're retarded and you jerk off to retarded deviantart anatomy, sad

Methshot
Methshot

What are you even babbling about, who even cares about the drawing? Talk about the video instead, stupid!

But I know you won't because you can't, so you're already deflecting onto pointless things like a good conspiratard.

Emberfire
Emberfire

eh. "not kill himself" is relative here. every time he does this he has to be carted off by paramedics and he's in bed for a week

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

how insecure can you be about being this attracted to a drawing

FastChef
FastChef

this graphic doesn't prove anything.

Ask how I know you did not understand the graphic.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I heard he just co-opted the flat earther belief to get donations.

Bidwell
Bidwell

thats essentially what he pleaded during his child custody legalities 'he is only a performance artist and is playing a character'
Actually, that's incorrect. "Performance artist" just means that someone in conveying their presentation in an informal manner. A guy giving his opinion on a movie while wearing a Muppet costume is a performance artist, but that doesn't necessarily dictate the sincerity of his review.

massdebater
massdebater

list a bunch of shit that has nothing to do with the subject matter at hand "flat earth theory"

Please, drool somewhere else.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Not really.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

This. Amateur rocketry has been a thing since forever and people have been building way more impressive rockets than this dummy. Only difference is none of them are stupid enough to actually man one of those things, though I think Copenhagen Suborbitals is still working on their manned suborbital rocket.

JunkTop
JunkTop

curves on a fish eye lens should be greater at the sides, less near the middle
the curve of the earth is greater than the panels
Guess you just disproved yourself.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

spinning at 1000mph
Imagine a hammer thrower spinning at one revolution every 24 hours. We are the hammer. He lets go. What happens?

Those other speeds are even less relevant.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

The pic in post you are responding to is about the change in apparent orientation of the moon at the same time from different observers, not the change in apparent coverage of the moon's shadow. The same question can be asked a out a full moon with no visible shadow as the orientation of the craters on the moon will also change based on who is observing at the same time on any given day.

WebTool
WebTool

The main reason the Flat Earth model has gained so much traction lately is because of retards who post fish-eyed images of the horizon or stuff from space probes to try and rubbish it.
As far as I've seen, those people don't exist. They're a figment of flat earther's imaginations, along with the super-navy that protects the great ice wall.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

along with the super-navy that protects the great ice wall.
And the fleet of weather balloons and drones that are making our "satellite" weather maps.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Better analogy: imagine a car with tires 8000 miles in diameter. 1000 mph would be pretty damn slow, since it would take an entire day for the wheels to make one rotation.

farquit
farquit

Actually really intelligent people are more susceptible to delusion because they can convince themselves of anything by providing a rigorous self-consistent logical basis for those beliefs (problem is its not based on reality). That's probably why schizophrenia is correlated with intelligence to quite a significant degree.

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hairygrape
hairygrape

The only thing dumber than an idiot is a smart idiot.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

I leave this board for 5 minutes and you guys are seriously arguing about whether or not the earth is flat....

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

buoyancy is a hoax too.

cum2soon
cum2soon

that's been the main purpose of Veeky Forums since its inception though

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Sounds more like an ego problem than an intelligence problem.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Smart people can believe stupid things.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Indeed, but his intelligence allows him to protect his ego in the wake of criticism.

MPmaster
MPmaster

list a bunch of shit that has nothing to do with the subject matter at hand "flat earth theory"
Topic we replied to was about pervasive anti-science. Flat earth is a psyop and not even worth discussing because you have to be clinically retarded or paid shill to advocate for it.

Lunatick
Lunatick

He is a genius, but not for the reason you think. Before he was a flat earther, his hobby was making his own rockets. He tried to raise 5k for his next version but didn't get it...until he marketed to flat earthers. They jumped on the idea, and funded him to the tune of 20k. He has since spent their money on his hobby of building rockets, and all he has to do is pay some lip service to some stupid group on the internet.

Truly one of the great masterminds of our times.

Inmate
Inmate

rocket
simplest device possible

hairygrape
hairygrape

It is.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Damn you're right. BASED space cowboy

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

I'm pretty sure the pulley is a simpler device strictly speaking

Nojokur
Nojokur

t. rocketman

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

T. brainlet

Go build a rocket you can sit and and launch yourself into the sky then survive. Report back at how easy it was to do.

Spamalot
Spamalot

You know amateur rocketry is a real thing, do you?

farquit
farquit

That's just plug and play with store bought parts, and isn't anything special.

WebTool
WebTool

I think you misunderstand what was being said in if you are the one who wrote

The only thing being controlled here is via social media on the internet which has nothing to do with owning mainstream media, corps, education systems, etc. All they have to do is post an idea to chum the waters then bolster that idea in those people who bite. It ripples out from there very easily, regardless of the idea or how fucktarded it is.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Yeah, and usually it doesn't involve being IN the rocket.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

do you know how old greeks proofed it. on the other side of the equator star constellations are upside down, the moon too. explain this without a spherical earth.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Some of them believe the sky is a lenticular displau that can project different images to different people

farquit
farquit

i can't believe this bullshit
so the conspiracy began thousands of years ago? these guys are complete morons

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Yes, because that's dumb. Lifting your heavy stupid ass means the rocket will have fuck all delta-v, while most amateur strive to have a rocket with less and less dead weight to be faster and reach higher. Not turning it into a dangerous theme-park ride flying less than 600m high (literally take the elevator to the top of the Shanghai Tower, or 1WTC if you'd settle for less).

MUH ATMOSPHERIC DISTORTION
There, I explained it.

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askme
askme

Its a simple google search away, you mong

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Hello there mr. round earth shill.
You sound exactly like the people who critiqued Wright brothers for their near suicidal project to prove that a man can indeed fly.
Or basically any naysayer in any point of history when others were out there trying to go beyond what were considered the limits of humanity.

It's that attitude like yours that is the actual enemy of advancement, not the flat-earthers.

Evilember
Evilember

Being contrarian is likely unrelated to intelligence but personality trait

WebTool
WebTool

I chuckled.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

We shouldn’t let the guy’s absurd metaphysical beliefs downplay his achievements. He did more than I ever will.

whereismyname
whereismyname

It's probably hard if you know so little you are still a flat earther

Illusionz
Illusionz

so by your logic ISIS are valiant men worthy of respect

idiot

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

falling this hard for bait

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Greater good isn't the same for everyone. Islamic terrorists may be heroes to some people.

girlDog
girlDog

idiot

5mileys
5mileys

Planes are part of the conspiracy and can't be trusted

happy_sad
happy_sad

Newton thought he could turn base metals into gold and also thought there was a secret code in the Bible, a la Dan Brown. Linus Pauling thought vitamin C cured cancer. Smart people can still believe some stupid shit.

Bidwell
Bidwell

amazingly retarded

massdebater
massdebater

I’m not sure he doesn’t believe it. Part of the reason his ex-wife sued for custody was that their kids started spouting the same bullshit he does. Maybe he started it as a scam, but I think if you stare into that abyss for too long it stares back.

TreeEater
TreeEater

/x/-tier bullshit

Fuck you. There are some real stuff on /x/. Alex Jones only does fake stuff so nobody believes real conspiracies when they hear them.

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Supergrass
Supergrass

Engineered conspiracy lols

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Planes have HD digital displays made by NASA mounted on the windows to make you think the earth is round.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

lmao def a madman

Skullbone
Skullbone

wow, you are truly, an idiot

SniperGod
SniperGod

this, truer than anything said about the matter
la creatura runs the msm and the science "news" too, which fills the media sphere, err... media circle with lies

SniperWish
SniperWish

nice conspiracy theory...

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

very good point, a scientific answer
now go find a flat spaceship surface and do a real take on the matter
A+ for the BUST

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I have to say it is no wonder many believe in the flat earth, as we see here 3 retarded assholes responded with derision and personal attacks, instead of acknowledging the good point made.

The truth is obvious - most of the jackasses screaming the earth is round don't have a scientific analysis or any real points to help the purported "clueless" flat earthers.

My idea that retards could play fair at /sci is easily the most far out theory and purely conspiratorial in nature.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

see
As a photographer I am familiar with how lenses work. While I can agree to the curve being exaggerated by the wide angle lenses, the lenses distort in predictable ways.
The problem with flat earthers is that they prove it is a wide angle lens but then attribute all of the curvature to that wide angle lens, even when the supporting elements in the photo show that all of the curvature can't be explained by the wide angle lens.

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